Python vs Java and Web Development

***Alcar*** · #1 06-06-2011, 07:10 AM

MOD EDIT: This thread split off from this one here.

At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to learn Python, or Java. So difficult!

Alcar...

RoryF · #2 06-06-2011, 07:15 AM

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PHP5.3 was sweet, and PHP5.4 has some more goodies coming that I've been dying for

Like what?

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At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to learn Python, or Java. So difficult!

Java would probably be better I think, it's quite useful for certain apps.

***Alcar*** · #3 06-06-2011, 07:20 AM

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Like what?

Specifically I am looking forward to array de-referencing, instance-method-calling, traits, and destroying magic quotes with a rusty knife. There are plenty more though that you can keep up with here and here.

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Java would probably be better I think, it's quite useful for certain apps.

Exactly why I am slightly leaning towards Java.

Alcar...

STM · #4 06-06-2011, 07:21 AM

Java is more prevalent than Python these days and helps more for design and gaming, I learnt a little bit of Java and Python, syntactically Java is easier to learn as well.

***Alcar*** · #5 06-06-2011, 07:22 AM

Multiple inheritance scares me.

Alcar...

STM · #6 06-06-2011, 07:24 AM

Multiple inheritance, try learning multiple languages. So very confusing, fortunately I have the uncanny ability to forget things in minutes if need be.

RoryF · #7 06-06-2011, 07:26 AM

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Multiple inheritance, try learning multiple languages. So very confusing, fortunately I have the uncanny ability to forget things in minutes if need be.

I only tend to learn one at a time, it may take longer but it's way easier than juggling two or more.

STM · #8 06-06-2011, 07:27 AM

I only want to learn C++ for work purposes.

***Wil*** · #9 06-06-2011, 08:19 AM

Hey Alcar, how much do you charge for freelance work? No jokes, please.

JennyGenesis · #10 06-06-2011, 09:31 AM

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Any particular reason you hate it?

As silly as this sounds I was learning in school. That was probably just something stupid and not in depth since it was only for school. I just couldn't do it and I kept getting very frustrated with it. We were stuck with Macromedia Dreamweaver which is the biggest piece of shit in the world. I think it was my horrid experience with it in school is the reason I hate it and maybe I shouldn't base my judgement upon that because obviously the school is only teaching it as a small part of the education and not a full on course dedicated to it so they probably didn't give a toss hence why we were stuck with shitty software.

Manco · #11 06-06-2011, 10:43 AM

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We were stuck with Macromedia Dreamweaver which is the biggest piece of shit in the world.

In my web design college course, we had to work with Adobe GoLive CS2.

JennyGenesis · #12 06-06-2011, 11:15 AM

Anything Adobe must be good.

RoryF · #13 06-06-2011, 11:21 AM

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Anything Adobe must be good.

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We were stuck with Macromedia Dreamweaver which is the biggest piece of shit in the world..

CONTRADICTION!

Manco · #14 06-06-2011, 11:26 AM

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Anything Adobe must be good.

There's a reason it was discontinued.

RoryF · #15 06-06-2011, 11:27 AM

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There's a reason it was discontinued.

I'm guessing it wasn't very good then.

JennyGenesis · #16 06-06-2011, 11:47 AM

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There's a reason it was discontinued.

Oh. Didn't know it was discontinued. My experience with Adobe has always been good so I only assumed it was a good piece of software.

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CONTRADICTION!!!!!!!

Is it? How?

RoryF · #17 06-06-2011, 11:57 AM

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Is it? How?

You said Dreamweaver was bad and said Adobe products are all good.
Dreamweaver is by Adobe.

Havoc · #18 06-06-2011, 01:00 PM

It wasn't always Adobe, I think.

Manco · #19 06-06-2011, 01:04 PM

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http://www.oddworldforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12665&stc=1&d=1307390180
You said Dreamweaver was bad and said Adobe products are all good.
Dreamweaver is by Adobe.

I like how that image is on the CS5.5 page, yet the Adobe icons in the dock are obviously CS4 apps.

JennyGenesis · #20 06-06-2011, 01:52 PM

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It wasn't always Adobe, I think.

I can only assume that Macromedia was bought out by Adobe or something because I'm quite sure Macromedia was it's own company once.

***Alcar*** · #21 06-06-2011, 04:05 PM

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Hey Alcar, how much do you charge for freelance work? No jokes, please.

Mates rates down at $30/hr, others all the way up to about $50-60/hr.

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We were stuck with Macromedia Dreamweaver

Real developers use notepad

Alcar...

***Nate*** · #22 06-06-2011, 07:51 PM

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At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to learn Python, or Java. So difficult!

Alcar...

Java's good in that if you know how to program it, you can easily jump to any other programming language. On the other hand, if you're trying to add skills to your resume, go for Python. Every coder out there can do Java; it's usually the first language taught at university.

Also, if you want a language for scripting, my gut impression is that Python will be more useful than Enterprise Java. That said, I've never touched Python, so I'm working on second hand knowledge.

RoryF · #23 06-07-2011, 07:18 AM

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Real developers use notepad

I used that to make the stupid website and the first one I made ages ago, I've probably still got it somewhere...

Now I use Notepad++ a bit. I don't do much web design as I have no need to.

OANST · #24 06-07-2011, 11:45 AM

I thought this thread was about Anthony Weiner.

***Alcar*** · #25 06-07-2011, 04:59 PM

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Now I use Notepad++ a bit. I don't do much web design as I have no need to.

I exaggerated - I too use Notepad++. T'is the bomb.

Alcar...