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[STM]

Anyone of you yanks wanna exercise those gun rights you love so much?

My missus has been banned from going to the US because of her Iranian blood. Not sure how the fuck there's logic to that.

So yeah, let's have a thread about what utter scum that tiny handed fascist is.

[Varrok]

Didn't you live in Britain?

[STM]

Yes, but we wanted to go to America to visit Nat's family before they passed away. It's not gonna happen now. The ban extends to people who hold dual nationality and my missus is half Iranian.

[Varrok]

Darn, this is most unfortunate

[Manco]

All those people who told us “wait and see, he won’t be as bad as what he says” – they were right, he’s worse.

Trump’s travel ban has caused chaos and confusion, and it’s already been temporarily blocked by a federal court.

It’s heartening to see how quickly protesters have come out to decry the ban, as well as how quickly legal aid has been offered to those affected. Hopefully the concentrated efforts of so many people can put a complete stop to this stupidity.

But if this is what happens one week into his presidency, what else is going to happen in the next four years? How much further is he going to try and go? How much more damage is he going to cause in pursuit of hateful agendas?

But I guess this is what happens when you let a white supremacist write your executive orders for you. (That’s the same white supremacist who wants to silence any dissent in the media and just got a seat on the National Security Council at the expense of two of the most senior defense chiefs in the country, by the way.)

[Nepsotic]

I have no idea if Manco is insanely paranoid or he's just fear mongering, but one thing is certainly clear; He'd make a great journalist.

[Manco]

He'd make a great journalist.

I’ll take that as a compliment sweetie

[TheParamitePie]

Yes, but we wanted to go to America to visit Nat's family before they passed away. It's not gonna happen now. The ban extends to people who hold dual nationality and my missus is half Iranian.

That is quite unfortunate. And even though Trump lost the popular vote it's mad to think that so many Americans wanted this to happen. So.many voted for him hoping he would fulfill his promise.

[Varrok]

I’ll take that as a compliment sweetie

He certainly didn't mean it as a compliment. Your post was far from neutral.

[TheParamitePie]

To be fair I know I'll get hate for this but I can take it. But if I was an American I would definitely have voted for Trump over Clinton. He's far from perfect but man I can't stand Clinton.

[Manco]

Your post was far from neutral.

Why would it have been neutral?

[Sybil Ant]

To be fair I know I'll get hate for this but I can take it. But if I was an American I would definitely have voted for Trump over Clinton. He's far from.perfect but man I can't stand Clinton.

Just because he was painted as a political outsider, it does not mean he's anti-establishment.

[TheParamitePie]

Just because he was painted as a political outsider, it does not mean he's anti-establishment.

I agree.

[Varrok]

Why would it have been neutral?

A news reporter should report news accurately, not distort them.

[Nepsotic]

But they don't though. That was my point.

[Manco]

A news reporter should report news accurately, not distort them.

I’m not a news reporter though, am I? Do you think I’m seriously claiming to be one? No, I was giving a flippant retort to someone’s empty insults.

[RoryF]

varrok i'm gonna need you to stop triggleing right here thanks bud

[Nepsotic]

I’m not a news reporter though, am I? Do you think I’m seriously claiming to be one? No, I was giving a flippant retort to someone’s empty insults.

Either way, great job hijacking somebody's thread to yet again talk about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPEDY TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
TRUHMPS BAAAAHD
TRUHMPS GOOOOOHD


Nobody should give a fuck, it's not the end of the world, and guess what? No matter where you're living, you're lives are going to remain largely unchanged.
Argue with that, but I'll be happy to look back and laugh at you in the 4/8 years time when it's been proven true.

[Manco]

Either way, great job hijacking somebody's thread to yet again talk about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPEDY TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
TRUHMPS BAAAAHD
TRUHMPS GOOOOOHD

let me hijack this thread about trump by talking about trump

Nobody should give a fuck, it's not the end of the world, and guess what? No matter where you're living, you're lives are going to remain largely unchanged.
Argue with that, but I'll be happy to look back and laugh at you in the 4/8 years time when it's been proven true.

Yes, no one should give a fuck about politics or world events, it is literally impossible for it to affect anyone’s lives. We also shouldn’t discuss any subject which doesn’t directly affect us, or pay attention to anything that negatively affects others unless it hurts us too.

If you and your pals don’t care, why not just ignore the thread and let those of us who do care have a more pleasant discussion?

[Nepsotic]

let me hijack this thread about trump by talking about trump

At first I wondered why this wasn't a blog, then I noticed the final line of the OP and expected a more rational and sound debate. I don't know why I expected that, I'm tired and have a cold so I'll blame it on that.

Yes, no one should give a fuck about politics or world events, it is literally impossible for it to affect anyone’s lives.

Because that was exactly the point I was making.
You know who's lives it definitely affects? The politicians. We start talking and screaming and protesting about them and their pockets get heavier.

We also shouldn’t discuss any subject which doesn’t directly affect us, or pay attention to anything that negatively affects others unless it hurts us too.

You're right, it's such an infrequently discussed subject in which everything that is to be said has totally not been said, and you're original post made plenty of astute and original observations that was definitely worth the read.

If you and your pals don’t care, why not just ignore the thread and let those of us who do care have a more pleasant discussion?

That's the equivalent of saying "if you didn't like this film why did you comment? gtfo fag"

I didn't like your post, I give it a 3/10.

[Manco]

Because that was exactly the point I was making.
You know who's lives it definitely affects? The politicians. We start talking and screaming and protesting about them and their pockets get heavier.

So, let’s just all ignore the politicians? That’s not going to solve anything; if you distrust them that much surely you should be scrutinizing everything they do?

You're right, it's such an infrequently discussed subject in which everything that is to be said has totally not been said, and you're original post made plenty of astute and original observations that was definitely worth the read.

You’ve certainly contributed so much to the topic yourself???

That's the equivalent of saying "if you didn't like this film why did you comment? gtfo fag"

It’s more like “if you didn’t watch the movie why are you talking about it?”

If you have a differing opinion go right ahead and let’s have a civil discussion about it, but just coming in to a thread about a political subject just to insult everyone else and proclaim you don’t care about it is childish and pointless.

[STM]

It's caused us quite a lot of hassle tbh. My girlfriend isn't going to be able to see her terminally ill family members before they die now. So...there's that. Pretty big fucking deal.

[Nepsotic]

So, let’s just all ignore the politicians?

Not what I was saying. My point is that not only has Trump been discussed to death, but your post was

childish and pointless.

so I decided to take a pop at you for it.

You’ve certainly contributed so much to the topic yourself???

Genuinely probably more than you did, and that wasn't even my intention.

It’s more like “if you didn’t watch the movie why are you talking about it?”

I have watched it, so, so many times, it's playing everywhere. And it's really shit.

If you have a differing opinion go right ahead and let’s have a civil discussion about it, but just coming in to a thread about a political subject just to insult everyone else and proclaim you don’t care about it is childish and pointless.

Yes.

It's caused us quite a lot of hassle tbh. My girlfriend isn't going to be able to see her terminally ill family members before they die now. So...there's that. Pretty big fucking deal.

Mind me asking what they have? How is an entire family terminally ill? Infection?

[STM]

They are very prone to cancer unfortunately, I think maybe four or five of them are on the way out because of it. Trump's disturbing reactionary ban on random ethnicities means she won't get to say goodbye.

[Manco]

Not what I was saying. My point is that not only has Trump been discussed to death, but your post was

so I decided to take a pop at you for it.

And what I’m saying is that this is a thread created to discuss Trump, so coming here to complain about how you don’t want to discuss it is completely unnecessary. As was “taking a pop at me”.

Genuinely probably more than you did, and that wasn't even my intention.

Nah, you haven’t made a single post here actually about the thread subject. Again, if you want to discuss the topic instead of bemoan others discussing it, feel free.

I have watched it, so, so many times, it's playing everywhere. And it's really shit.

So change the channel – the thread is totally optional for you if you don’t want to read or talk about it. All you’re doing is dragging the people who do want to discuss it off-topic.

[Vlam]

STM, you made a mistake: this should have been a blog (instead of a thread).

[UnderTheSun]

STM, you made a mistake: this should have been a blog (instead of a thread).

I agree.

Also, if there were a way to offer our condolences without a flame war, that'd be great.

[Nemo]

Nobody should give a fuck, it's not the end of the world, and guess what? No matter where you're living, you're lives are going to remain largely unchanged.
Argue with that, but I'll be happy to look back and laugh at you in the 4/8 years time when it's been proven true.

Jesus, how naive are you? I'd say that I wish I could bury my head in the sand as deep as you've managed, but I'm not sure if your head is in the sand or up your own ass. The fact is that this country, arguably the most powerful country in the world, has elected a man who ran on an openly nationalist platform and operates on fascist political policies. And some of us actually care about how the country we live in, or the country that is undoubtedly going to affect us, is run.

But, let's ignore how fucking indefensibly terrible his policies are. I could go on and on about him silencing several government organizations, about him branding media outlets that disagree with him as "fake news," about him wanting to publish a fucking weekly list of crimes committed by foreigners. Let's instead talk about how you decided to shit up the thread.

You came in here with grief over people complaining about Trump. You didn't defend Trump which, as much as I would like to argue against, would have been perfectly reasonable. No, you didn't give any opinion whatsoever on Trump, and you were quite intent on that. You were complaining that people were talking about Trump, in a thread about motherfucking Trump. Now, I could even defend this if you were voicing an opinion against a Trump thread in general. "Oh, we've heard so much about Trump, we see him everywhere in the news already, we don't really need to discuss him here." "Oh, I'd rather we didn't get political on OWF, it just leads to fights instead of debates." But no, as you've demonstrated, you're fine with the idea of a Trump thread.

Either way, great job hijacking somebody's thread to yet again talk about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPEDY TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

Someone voiced their opinion, and because you didn't like it you decided to shitpost. You started an argument, knowing full well that you'd be going into it without putting up any position for you to defend, just so you could stay on the offensive and derail the fucking thread.

[Vlam]

Why is Nemo upset?

[Nemo]

I have looked down upon my children and decided them to be unworthy.