Ugly people, should they REALLY breed...? -

ClaireBear · #**181** 04-19-2004, 09:58 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Isn't that the how the saying goes?

Anyhoo...

IMHO ugly or less able bodied... go for your life... ruck like rabbits! But people who are lacking in intelligence... for those of us in the UK I'm talking charvers / chavas / townies and I guess for you guys across the pond "trailertrash" (not too sure on the terminology there!) there should be restrictions!

Bringing kids up into that lifestyle... NO WAY!

But thats just a few of my own personal thoughts on the matter....

Mac the Janitor · #**182** 04-20-2004, 05:24 AM

Wow.

2 years ago, this topic was started.

AND IT STILL LIVES.

*gasp*

Jacob · #**183** 04-20-2004, 10:33 AM

'a) someone goodlooking and someone ugly to breed (if they wanted to)'

Do not be ridiculous. That's like saying "Hey, lets have a black man have kids with a white woman!!" it's crazy!! But no. It would contaminate the gene pool and more than likely lead to some kind of uprising.

'b) someone goodlooking but unfortuneately poor to breed.'

Yes. But their child would be given to somebody rich. And worthy. Silly poor people. Being all...poor...and shtuffs.

'and also, if ugly/poor/stupid people want to have kids, can they adopt/foster the child of someone good-looking/rich/smart?'

The UPS [Ugly Poor and Stupid] do not have "wants" or "needs". They do not even have rights. At best they are kept in solitary confinement for their organs. At worst they are burnt/carved up for meat/experimented on.

'Are we talking mentally retarded, or someone confined to a wheelchair?'

Oh, the mentally ill.

'And Jacob, as I've said before, you're not as good looking as you make yourself out to be'

That was a bad photograph and carry on with such Liableness and i will do what any of you Americans do best...sue.

'AND IT STILL LIVES.

*gasp*'

Because much like my once living son, i sealed this topic in a plastic bag to keep its freshness...

Esus · #**184** 04-20-2004, 11:19 AM

I would prefer to stop those with low IQ's breeding than the ugly.
Low IQ = Chav/Yob

No more low IQ's, no more Chavs/Yobs.

***Nate*** · #**185** 04-20-2004, 12:38 PM

what actually are townies?

oh, and can we take the next person who says "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" out of the gene pool as well. Preferably in a manner involving spikes, blades and rabid scorpions

ClaireBear · #**186** 04-20-2004, 10:39 PM

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what actually are townies?

A "townie" is another word for "charver/charva" also known as "NEDS" in Glasgow, "Scallies" in Liverpool...

Basically tracksuit wearing, law breaking underclass! Who are sadly taking over Britain!

Check this out...

www.newcastlestuff.com click on the icon "CharverCentral" thats flashing as a sovereign ring... on the right of the screen!

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oh, and can we take the next person who says "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" out of the gene pool as well. Preferably in a manner involving spikes, blades and rabid scorpions

Hey! So I couldn't be arsed to trawl back through 2 years worth of posts!

Shoot me! ... Where is Ferill when you need him?

***Alcar*** · #**187** 04-21-2004, 12:30 AM

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oh, and can we take the next person who says "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" out of the gene pool as well. Preferably in a manner involving spikes, blades and rabid scorpions

May I ask why, exactly? If you don't hold certain social views on people, such as "what beauty is", then isn't everyone seen the same, and not classed by their looks? Certainly, the beholder is therefore at fault at finding something ugly.

Alcar...

Jacob · #**188** 04-21-2004, 08:25 AM

Alcar, your equal-viewed ways are not welcome in my dictatorship of the pretty...shoo.

The Underclass...wow...hey, what do i do to get my title thing changed? Like yours is 'The Oddworld Mafia' I want mine to be 'Lawyer to the Underworld'...because i'm a loser.

"Silly Rabbit. Trix are for kids."

Statikk HDM · #**189** 04-21-2004, 08:44 AM

Man, I think this is a disgusting idea. It all stems from fear and who is to say how someone will turn out? Just because someone's parents are mean or not too bright it doesn't mean that someone's life should be stopped. Didn't this used to go as the Final Solution? I mean, who wants storm troopers to be running around messing with people? I don't see how this would even work but there would definately be some resistance from me.

***Nate*** · #**190** 04-21-2004, 08:07 PM

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May I ask why, exactly? If you don't hold certain social views on people, such as "what beauty is", then isn't everyone seen the same, and not classed by their looks? Certainly, the beholder is therefore at fault at finding something ugly.

I've got no problem with people beleiving that. Hell, I beleive it myself. What I do object to is people posting it again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again. and again until my brain bleeds.

see, General Dripik isn't the only one who likes to cut 'n' paste

ps Jacob never did post that picture of himself did he?

nads · #**191** 04-22-2004, 02:41 AM

No he didn't.

Makes you think that Jacob is...dare I say...pug fugly?

Maybe...no, I'm not getting into that.

Mac the Janitor · #**192** 04-22-2004, 05:31 AM

He posted a pic of himself a long time ago in the "What do you look like?" thread.

What happened to that thread?

Jacob · #**193** 04-22-2004, 08:45 AM

I took the picture off 'cos it was pooples. I have more, but i'm posing in them and they're baaaad. But amusing. One is a sort of purple wash with me wearing a tophat...it rocks my socks.

I don't wear black nail varnish anymore...

I do wear black baby skin though...

Jacob · #**194** 09-06-2004, 03:03 PM

So, here's my newest theory, ahem, i think it's good. But that's because i rawwwk -

It's mainly to do with the Lower classes [I.E - Townies, Chavs, Wigga's etc] but i think that we should castrate them from birth. Because, let's face it, what are the cretinous Bag of Pig scrotums doing?! They're giving decent teenagers a bad name, that's what!

The Government/Media has a tendency to focus on these foul, low beasts of harassment when doing research on under age sex. And by "under age" i mean 10 year olds. They then paint all teenagers with the same brush, calling us all because we're all apparently having sex too early, when really the evolved teenagers are having it at a perfectly reasonable age, and it's the lowers who are having it at a time when they should be talking about Pokémon.

They then get pregnant, because they're idioctically young, and by the age of 18, they already have 5 children. And, chances are, they've married a Kosovan [this applies mainly to the Townies in the UK], who, chances are, is violent and brings all his sodding Asian family over here [and lets face it, that kind have big families] and this then creates Racial tension. Not only among Whites and Asians. But Blacks and Asians. And Asians and Asians.

So, here's my ploy - all teenage Townies [and their babies] - Castrate them. Let them go around screwing, hopefully they'll contract AIDS and wipe themselves out. However, we should castrate them, but keep their reproductive organs [semen, eggs etc] in storeage. So that if in the event they actually become upstanding citizens and they want children, they can have their own children naturally. And if they become Slug sludge [more than likely] their organs can be burnt and their Genepool can expire a la natures way.

So, feel free to vote me in as ruler of the world, like, now...

Hobo · #**195** 09-07-2004, 05:00 AM

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So, feel free to vote me in as ruler of the world, like, now...

You've got my vote.

Your plan reminds me of one my maths teacher had that involved electric stun guns and townies.

Jacob · #**196** 09-07-2004, 09:20 AM

Well, in the near future i would like to create these special camps were Townies could be experimented on so the world could find a cure for their...wrongness.

The camps would also experiment with Psychokinesis.

Which reminds me, is it true that Hitler used to do shtuffs to the Jews involving Psychic experiments et al?

Fez · #**197** 09-08-2004, 07:06 AM

It is indeed. I believe he used identical twins in many psychic operations.

Alpha · #**198** 09-08-2004, 07:45 AM

is it me or is that wrong footed?.

***Nate*** · #**199** 09-08-2004, 02:44 PM

I think ferill is right about the twins but the entire NASA research into what astronauts could cope with was based on experiments Dr Mengele did on concentration camp inmates (Jews/Gypsies/Homosexuals/Political Prisoners/Anyone Hitler Didn't Like). Stuff like "lets spin this bloke in a centrifuge and see how far we can go until his eyeballs pop". Fun for all the family.

I think its a measure of how much I've been desensitised to Jacob that the bit of his post that I found most ridiculous was him suggesting experiments into psychokinesis.

And Alpha, can you please try and make more sense in your posts. If you came from a country that didn't speak english I would understand but this is just ridiculous.

Al the Glukkon · #**200** 09-08-2004, 03:29 PM

You have my vote Jacob.

Jacob · #**201** 09-09-2004, 05:28 AM

'If you came from a country that didn't speak english I would understand but this is just ridiculous.'

He's Irish, what do you expect? He'll either be backwards or drunk. Or both.

Jacob · #**202** 01-28-2005, 10:56 AM

Okay, so the topic of the Death Penalty, and my more recent views, has sparked me into bringing this topic back up. I still stand by the fact that Ugly people shouldn't have kids. As well as poverty stricken people. But now, what with the Holocaust's anniversary only just past, i feel it necessary to share this more recent view. Ahem.

The Jews should be exterminated.

That part was a joke. Ahem.

The Lower Orders [e.g - Townies, rough as f*ck Underlings, Council Estate scum etc] should be castrated/neutered from a VERY early age. Their reproductive organs stored in cryogenics. And their social productivity monitered. If the Lowers suddenly become an active, and integral part of society, complimenting it well and being productive, they will have the right to have children.
HOWEVER - if they do not. And basically reside in the sludge that is their crime-filled life, slopping around like a Slug having an epileptic fit, then their organs are incinerated. Never to be seen/used for foul means again.

I would like you all to take this in, and let it soak into your already moist-sponge-like Brains, before i explain in full, Hitler-esque, detail.

Esus · #**203** 01-28-2005, 11:06 AM

That would be nice. There are too many yobs. Too many. Way too many.
Such an idea wouldn't last in society though, unless you did it really well.

The Shadowman · #**204** 01-28-2005, 11:10 AM

Well if people lived like they did when they where primative, then only the fittest would survive, so if they can survive then they should be able to breed, know we give people with defects ways to survive even thought they wouldn't survive in the wild, so the whole idea of who is fit becomes quite hard to see unless you leave a bunch of people in the desert and see who survives.

Volsung · #**205** 01-28-2005, 01:34 PM

First off: I--not being british--don't have a clue what you mean by townies or lower orders, but I'm guessing its similair to rednecks. I have no problem with a large variety of people never having children, but to base it on social class seems reckless and counter-productive. I also disagree with the idea of giving them back the right to breed if they're a good part of society. That's crap. Saying you're a productive member of society means you're judging success based on worldy possessions or how often you volunteer to help homeless people.

I just don't think that anyone's got a right to judge how worthwhile a person is, unless you're going to be purely utilitarian about it, in which case the thread's major point about attractiveness is thrown out the window.

And I don't think keeping people you don't like from breeding will stop people you don't like from existing. (Even if you waited a hundred generations, much less the one to three you'll be alive for.)

So basically, while I think there should be less people overall, I don't think neutering a social group would be a fair or even successful solution. I'd settle for people being neutered after having one child.

Oh, and I don't think we should drop everyone in the desert, either. I mean, if they grew up there, maybe, but how're a bunch of inner-city people supposed to adapt to a desert environment before they die of dehydration? I don't think they are. And Survival of the Fittest has never really been a trademark of humanity. Societies have--for an extended period of time--taken care of the young, elderly and stupid who weren't necessarily cut out for surviving. So saying we should live like people did when they were "primitive" (a term that can't effectively be applied to hunting and gathering people) is kind of missing the point.

But chances are I'm taking this too seriously. (Even though I'm not.)

Jacob · #**206** 01-28-2005, 02:39 PM

'but to base it on social class seems reckless and counter-productive'

People seem to always think i'm going on about social class and the income people have coming in, but it really isn't anything to do with that. Walk around Hull and you literally see dozens of Lower Orders, all who deserve to be hunted down by a man with a rather large gun. They're violent, foul, aggressive and disgusting. This goes for the girls as well as the boys. It's these cretins that need to be edited out from our History.

I have no problem with the Lower classes breeding, so long as they make sure they teach their kids manners and respect.

'Saying you're a productive member of society means you're judging success based on worldy possessions or how often you volunteer to help homeless people.'

Again, nay. In Hull there is a rather large divide. There's East Hull and West Hull. East Hull being were all the...lessers are. East Hull is dangerous, intimidating and ridden with foulness. Now, if we whittled down the Underlings and just left the productive members, East Hull would be a much nicer place. And this is what i mean by "productive". As in, producing a nice area to live in and a nice enviroment.

I would happily do it as a 40 year trial, at first, in Hull. I can guarantee a massive change. Townies tend to have sex at an early age, not caring about STDs or Pregnancy. Hence why the Lessers outnumber their superiors 5-1. This would mean that not only do the teenage girls not get pregnant, but they don't scrounge off the Government and get benefits. They don't pass on their immature, volatile attitude to their children, and thus we slowly manage to phase out the scummy nature of society.

Sure, chances are they will keep spreading STDs, but all we can do about that is pray and hope it's AIDs so the mass extinction of our inferiors comes quicker and earlier.

***Nate*** · #**207** 04-20-2005, 06:59 PM

I was thinking about this thread the other day when I realised that whilst I've got no problem with people who are ugly through random chance and genetics (beyond not wanting to spend a tram trip sitting opposite one), I absolutely can't stand people who actually choose to be ugly. Especially when they think they look good.

This was prompted by a guy who could possibly be fairly attractive (say, 7/10) if it were not for his hair; which was over-gelled and curly at the back but with a straggly, straightened fringe hanging over his forehead. This reduced his attractiveness rating down to 1.5/10.

I've also been seeing a guy with a mullet hanging around my uni lately which should count as a crime against humanity.

Thus I would like to propose the following laws, to be introduced by popular vote into the constitution:

Bad haircuts would be punished by Shaving Until Shiny (SUS) so that these people will realise that hair is a privelege, not a right. This will include mullets, avoidable boof (eg by using some sort of product) or that horrible stylishly-messy hair.

Anyone wearing so much makeup that they look like a drag-queen or a corpse made up for an open-coffin funeral will be ducked in water, witch-hunt style, until all makeup is washed away. Thus the punishment will fit the crime as the more makeup, the longer ducking. However, it should be noted that actual drag-queens would be excepted from this rule.

Any straight guy wearing a pink t-shirt will be liberally coated with a layer of pink paint; much like 'scarlet women' were dyed red centuries ago.

All infringments would be tried by a jury of citizens, but no fashion designers or models as they often seem to be the worst offenders.

Feel free to propose your own laws:

Coolmanbizkit · #**208** 04-21-2005, 07:00 PM

I heard somewhere that Pink is the new black... Im not gonna wear it though

Dino · #**209** 04-21-2005, 07:14 PM

Ridding the world of ugly people would do to beautiful people what creating a machine that makes stunning artworks would do to art. It would make it standard, mediocre, average, mundane, and boring.

They say that 99% of music is rubbish, but I say that's what makes the 1% pure ecstacy. We are only reminded that something is special if we see little of it, or do not have it at all. That is what is so ironic. We take for granted the miracles that are standard... life, the universe, our technology, our transport, and the world we live on... We see it, use it, and experience it so much that we no longer notice it...

Can you imagine something like that happening to something as wonderous as beauty? Can you imagine what a crime it would be to standardise something that so deserves to be as special as it is? I can... and I don't like it.

Coolmanbizkit · #**210** 04-21-2005, 07:23 PM

Same here, I never thought of it like that.