Soulstorm's an Epic Exclusive

Varrok · #1 08-19-2019, 02:41 PM

Let's celebrate!

SlashClaw · #2 08-19-2019, 04:17 PM

the only response i have that won't get me banned
https://youtu.be/H9W5GjEYKj8?t=12

Phoetux · #3 08-19-2019, 04:22 PM

It's been fun guys

Nepsotic · #4 08-19-2019, 06:36 PM

Oddworld Inhabitants is literally just a money laundering scheme at this point. I'm glad our reward as fans is that we finally get to suck that corporate dick that Lorne has been warning us about for all these years.

Littleleeroy · #5 08-21-2019, 04:45 AM

It's not like they have had help from a major corporation before.. *cough* EA *cough*

STM · #6 08-22-2019, 06:09 AM

A few people on here have suggested over the years that I am not critical enough of OWI, and that perhaps I look at the actions of the company through rose tinted glasses too often. Whilst I understand that OWI needs more funding to finish Soulstorm, this is an exceedingly disappointing development. I won't be playing the game on the PC and even I'm sitting here wondering what possessed this move, it seems to be so far detached from the company's ethos.

Auriel · #7 08-22-2019, 08:16 AM

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Oddworld Inhabitants is literally just a money laundering scheme at this point. I'm glad our reward as fans is that we finally get to suck that corporate dick that Lorne has been warning us about for all these years.

or you could you know
buy the console version that will be released simultaneously with the pc one

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It's not like they have had help from a major corporation before.. *cough* EA *cough*

*laughs in SoBe*
anyway, while this is disappointing, i feel like some of you are being too melodramatic.
oddworld was never meant to be a political statement about how all corporations are evil.

Varrok · #8 08-22-2019, 10:17 AM

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oddworld was never meant to be a political statement about how all corporations are evil.

I'm pretty sure the antagonists of every single main Oddworld game (+ Stranger's Wrath) were undoubtedly corporate.

Oddipus · #9 08-22-2019, 11:30 AM

Owi keeps making those strange decisions. Like the ones already mentioned, but also the switch to Xbox. And yet, their games always find a way into my home. Either invest in a new console or stream account or whatever, or wait until the exclusivity period is over.

Do they do this on purpose, or are they some sort of naive mudokons themselves? I do believe Lorne really tries to make a great game. Bummer that the proces always seems to be with a lot of bends, hurdles, a bit of selling out, and upsetting a fan or two.

Actually I don't mind...

MA · #10 08-23-2019, 11:54 AM

yeah i dislike any type of exclusivity. seems like a sort of 'elitist' thing to do, and that bugs me.

Auriel · #11 09-01-2019, 04:47 AM

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I'm pretty sure the antagonists of every single main Oddworld game (+ Stranger's Wrath) were undoubtedly corporate.

That doesn't make OWI as a developer any more anti-corporate any more than having an evil doctor as the villain of the Crash games makes Naughty Dog anti-vax.
Also keep in mind that we've seen very little of the full story of the Quintology so far, and OWI have hinted many times that it's nowhere near as simple as "native good, industrial bad".
Anyway I'm not saying this is a good move from OWI at all, and it's totally understandable if you're disappointed, just certain people are blowing it out of proportion.

Havoc · #12 09-02-2019, 01:45 AM

Not in the mood to rehash my ranting from Discord so...

Fuck OWI.

Nepsotic · #13 09-02-2019, 10:27 PM

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or you could you know
buy the console version that will be released simultaneously with the pc one

Hilarious that you would assume that I'd "buy" anything from OWI again. "Hey just buy this significantly downgraded version for the same price, you can still fund shitty business practices even if you don't want to directly!"

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oddworld was never meant to be a political statement about how all corporations are evil.

Yes it literally is, and that simplistic bullshit was Lorne's MO for two decades

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That doesn't make OWI as a developer any more anti-corporate any more than having an evil doctor as the villain of the Crash games makes Naughty Dog anti-vax.

This is a very borked metaphor. Having an evil doctor as the villain doesn't really have anything to do with vaccines at all.
This would be a much more apt analogy if the CEO of Naughty Dog was an anti-vaxxer who regularly has vaccinations and has distributed his game through a vaccination company.

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Also keep in mind that we've seen very little of the full story of the Quintology so far,

There never was a full story

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and OWI have hinted many times that it's nowhere near as simple as "native good, industrial bad".

Hannah + Barbera have hinted many times that it's nowhere near as simple as "jerry good" and "Tom bad".

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just certain people are blowing it out of proportion.

I wonder who that could be?

Holy Sock · #14 09-04-2019, 04:05 PM

I mean Lorne's not really anti-capitalism if you listen to interviews with him. Particularly as he plays the entertainment product game. Perhaps he doesn't buy into Epic Game Store fraud/immoral practices/spyware stuff or a lot of the anti-Epic rhetoric? I mean he went Microsoft exclusive, put SoBe in his game, promoted other indies in NnT. Oddworld puts a light on how corporations and excessive greed is literally destroying and exploiting our planet and its indigenous populations for the sake of pure profit. I don't think whatever anti-consumer story you wanna ring outta the Epic debate really touches that. Seems like small potatoes crap and clearly Lorne isn't into it that much.

I mean, I guess? fuck I dunno the guy.

EDIT: Also don't yell at me Nep or say I'm wrong. Or anyone else. I don't want you to.

kjjcarpenter · #15 09-05-2019, 08:17 PM

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I mean Lorne's not really anti-capitalism if you listen to interviews with him. Particularly as he plays the entertainment product game. Perhaps he doesn't buy into Epic Game Store fraud/immoral practices/spyware stuff or a lot of the anti-Epic rhetoric? I mean he went Microsoft exclusive, put SoBe in his game, promoted other indies in NnT. Oddworld puts a light on how corporations and excessive greed is literally destroying and exploiting our planet and its indigenous populations for the sake of pure profit. I don't think whatever anti-consumer story you wanna ring outta the Epic debate really touches that. Seems like small potatoes crap and clearly Lorne isn't into it that much.

I mean, I guess? fuck I dunno the guy.

EDIT: Also don't yell at me Nep or say I'm wrong. Or anyone else. I don't want you to.

But you’re not wrong. As you say, Lanning was never anti-consumerism; he was anti-exploitation. Hence why the argument about the billboards in NNT being against the “Oddworld philosophy” was about as air-tight as a screen door with holes in it.

That being said, I trust Lanning about as far as I can throw him. He’s a great talker, but at the end of the day, he’s a businessman. Whether or not he’s lying through his teeth half the time, or is simply far too idealistic, I’ve accepted that he probably would have been better off becoming a politician than a storyteller.