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I just think the whole idea of declaring war on terrorism is pointless, you're never going to stamp it out by force, killing Bin Laden will not end this. Now his followers will be hell bent on revenge and more US troops will die. We shouldn't continue to throw people into the meat grinder we should just concentrate on expanding homeland security and leave the middle east to its own devices, they hate us!

In an ideal world we would fight terrorism by stamping out poverty, but whatever that's just wishful thinking, I'm only giving my opinion I don't claim to have all the answers.


You know what happened after Sev and Rico (true niggas) ran up on Vissari (gay nigga) in Killzone 2? Killzone 3. Dwell on dat.

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True. Alkida(how ever the hell you spell that) is still out there. But the operation wasn't pointless especially since there was no casualties. killing there leader was a pretty big accomplishment in my opinion. Yes i'm aware that his successor is still out there. And yes, i'm aware that this is far from over.

And to your Kill Zone thing. Vissari still needed to be killed. Sure the Helghast won't fall over night, but im sure they will fall none the less. Considering the fact that is there last game.
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Well they sure milked that for all it was worth.
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The government is trying to draw our attention away from our real problems, good job Barrack Hussein...
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You know what happened after Sev and Rico (true niggas) ran up on Vissari (gay nigga) in Killzone 2? Killzone 3. Dwell on dat.
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exactly *looks around* what? He's a Trey hater!

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The symbolic importance: that perseverance against slim odds can triumph (not to be confused with "it was worth it," which I'd wager would be a mischaracterization of folks' celebratory reaction).

The practical importance: no more worrying about Trump (not to be confused with "no more worrying about terrorism," which I also wager would likewise be a mischaracterization).
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Well goodbye people... Nice knowing yea. The terrorists actually threatened to unleash atomic bomb hell on europe if Bin Laden die.
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I have merged the duplicate thread into this one - please disregard any double posts prior to this.

As for the news. I'm a little shell-shocked that we're celebrating murdering someone. The manner in which it has been reported by the media too, is rather confronting and disappointing.

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Personally Im rather disappointed... I can understand giving him jailtime and stuff... But murdering one man solves nothing. I bet Osama Bin Laden was nothing but a good leader to those people. Unfortunately people are not like wolves and they dont run off when their leader is dead. They either had a strong bond to him or at least had great respect for him and now they will most likely avenge him.

But still... Byebye everyone. Living was fun.
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To my knowledge, no entity outside of a limited number of governments have access to atomic weapons.

That being said, fuck yeah Australia!

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We shouldn't continue to throw people into the meat grinder we should just concentrate on expanding homeland security and leave the middle east to its own devices, they hate us!
Sure the USA could withdraw their forces from various middle eastern countries, but why spoil their war on terror?
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Hmm, I wonder what the repercussions of this will be. Probably not good ones.

As some of you have said, although he deserved to be removed from power (nobody deserves to die IMO - And if you want to punish someone, there are worse punishments), killing this guy solves nothing and it wasn't worth the effort. He did the damage he was going to do 10 years ago and probably wasn't in a position to cause anything like it again. Perhaps it'll even aggravate problems and give the middle-east more reason to hate the western world. And yet everyone celebrates this guy's death like it's the best thing ever and the answer to all our problems.

This is the type of stupidity that makes me livid.

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But still... Byebye everyone. Living was fun.
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Well goodbye people... Nice knowing yea. The terrorists actually threatened to unleash atomic bomb hell on europe if Bin Laden die.
You think that if Al Queda had a nuke they wouldn't blow it up immediately?
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The practical importance: no more worrying about Trump (not to be confused with "no more worrying about terrorism," which I also wager would likewise be a mischaracterization).
What's snooker got to do with this? (For those who don't know, "Judd Trump" is the name of a snooker player who has been on TV very recently)

As for why Osama needed to be killed, technically it was a "kill or capture" mission. There was a forty-minute gunfight before Osama was neutralized... so I assume he didn't want to go quietly.
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Everybody deserves to die; that's an intrinsic aspect of mortality. It's that some people don't deserve to delight in the gifts of life. To solve that end, I'd say getting killed in a firefight is a hell of a lot more merciful/honorable of a way to go out than withering away in a cell somewhere for years to come.

I know it can seem that everyone is celebrating in a manner akin to an all-our-problems-are-solved kind of reaction... but, I really don't think most people are so naive as to think that that sort of nonsense (thinking that the U.S. gives a bajillion shits about Middle Eastern oil is a different story, though). It's just one very, very symbolic problem (of our own well-known creation) solved. Being able to take out one specific jihadist hiding in the middle of bumfuck nowhere is pretty damned impressive, not to mention that being able to ask "was it worth it?" is a much more pleasant question than "is it possible?".

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Well goodbye people... Nice knowing yea. The terrorists actually threatened to unleash atomic bomb hell on europe if Bin Laden die.
So you're saying that the terrorist actually have a nuke, an ICBM to deliver it, the fuel to fire it, the facility to fire and target it and all that hidden well enough for the US to NOT find it even after their extensive search that turned up nothing?

Well.... fuck.
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So you're saying that the terrorist actually have a nuke, an ICBM to deliver it, the fuel to fire it, the facility to fire and target it and all that hidden well enough for the US to NOT find it even after their extensive search that turned up nothing?

Well.... fuck.
It's called Iran.

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I know it can seem that everyone is celebrating in a manner akin to an all-our-problems-are-solved kind of reaction... but, I really don't think most people are so naive as to think that that sort of nonsense (thinking that the U.S. gives a bajillion shits about Middle Eastern oil is a different story, though).
Given that oil is a limited (and unfortunately important) resource and the existing investements by US oil corporations I'd say they do care about middle eastern oil.

At the moment for example the USA owes some money to the Libyan government for all the oil they purchased previously. Rather than pay the amount owing they decided to go for a slightly different payment plan (funding & arming a few local dissidents to try to destabalize the local government and then to directly help overthrow the government as the "heroes"). You may have heard about it
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Some of you take me a bit too seriously, I suspect. But it's understandable as I do have inside information on whether Al-queda has nukes or not. Super-true story. Really.

Anyway Yea... Bin Laden... He was a champ. He will be missed.


You know... Lets pretend they do have nukes so I can stay with Strike Witch
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Given that oil is a limited (and unfortunately important) resource and the existing investements by US oil corporations I'd say they do care about middle eastern oil.

At the moment for example the USA owes some money to the Libyan government for all the oil they purchased previously. Rather than pay the amount owing they decided to go for a slightly different payment plan (funding & arming a few local dissidents to try to destabalize the local government and then to directly help overthrow the government as the "heroes"). You may have heard about it
"Libyan government" is an oxymoron, things as they are. And sure, oil is a necessary and limited resource, but realistically speaking... what's the likelihood of the run-out-of-oil-by-such-and-such-date happening before viable alternative fuel/production/energy reach a large enough scale to comfortably sustain ourselves? If it's not the private market saving the day, than it'll be government funded research that makes the breakthrough. After all, there's *HUGE* international profit incentive for whoever can significantly help advance that area. Greedy ol' American loves its black gold, but it also loves its money, and science is a hell of a lot more fiscally efficient way to save the day than overseas wars. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out, just a halfway decent economically cognizant politician.
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