Abortion

UnknownSlig · #1 06-14-2009, 11:24 AM

Oh geez I've unleashed something by posting this on OWF

My stand on this nice little topic to all the people who want to ban it will always be, it's not your body to tell what to do with, its the persons choice to abort and not yours to make.

OddjobAbe · #2 06-14-2009, 11:30 AM

I have no real problem with it, but if it was me and Emily, I know we'd have a hard time deciding. That thing living in there will never be again - it deserves a chance, as if we were an unmeasurable unit of time out, it would not exist, and never would. At the same time, children are like leeches until they are old enough to support themselves, but suck up money instead of blood, and if someone isn't prepared to figure something out, then the easiest thing to do would be to get rid of it.

I could never have an abortion for two reasons:
My conscience and the fact that I'm a man.

Actually, I think I remember a discussion like this once, but I'm not sure. It may have just been one of DI's blogs. It would be interesting to see how my position has changed in a year.

MA · #3 06-14-2009, 11:33 AM

you copied my thread icon.
this topic has been done too many times.

i have no real stance on it, and hope i never have to in the future. its unfortunate that some people have to consider it.

used:) · #4 06-14-2009, 11:39 AM

Old topic. Overdone.

I like abortion and think it should be mandatory.

Mac Sirloin · #5 06-14-2009, 11:42 AM

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Old topic. Overdone.

I like abortion and think it should be mandatory.

KILL EVERY FETUS

NO MORE KIDS

KILL EVERY FETUS

OF CHILDREN WE'LL BE RID

abe is now! · #6 06-14-2009, 11:46 AM

I think that young girls who want to have sex and who are jinxed because their boyfriend's preservative is holed can miscarry.

Havoc · #7 06-14-2009, 12:05 PM

Dead babiez for the yay!

Anyone telling you what you can and can't do with something growing inside of you should be shot on sight. That's my stance on it.

abe is now! · #8 06-14-2009, 12:20 PM

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Dead babiez for the yay!

Anyone telling you what you can and can't do with something growing inside of you should be shot on sight. That's my stance on it.

I agree, being parent nor adult... it's a pain in the ars!

Anonyman! · #9 06-14-2009, 12:47 PM

What.

In other news, I'm still glad I don't have a vagina.

moxco · #10 06-14-2009, 12:54 PM

I think abortions should only be legal if the mother has permission from a doctor because giving birth may medically affect her.

If pregnant women do not want to be a parent she could simply put her baby up for adoption.

OddjobAbe · #11 06-14-2009, 12:56 PM

Not as easy as that. What if she grows attached to the baby? It has happened.

used:) · #12 06-14-2009, 01:06 PM

There's the physical and emotional toll of carrying and giving birth to the child as well. Plus, adoption doesn't necessarily mean it will find a family.

UnknownSlig · #13 06-14-2009, 01:14 PM

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What.

In other news, I'm still glad I don't have a vagina.

I'm glad I do

And I also believe too that adoption is not a good excuse to ban abortion. I'm just getting sick of people thinking they have the right to control what other people should or shouldn't do, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

Slog Bait · #14 06-14-2009, 01:44 PM

I have nothing against abortion.

However, if abortion suddenly becomes this massive trend where EVERYONE is doing it, I might have a few objections.

Wings of Fire · #15 06-14-2009, 01:48 PM

There is NEVER a good enough reason for an abortion under normal circumstances, in my opinion these people knew the chances when they had sex and are killing a growing life inside them simply for their own luxuries to continue.

That being said, abortion should be legal. Regardless of how moralistically vehement I find it.

Mac Sirloin · #16 06-14-2009, 02:12 PM

I'm assuming "The baby is going to die within two weeks of being born" is an abnormal circumstance.

Wings of Fire · #17 06-14-2009, 02:16 PM

I would hope so

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***Alcar*** · #18 06-14-2009, 02:47 PM

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There is NEVER a good enough reason for an abortion under normal circumstances, in my opinion these people knew the chances when they had sex and are killing a growing life inside them simply for their own luxuries to continue.

That being said, abortion should be legal. Regardless of how moralistically vehement I find it.

Morals aside, what about the issue of women's choice?

Alcar...

UnknownSlig · #19 06-14-2009, 03:16 PM

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Morals aside, what about the issue of women's choice?

Alcar...

I don't care if you think the baby inside is a mass of cells or a living being all I care about is keeping it the persons own choice to abort or not. Nobody else should be allowed to make that choice for them because they find it morally wrong.

It's not as if we need more humans on the planet right now anyway....

Wings of Fire · #20 06-14-2009, 03:41 PM

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Morals aside, what about the issue of women's choice?

Alcar...

My gut response to that is that she chose to have sex, however this is the reason I argue for its legality,

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I don't care if you think the baby inside is a mass of cells or a living being all I care about is keeping it the persons own choice to abort or not. Nobody else should be allowed to make that choice for them because they find it morally wrong.

Obviously not, but can you justify murdering a potential human being for your personal freedom?

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It's not as if we need more humans on the planet right now anyway....

True, but that's hardly ethically the point.

Anonyman! · #21 06-14-2009, 04:12 PM

SUCK EM OUT
MASH EM UP
ABORTION
ABORTION
PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE
SOCIAL PARIAH
ABORTION
ABORTION

Pilot · #22 06-14-2009, 05:36 PM

This thread needs to be aborted.

A subject like this is touchy because people typically react with their emotions YOU MURDERERS or with cold clinical unfeeling analysis "It's the woman's fault". This issue BEGS for anything but polarized points of view!

There is no one answer that will solve this, and as long as folks are looking for that 'one answer' the argument will never end.

Anonyman! · #23 06-14-2009, 06:13 PM

I've never met anyone in this situation, so I don't feel like I can meaningfully contribute.

***Nate*** · #24 06-14-2009, 06:46 PM

I feel rather uncomfortable concept of abortion, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus is already looks like a baby and can move on its own accord. In a perfect world, contraceptives would be 100% effective and people would be well-educated in their use. Since we don't live in a perfect world, we need abortion as the last chance Plan B.

I loathe pro-lifers, not because of their views but because they're trying to force their religion on everyone else. It's no different to if I lobbied the government to criminalise non-kosher food or forced women to wear hijabs.

Anonyman! · #25 06-14-2009, 06:47 PM

Kosher food is good.

Wings of Fire · #26 06-14-2009, 07:10 PM

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I feel rather uncomfortable concept of abortion, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus is already looks like a baby and can move on its own accord. In a perfect world, contraceptives would be 100% effective and people would be well-educated in their use. Since we don't live in a perfect world, we need abortion as the last chance Plan B.

The way I see it is Potential Life = Life. The only difference is time.

Pilot · #27 06-14-2009, 07:41 PM

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I feel rather uncomfortable concept of abortion, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus is already looks like a baby and can move on its own accord. In a perfect world, contraceptives would be 100% effective and people would be well-educated in their use. Since we don't live in a perfect world, we need abortion as the last chance Plan B.

I loathe pro-lifers, not because of their views but because they're trying to force their religion on everyone else. It's no different to if I lobbied the government to criminalise non-kosher food or forced women to wear hijabs.

I'm tending to align with this. There has to be a compromise.

***Alcar*** · #28 06-14-2009, 08:16 PM

I believe New South Wales has it fairly right in the way of law. We allow abortions up until the 18-20th week of pregnancy, and they can be clandestinely arranged directly through clinics.

I am a staunch supporter of a woman's choice to abort - based on the stage of development present in the fetus, as the charge of murder must be a viable law at some stage. Obviously this is a matter of contention between many, many different parties.

Alcar...

***Nate*** · #29 06-14-2009, 08:25 PM

Victoria recently legalised it up to 22 weeks, which I feel is way too far. Babies have survived being born at 24 weeks (with intensive care, admittedly). I figure there's a certain point at which any woman must be aware she's pregnant, is beginning to look pregnant and has had some time to think about it and up to that point, it should be legal. I don't know exactly what point that is, but it's well before the halfway point of pregnancy (which is 20 weeks).

moxco · #30 06-14-2009, 09:43 PM

WoF is the only person here who is talking sense. Why should a growing life be terminated just because the mother/father was lazy with contraception? A fetus can feel and think after only a couple of weeks after conception.

It sucks because in Queensland abortions are covered by Medicare (government health insurance) so basically you can destroy a baby whenever you want for free.