Abe HD Ideas -

Scrabaniac · #**2641** 10-02-2012, 03:14 AM

They are great so far, it seems too good for pre alpha! Usually pre alpha has no colour or textures

Bullet Magnet · #**2642** 10-02-2012, 08:32 AM

That's pre-alpha-channel.

Manco · #**2643** 10-02-2012, 10:02 AM

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I can't exactly tell from the footage, does AONnT retain the grid-style movement?

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I think it's probably is. I haven't seen Abe making any 'half-steps' or anything

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I don't think it does. Abe and the slig he possesses seem to adjust their positions slightly when pulling levers/activating the lift.

He also does a little shuffle backwards to line up for climbing ledges.

pupbenny · #**2644** 10-02-2012, 10:03 AM

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I whish they could change the chanting/possession animation, the one in the original AO was better.
I was hoping they would use some light effects when abe chant (making the light rotate) and keep the slig exploding.

This is just pre-alpha remember. They've still got a year to make it, those effects was just put in on Friday so people knew what was going on.

Varrok · #**2645** 10-02-2012, 10:17 AM

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He also does a little shuffle backwards to line up for climbing ledges.

Yeah, i've noticed that. But wasn't it a step-lenght? I think he just couldn't do this one more step in the original

***Wil*** · #**2646** 10-02-2012, 10:37 AM

Half-and-half. The world is still a grid, and a lot of Abe's moves are of fixed length: a running jump clears three units, a standing hop clears two. But Abe does not snap to the grid (well, he does when he interacts with objects), and you can stop running or walking after any distance. In addition, Abe runs at a constant speed, but his walking speed is analogue.

pupbenny · #**2647** 10-02-2012, 10:40 AM

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Half-and-half. The world is still a grid, and a lot of Abe's moves are of fixed length: a running jump clears three units, a standing hop clears two. But Abe does not snap to the grid (well, he does when he interacts with objects), and you can stop running or walking after any distance. In addition, Abe runs at a constant speed, but his walking speed is analogue.

Interesting. Why is it just the walking that's analogue and not the running? And what about the sneeking?

Varrok · #**2648** 10-02-2012, 10:54 AM

A bit dissapointing, but could be much worse

Scrabaniac · #**2649** 10-02-2012, 10:59 AM

Explain analogue? Is it the harder you push the stick the faster he goes? (giggity) so sneaking would be a very slight push?

MeechMunchie · #**2650** 10-02-2012, 11:02 AM

I thought Wil meant that you accelerate slightly if you keep walking, wheras running sends Abe straight into a sprint.

Bullet Magnet · #**2651** 10-02-2012, 11:05 AM

I imagine that it means he has a top speed, which he snaps to when running so that players can actually outrun the animals.

Havoc · #**2652** 10-02-2012, 11:07 AM

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Half-and-half. The world is still a grid, and a lot of Abe's moves are of fixed length: a running jump clears three units, a standing hop clears two. But Abe does not snap to the grid (well, he does when he interacts with objects), and you can stop running or walking after any distance. In addition, Abe runs at a constant speed, but his walking speed is analogue.

I suppose that wouldn't be of much use on the PC version then, since I assume this works only for controllers?

Andrelvis · #**2653** 10-02-2012, 11:11 AM

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I suppose that wouldn't be of much use on the PC version then, since I assume this works only for controllers?

Why would it?

Bullet Magnet · #**2654** 10-02-2012, 11:12 AM

One thing I noticed from the video was that he jumped up to higher platforms further back than I am used to. In the original Abe literally stood directly beneath the ledge and jumped straight up. Not so in the clip we saw.

I find it disorientating. I expect I'll get used to it, but right now it's jarring.

Havoc · #**2655** 10-02-2012, 11:45 AM

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Why would it?

Because controllers have gradual levels in their movement sticks and a keyboard key is either pressed or it is not.

Andrelvis · #**2656** 10-02-2012, 12:15 PM

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Because controllers have gradual levels in their movement sticks and a keyboard key is either pressed or it is not.

Yes, but that is of no bearing in regards to whether pixel-based-movement is possible instead of tile-based movement, since you can unpress the keyboard arrows at a myriad of different times.

Bullet Magnet · #**2657** 10-02-2012, 12:22 PM

The x key moves his right leg, the z key moves his left leg. PC gamers will have total control over Abe's movement speed and the number of hop-skip-jumps he attempts while fleeing through the Free-Fire Zone.

Varrok · #**2658** 10-02-2012, 01:17 PM

QWOPworld: Abe's Oddysee

Scrabaniac · #**2659** 10-02-2012, 01:26 PM

nothing like mashing the buttons like a motherfucker when you see a scrab.

Havoc · #**2660** 10-02-2012, 01:29 PM

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nothing like mashing the buttons like a motherfucker when you see a scrab.

How is bashing buttons going to help? I just go 'fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck DOOR!'. And then I miss the door and I die.

Bullet Magnet · #**2661** 10-02-2012, 02:24 PM

You have to stop running two steps early and enter as you skid by.

I was so happy when I finally worked that out.

Scrabaniac · #**2662** 10-02-2012, 02:56 PM

I used to go aaaaaaarghhggh! And try and turn the remote to try and make him run faster haha

marlz · #**2663** 10-03-2012, 02:15 AM

It's memories of heart-thumping stuff like that which makes me curious how the areas are going to look and sound, escecially chase-type scenarios.
Actually, with the constant scrolling, it might make the Scrabs slowly gaining up on you even more terrifying... which quite frankly could be even more immersive.

I kind of like the approach Abe takes to grabbing ledges now. Looks less like he's holding on by his fingertips, the more I make the comparison, and considering most of the speedy ledge grabbing will be done through run jumping... well, the "freedom from the grid" is a fun approach, makes movement more real.

And a thought hit me... I wonder how the soul rings / spirit rings are going to look... that shall indeed be an explosive and incredible thing to watch. Shrykull in 3D is finally happening. :O

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Manco said:
At least they would already have a name ready to go. Abe’s Exoddus: X-tra Bone is thematically consistent.

Heh, I'm kind of hoping for "The Bones Brew Connection" or just "SoulStorm", but X-Tra Bone is a clever idea indeed. Tons of people overlooked that bottle's label.
Then again I'm getting at least 2-3 years ahead of current development, so perhaps I should get back on the topic of New 'n' Tasty. ^^;

Scrabaniac · #**2664** 10-03-2012, 10:07 AM

The thing with X-tra Bone is, it doesnt relate to it being new, so it doesnt have meaning, unless extra stuff is added. New n Tasty suits its title because it is a new game.

Andrelvis · #**2665** 10-03-2012, 12:24 PM

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The thing with X-tra Bone is, it doesnt relate to it being new, so it doesnt have meaning, unless extra stuff is added. New n Tasty suits its title because it is a new game.

How about:
Abe's Exoddus: New 'n' Thirsty

Scrabaniac · #**2666** 10-03-2012, 01:30 PM

sounds good, or OR get this... Abe's exoddus: Just add Tears (just a quick one that came into my mind, doesn't relate much to NEW but it relates to Just Add Water and the secret ingredient in brew!

Bullet Magnet · #**2667** 10-03-2012, 02:33 PM

Brew 'n' Tasty.

Scrabaniac · #**2668** 10-03-2012, 02:45 PM

i'm liking it! what about something along the lines of 'new formula' referring to it being new, formula referring it to it being built from scratch?

Havoc · #**2669** 10-03-2012, 03:47 PM

Poor people at JAW. They barely revealed pre-alpha footage of one game before we completely lose interest and start focusing on the not even confirmed sequel.

***Wil*** · #**2670** 10-03-2012, 05:07 PM

Brew 'n' Yeasty