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05-15-2012, 04:21 PM
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Yes, once we die we won't be afraid of that state. That's not a reason not to be afraid of it. That's more of a reason to fear it, if anything.
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05-16-2012, 01:18 AM
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And as I've said before 'There's no point fearing non existence because once we enter a state of non existence we'll have nothing to fear' is a bad argument. We're here now. We're alive now. We're concsious now. I am entitled to fear losing everything I've lived with for twenty two years and will hopefully keep on having for the next sixty or so. It is rational for me to sometimes dread death, no matter how far away or inevitable it is.
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I see what you're saying, but I honestly can't relate. The closest I can get is what I've said before about not wanting my final moments to be full of regret for things not accomplished. But fear of loss on its own, I don't feel.

This is going to end up circling back to a previous discussion, but to make a comparison: I fear loss of limb, loss of freedom, loss of job, etc only because I would then need to continue living in a reduced state. I can't fear loss of life simply because I won't experience a lack of life.
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The way I see it is that we shouldn't fear the inevitable, death is something we can't really change, we're all slaves to entropy in the end, moreover, we should fear not using our lives to their fullest potential. That in mind, obviously if you fear death you can't really do much about it except put it out of mind...
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