Female Steef?

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #1 12-26-2010, 04:14 AM

I've had a snoop around but I don't recall female steef being mentioned anywhere...So, are there female steef? If there are, do they exist like the majority of oddworld creatures as queens of a large colony? I was hoping they'd be more abundant than that...(Well, before Sekto got ahold of them). Any info would be appreciated, but a total mystery would be more liberating to my creativity XD

ziggy · #2 12-26-2010, 04:42 AM

Yes there is a queen Steef. She's most often called the Queef.

***Wil*** · #3 12-26-2010, 04:44 AM

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I've had a snoop around but I don't recall female steef being mentioned anywhere...So, are there female steef? If there are, do they exist like the majority of oddworld creatures as queens of a large colony? I was hoping they'd be more abundant than that

Why? Do they do it for you?

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #4 12-26-2010, 04:45 AM

...Is that a joke...? I really hope it is..."Queef", I lol'd XD

Ew Max!!! I was going to make a character that was a female steef, but I didn't want people to go, "NO!!! U DOIN IT RONG!!! D:<"

Andrelvis · #5 12-26-2010, 04:56 AM

I think there would be female Steef, yes. All species that have "queens" in Oddworld that we know off are egg-laying, and Steef are mammals, which except for two varieties don't lay eggs, and have a relatively small quantity of offspring.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #6 12-26-2010, 04:59 AM

Cool! So now I can get started on my character! :3 What do you think a female steef would look like? I'm thinking straighter horns and a more slender physique...Perhaps more feline?

Also, are there any good references of what Stranger's legs would look like if he had the operation to get them joined together? (I think that's what the op was for...I hope I'm not completely wrong...XD)

***Wil*** · #7 12-26-2010, 06:06 AM

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I think there would be female Steef, yes. All species that have "queens" in Oddworld that we know off are egg-laying, and Steef are mammals, which except for two varieties don't lay eggs, and have a relatively small quantity of offspring.

Of all the Oddworld species we know are super species (only four, by the way), to the best of my memory only for one has it been mentioned whether the queens lay eggs or live young, and that's Mudokons. In addition, Glukkon and Mudokon queens have breasts - hundreds of them, in fact - so don't go saying they're not "mammals". Oddworld's tree of life isn't easily mapped onto our own.

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Cool! So now I can get started on my character! :3 What do you think a female steef would look like? I'm thinking straighter horns and a more slender physique...Perhaps more feline?

Udders.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #8 12-26-2010, 06:08 AM

Udders? That's not what I had in mind...XD The lower half doesn't really matter because she'll have cybernetic legs a little like slig pants...I'm not going to put HUGE BOOBS on her or anything...Maybe not even at all? I'll have to work a few designs out.

***Wil*** · #9 12-26-2010, 06:10 AM

If she has udders she won't need boobs.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #10 12-26-2010, 06:19 AM

Ah yes but if she did have udders I'd think she'd cover them up...They're technically boobs...

***Wil*** · #11 12-26-2010, 06:22 AM

I'm not saying you should show them.

Hulaabeo · #12 12-26-2010, 06:31 AM

They look centaur-like. So shouldn't their... udders.... be on her chest?

STM · #13 12-26-2010, 06:36 AM

And that folks, is why Lorne never made a female steef. Anywho steef is a manly name, should be steefette!

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #14 12-26-2010, 06:56 AM

I heard Staif being banted around...Or Staef? Steeph? XD She's proving real difficult to draw...All the reference pics have a really masculine face...DX

***Wil*** · #15 12-26-2010, 07:21 AM

Try giving her stilleto-heeled hooves.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #16 12-26-2010, 07:51 AM

Rofl...Actually, hmmm...We'll see...

EDIT: I love spore...It's kinda lazy to make it on there, but it gives me an idea ^_^

Obviously it's a bit derpy, but it has heel hooves!!!

Manco · #17 12-26-2010, 08:38 AM

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Of all the Oddworld species we know are super species (only four, by the way), to the best of my memory only for one has it been mentioned whether the queens lay eggs or live young, and that's Mudokons. In addition, Glukkon and Mudokon queens have breasts - hundreds of them, in fact - so don't go saying they're not "mammals". Oddworld's tree of life isn't easily mapped onto our own.

Does this apply to the species seen in Stranger's Wrath, though? Seems to me like Clakkerz, Grubbs and Outlaws had males and females similar to humans, so I assumed that carried over to Steef as well.

Also, Steff.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #18 12-26-2010, 08:45 AM

Steff...That sounds great! :3 Btw the picture only has two legs because of the aforementioned cyborginess.

***Wil*** · #19 12-26-2010, 11:11 AM

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Does this apply to the species seen in Stranger's Wrath, though? Seems to me like Clakkerz, Grubbs and Outlaws had males and females similar to humans, so I assumed that carried over to Steef as well.

Given that I was only describing four species—Mudokons, Glukkons, Sligs and Paramites—it can't possibly apply to the species in SW. Obviously Clakkerz and Grubbs have roughly equal numbers of males to female and we can presume their respective reproductive models are ostensibly the same as ours. Wolvarks mention their wives (in the singular

), which, taken as canon, means they form monogynous, and presumably monogamous, relationships, implying the same is true for them.

Outlaws, on the other hand, we only see one female of the species, their numbers appearing vastly male-dominated. When Nate asked Lorne if Outlaws were a super species (seventh comment of Nate’s down), Lorne couldn't remember. We could wonder why OWI went to all the trouble of making female Clakkerz and Grubbs but (nearly) only male Outlaws, but then the only Grubb warriors we see are male, so maybe both races are just sexist when it comes to who should perform certain societal roles.

Daxter King · #20 12-26-2010, 11:40 AM

Id fuck one if I saw it.

Manco · #21 12-26-2010, 11:44 AM

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Given that I was only describing four species—Mudokons, Glukkons, Sligs and Paramites—it can't possibly apply to the species in SW. Obviously Clakkerz and Grubbs have roughly equal numbers of males to female and we can presume their respective reproductive models are ostensibly the same as ours. Wolvarks mention their wives (in the singular

), which, taken as canon, means they form monogynous, and presumably monogamous, relationships, implying the same is true for them.

Outlaws, on the other hand, we only see one female of the species, their numbers appearing vastly male-dominated. When Nate asked Lorne if Outlaws were a super species (seventh comment of Nate’s down), Lorne couldn't remember. We could wonder why OWI went to all the trouble of making female Clakkerz and Grubbs but (nearly) only male Outlaws, but then the only Grubb warriors we see are male, so maybe both races are just sexist when it comes to who should perform certain societal roles.

Ah, sorry, I misread

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Of all the Oddworld species we know are super species (only four, by the way)

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all the Oddworld species we know are super species

Also, wasn't Freyda a female?

***Wil*** · #22 12-26-2010, 12:20 PM

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Also, wasn't Freyda a female?

Don't think so. The Resistance Leader was, but we never saw her warrioring, only strateging.

For those confused, I will once again point out that "Frayda Evryting" and "Native Resistance Leader" have separate profiles: http://gamespot.com/xbox/adventure/o...&mode=previews

Manco · #23 12-26-2010, 01:05 PM

I never knew that. I just assumed the name Frayda referred to the Resistance Leader, and didn't bother looking closely.

Still seems logical to assume that since the leader is female there's no Grubb law against female warriors - we never see her fighting because she's the leader, not cannon fodder.

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #24 12-26-2010, 01:30 PM

I tried drawing her, but that broad nose is far from feminine! DX I'll upload tomorrow.

***Nate*** · #25 12-26-2010, 04:09 PM

There have been some theories that Stranger may be female.

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=12408

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #26 12-26-2010, 04:34 PM

Good theories...But if it is the case it feels very, "P.S. Dumbledore's gay even though I din't indicate that in ANY of the books..." I mean,why would OWI design a very masculine figure and not put any hint that he is really a she? (The arguements in that thread aren't all that solid imo). We could ask them, but I am pretty sure they'd laugh and go, "Wtf you talkin' 'bout bro?!" Because it's really obvious.

As I say, I'll upload my version tomorrow...I don't really like it though...

Strike Witch · #27 12-26-2010, 06:04 PM

Damn Furries in my fucking Oddworld

Foxtrot Wolfwhistle · #28 12-26-2010, 06:13 PM

Lol furries...Maybe I should start posting Rule 34 SW? XD I kid...My character isn't going to be some freakish murry-purry cat woman with huge breasts. In fact, she doesn't have breasts. Her outfit is a bit tomb raider-ish imo, but there's room to tweak and improve!

***Xavier*** · #29 12-26-2010, 10:22 PM

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I was going to make a character that was a female steef, but I didn't want people to go, "NO!!! U DOIN IT RONG!!! D:<"

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she'll have cybernetic legs a little like slig pants...

Wow is this even supposed to work together?

Andrelvis · #30 12-26-2010, 10:42 PM

What is an "udder"?