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SoulStorm ARG - Piece 10

Since it seems that Ed still has one more puzzle for us, I'm making this in advance, just in case.
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To get the ball rolling, this is where the phrase "listen for me" first turned up I believe, in one of the frames of this video:

http://oddworld.com/soulstorm/twitching.mp4

Here's the braille post OWI put up with the word "Monday" in:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BC0c-MTM...by=oddworldinc

And then of course we have the "piece 7 source" he's referring to, is that just Ed's Tweet?

And then pieces and chat box.

Is it an order of events to do something in? Perhaps at some point (maybe Monday) we will have to listen for him as he will Tweet the final code piece and we have to input it. But then why mention the piece 7 source specifically? Thoughts?




So it's here. But what do we do with it?
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Wow, even with this "map" this is still absurdly opaque

I agree with your analysis, Connell, I think "piece 7 source" is indeed referring to Ed's tweet.

However I can't imagine how all those pieces will finally fit together but I'm pretty sure it will give us a code that we will need to put in the chat box at the end.

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Yeah, I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. The difficulty level of the ARG has ramped up. It's sort of a guessing game for now, but I suppose the whole thing has been
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And then of course we have the "piece 7 source" he's referring to, is that just Ed's Tweet?
Uh, source of piece 7 is away.zip, isn't it?

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That's our hard-earned 9 codes.
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Ed's chatbox? we have to enter something to him on Soulstorm?
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Uh, source of piece 7 is away.zip, isn't it?
With the password we were able to see that the task of piece 7 was "listen to the source" by extracting the file from the zip.

The funny part is that we achieved the task without seeing/knowing it. We went to the source by listening to Ed's first tweets, the fifth one containing the password.

This is why we thing the source in this case are Ed's tweets.

For the rest I think you are right.

Also note that the last code we got (bw zv tu av av zu vv zv xt) is made of 9 pieces too.

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No, I would disagree - from your position, "listen for me" and "piece 7 source" are both the same meaning - Ed's tweets or other methods of communication with us.
I think it's different places or sources of information, whatever.

And "listen to the source" on piece 7 image actually sounds like the task what WAS itself, like on other pieces.

Anyway, considering that first is "listen to me", we have to decode his last tweet with letters.

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We have learned, that a lot of different people, of different age, sex, jobs, skin color, language and countries can join together to solve puzzles.
(at least I)

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when you have it
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what have you learned? how did you find it?
Is he speaking of same things? If same, I would thought of OWI's "Braille Monday" image.
If not, I think that "how did you find it" is how you guys found his Twitter.

EDIT: Perhaps he speaking of ciphering methods? We learnt his pattern of using Caesar cipher and hiding images and audio/video files, but that's rather common ARG method...

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We are disappointing Ed

What have we learnt guys? I've learnt so much. I'm not sure what part he's referring to as "it"
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Listen to the source = The source of the website
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We "learned" to listen through the caesar cipher (that's how we got the phrase). They told us Monday through braille.

So caeser cipher, braille. But where do we apply them? If that's the correct way of thinking.

EDIT: Perhaps we need to enter those letters Ed gave us through each step, E.G put it through the steps of the map

So, shift it 19 steps down:

so bw zv tu av av zu vv zv xt

Becomes: up so mn to to sn oo so qm

Converted to braille we get:



I don't know where we'd go with that, though.

Piece 7 source was covered in UTF-8 browser encode stuff, wasn't it?




Assuming it is referring to Ed's Tweet. I'm not sure where I'm going with this but it's worth following it through I guess.
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when we told you Monday, how did we tell you?
With image, from OWI, with Braille code/language

Follow the map = another Twitter account to follow?

EDIT:
Okay, you Caesar'd it... Now to convert it to Braille's dots?...

EDIT2: AND yet again, my favorite numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42 8291™ comes to the scene - maybe we need only #8, 2, 9 and 1?

:
zv zv xt bw
Ed said:
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seven... c seven

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Does that mean we're doing the right thing?
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I have no clue



I think we need to shift it up 19, not down
Or even just shift it 7.


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I think we have to shift it 7.

EDIT: yep I agree, Xav. Strange, when the puzzle they pointed us to shifted it 19. At least we're vaguely on the right tracks. Glad Ed told us now before we got 10 steps in.

7 Steps gives us: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
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Yes, I would definitely say that up, 7!
"c seven" = Caesar seven IMO!
And that also would mean that idea IS in different ciphers, so Braille is next I guess

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id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
Actually, the "id" makes me think of POST-parameter, like

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed?id=*some number here*
or perhaps someones account on Twitt, FB?

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7 Steps gives us: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
Is this seven steps up or down?

Shouldn't it be "up so mn to to sn oo so qm"?

(Sorry I'm at work with pretty restricted access to the net)

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EDIT 2:

Ok here's what next:


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That's not really how the caeser cipher works. You can shift it seven steps and that's that. It just pushes everything up the alphabet that many steps, like an infinite loop.

I got "up so mn to to sn oo so qm" by shifting it 19 spaces in the first place. But apparently Ed is trying to communicate that was wrong. But it does have the word up at the start. I'm confused.




7 steps is right.

So to recap:

Shifted 7 steps: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea

Braille:
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The last Ed's tweet is # (number) on Braille.
8291?
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gc gc ea id
I guess it has to be connected with Monday? Maybe there's something else on OWI img?

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last time we saw that was for "SPIRIT OF #1029"

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That's not really how the caeser cipher works. You can shift it seven steps and that's that. It just pushes everything up the alphabet that many steps, like an infinite loop.
Ah sorry about that, I tought you could shift it either up or down the alphabet.

Anyway you got it rigth

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Piece 7 source = fifth tweet? 5?
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I think the reason the # was using in SPIRIT OF #1029 is just because that's how you signal the start of numbers in braille, because numbers use the same braille symbols as some letters. E.G 6 and F are the same braille symbol, but if you put the braille # symbol before you know that it's 6 and not F. So perhaps we need to convert "WALF" to braille?

Or the tweet.

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Ah sorry about that, I tought you could sift it either up or down the alphabet.

Anyway you got it rigth
No worries man this is moving pretty quick now!




So do we convert the braille to UTF-8 or something? I think he's trying to tell us to change the braille symbols into their respective UTF-8 encoded numbers.
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Hey I got a feeling that Monday's letter's order is important.
I mean, on Monday image, letters are going
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MON
DAY
If I get it right. Guess we need to convert words to braille and place it in same order AND perhaps to turn them too.

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I believe we need each smybols HEX code from this table. It seems plausible, as it gives us the same amount of characters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braill...e_ASCII_values

Just a guess but let's give it a shot.
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I don't see the point of going trough braille but my gut tells me we now need to read them as numbers
(letters don't go higher than 'i' which is 9)

id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
94 73 12 83 83 72 33 73 51

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Here's my theory tried out:

id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
4944 4743 4142 4843 4843 4742 4343 4743 4541

Not sure if it's right. It seems to make it too generic.
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It looks like you added lots of '4' to the string of numbers I came up

Seriously tho, last time the '#' character was used in braille in this ARG was to tell us to read the code as numbers. (SPIRIT OF #1029)

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