Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee animation files and models

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Hello, fellow oddience. I was working on a project for some time with 2 more people. That project involves converting the models and animations from Munch's Oddysee for use in source games.. specifically - Garry's Mod.
After searching for any scrap of information on the internet, I could only find out that the .kf files (which are the animations for each character) are too old for Nifskope to open, but the .nif files (models) are totally fine, all characters are possible to view in Nifskope whatsoever.

My only guess is that someone could open the anims in a Hex Editor and modify them. So here comes the question: can anyone help out and modify the animation files so that they can be exported to a useable format in Source?


Thank you and have a nice day.

[Varrok]

I believe somebody already did convert MO models to Garry's Mod, I urge you to check the internet for those.

[Crashpunk]

The models are on the Workshop: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...htext=Oddworld

[Varrok]

Yeah, those

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

No, I know about the models from way back before when they were on Garrysmod.org, I saw them on workshop as well. I meant the animation files which can't be opened by NifSkope. The only way to do that is to modify them in a Hex Editor, because the version is too old for NifSkope to open.

[Varrok]

Oh. Ok.

Dunno about NIF files. Does Munch HD also use NIFs? There's no PC version out, I mean the console versions. If so, maybe the NIF version is higher there?

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

I tried to get them from there, but I had no luck doing so. I only managed to extract all sounds and music.

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

*bump*

[Varrok]

...are you alright? Should I call the doctor? This looks bad You should be more careful next time

[Paul]

Too old for NifSkope? Surely just find an older version of NifSkope then?

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Too old for NifSkope? Surely just find an older version of NifSkope then?

http://niftools.sourceforge.net/wiki...ch%27s_Oddysee
The latest version of NifSkope is 1.2.0, the oldest I was able to find was 1.1.0, and even so, it's no use.

Also, I am no stranger to sarcasm, Varrok.

Anyhow, here are some Slig quotes I've ripped from Munch's Oddysee HD as well as some Chippunk quotes from Stranger's Wrath HD
:

[Varrok]

Have you tried to contact the NiSkope creator (or one of those, if there are more than one)? I bet they still have the old versions laying around. Maybe they'll even help you a bit.

The good place to start searching might be this forum

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Have you tried to contact the NiSkope creator (or one of those, if there are more than one)? I bet they still have the old versions laying around. Maybe they'll even help you a bit.

The good place to start searching might be this forum

I've posted a topic here. Let's just hope someone will be kind enough to reply to it with a valid solution.

[Phylum]

The problem is probably that NIF files and MO predate this tool, and I doubt any version ever properly supported it.

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

The problem is probably that NIF files and MO predate this tool, and I doubt any version ever properly supported it.

It's as I feared. I guess the only way to get the animations within NifSkope is to hexedit the .kf files and maybe even the .nif files. I have no experience with any type of Hex Editor, though..

[Varrok]

Don't give up. MO PC port team and MO HD team both managed to use them, so it's not impossible

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Well, I do presume Oddworld Inhabitants has a pretty large database full of all the models in some other format like .obj with animations, so probably that's how. If we are to extract the models and anims from here, the Hex Editor seems to be the only solution

Edit: I downloaded the newest version of NifSkope (2.0), but I got this error: "this is not a normal .kf file; there should be only NiControllerSequences as root blocks"

[Varrok]

If that is true, then why MO PC uses nifs, still?

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

I have no clue, it was just an idea. There's got to be some way to get these goddamn animations, I just can't figure it out.

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

(Sorry for the double post) Someone on NifTools Forum posted a tutorial on how to get the animations to work. It's a little tricky, but it works. He even got the fuzzle animated!
P.S: If anyone wished to contribute to the mod, PM me so we may later discuss on Skype or Steam

[Varrok]

Good luck. I have a friend who'd love to mess around with the models in the SFM, if they worked with SFM too

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

This is going to take way too much for just 2 people, a model can be done anywhere between half an hour to more, and there are a lot of models. If you or someone else were to join, we could get them done much faster.

[Varrok]

I meant he'd love to use them, if you managed to rip them. Unfortunately, none of us are good at converting, nor we have that much time to do it

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Well, I'll try to finish them as quickly as possible and release it to the public via Steam Workshop when the mod is done. Thank you, anyways!

Edit: Here are some pics of some anims I've finished. It's gonna take a looong while, at least 12 anims per model.

[Paul]

If it can be done manually then why not write some code to automate it?

[Varrok]

I've just remembered how I hate certain slig animations in MO

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

What animations exactly and why? Is it because they look so goofy?
Edit: Paul, I'm not good at coding, so I can't make it automatic, sadly

[Varrok]

Yeah, they're overly silly. Each animation with slig in a pose like this one:

is painful to watch for me.

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

Finished up some anims for the Scrab, Paramite, Armored Vykker, Big Bro, Mudarcher, Armored Intern :
More to this story, as it develops!

[FrustratedAssassin]

Since they're .nif files could they theoretically be converted for use in Skyrim/Fallout?