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08-13-2003, 11:30 AM
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Experiencing Technical Difficulties

And so it happens once again, my hard drive has once again managed to attract many virii. It is affecting all programs, including Internet Explorer. Because of this, using Internet Explorer is not worth it.

I might not be here for a while, depending on whether or not I figure this out. I'm pretty sure I know what is wrong, but it seems it is a service file that has become corrupted.

In case anything MAJOR happens, some of you would have no doubt seen last weekend that the forums were closed while I backed them up. The forums are backed up fully, bar the attachments table.

Hopefully everything will be sorted out soon. But I can't be sure.

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08-13-2003, 11:39 AM
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Since Alcars gonna maybe be Absent.

I have taken up the role of Forum Law Enforcer, i will be going around rading houses to see if any one hiding items that could damage the forum.... E.G Electric light bulbs.

If i see anyone around with Electric Light Bulbs, i will kill them straight away with my batman powers... Die...

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08-14-2003, 03:17 AM
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Alcar, it's not Virii, it's Viruses.

And you probably only have one. And it is more likely a worm by the sound of it.

If it's a virus, then it should be really simple to remove. Just a matter of finding the file in the process list. But if the virus is cunning, then it will most likely be hiding in the memory. In which case, it's a job for McAffee.

Run a virus scan, then quarantine it. McAffee will then attempt to learn what the virus does, then it will look for damage matching the virus. If all goes well, then it should be able to undo the worm damage.

But if it isn't a worm, then it will be a virus that is causing programs to crash. Usually these viruses work within the system idle process, which fills the empty space in the CPU. It will take up the empty space, forcing CPU usage right up to 100%, meaning that no other programs ever get a chance to use it. It will constantly reset itself to run in "real time" so that it overrides the windows processor buffer dump.

For a virus to be able to do all of the above, it needs to have a file on the computer that initialises the process. To discover what this file is, you will need to start up the computer, and the moment windows XP loads, you will need to press CTRL+ALT+DEL and check out the process list. You should find a program in the list of processes with a suspicious name. Either that or it is using up alot of memory.

Either way, you'll find it.

Viruses are commonly mistaken for:

Trojans,
Trojans come in many forms, but mostly arrive disguised in programs, and start doing all sorts of nasty things, like erasing buffers, or even shutting down your PC!

Worms,
A kind of virus, the worm eats information, usually in system kernels or DLL files. The worst kinds are the ones that enter system buffers, disallowing the use of keyboards, mice, cdplayers and word processors.

Viruses are:

A virus is a program that takes up system resources. They'll fill up buffers, CPU's and take up all available memory. Effectively clogging the works of the computer until it grinds to a halt and crashes.

Viruses can be given to you by:

Downloading FILES. Viruses do not come in programs, programs merely load the virus, or give the virus access to the CPU and memory. It is a common misconception that completely blank floppy disks can contain virus infections. This is NOT true. A blank floppy disk can't contain a virus, simply because a virus is a file. Viruses can also come in the form of a program that uses up all the memory and CPU of a computer, but these are easily detected due to their open presence in the windows system.

You are more likely to catch:

You are more likely to catch a worm. A worm isn't an active file or program, it is actually just a chain reaction started by an exploited bug in a program. The chain reaction causes information to be randomly deleted. It is a bit like a domino effect. The falling dominos aren't actually the culprit, it's the finger that started it.

Hope this helps.
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08-14-2003, 07:50 AM
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It was a worm, and I've delt with it. I hope...

The reason I created a thread, was that usually my hard drive needs to be totally replaced, which can take days.

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08-14-2003, 07:54 AM
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Suprise suprise, right again!

My analasis skills truely are worthy.

Well, if you ever have any other problems like this again, don't hesitate to drop me a line and I'll give you some advice.

But you're obviously smart enough to have the right software to deal with it anyway.

So, nevermind.
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08-14-2003, 02:20 PM
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Dude's there's still a problem with the automail system, and with any "Important" threds. Don't celebrate too soon
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08-14-2003, 09:11 PM
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No there isn't, they work just fine from where I sit.
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I just figured that it maybe had something to do with that stupid worm thing that rampaged around. Whatever.
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08-17-2003, 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by Adder
Dude's there's still a problem with the automail system, and with any "Important" threds. Don't celebrate too soon
He was meaning his own computer, not the OWF server!

There will ALWAYS be a problem w/ the automail system for some people unless we change servers. I strongly doubt our host will fix it for us. I did think I answered that somewhere else, unless I'm replying to an old post.

What's the problem w/ the important threads though?

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