Abe HD -

Varrok · #**181** 01-19-2012, 07:49 AM

6 people isn't much. I mean if I compare to how many people were there in 97... but ok, I'll wait till I see any trailers or sth

Sekto Springs · #**182** 01-19-2012, 08:41 AM

As far as the core creative team, six people is plenty. Most of the people who worked for OWI back in the day only handled the actual production, but all the main ideas came from Lorne, Sherry, and only a handful of damn fine artists. When the time comes, JAW will hire all the help they need to make it a reality.

MeechMunchie · #**183** 01-19-2012, 08:54 AM

Can people stop being mean to the JAW staff, please? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you... They don't have to be here you know.

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The major defining factor in what is going to make our realtime version look good is the artist, they are not all created equal. This is precisely why i'm still looking for an env artist good enough to fill these very large shoes.

Or a mediocre artist with really big feet.

Havoc · #**184** 01-19-2012, 09:36 AM

We're not being mean, we're just giving feedback and suggestions. A different outlook on things if you will. It's in no way meant badly.

Varrok · #**185** 01-19-2012, 10:46 AM

I wasn't trying to be mean, I was just trying to point out things I thought were ridiculous

sheridanm962 · #**186** 01-19-2012, 02:33 PM

I agree, he wasn't trying to be mean at all.

Bullet Magnet · #**187** 01-19-2012, 02:51 PM

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Why worry, the remake is in good hands.

To be fair, we haven't seen their hands.

***Wil*** · #**188** 01-19-2012, 03:01 PM

You've seen mine.

sheridanm962 · #**189** 01-19-2012, 03:04 PM

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You've seen mine.

Yes master.

By the way: It would be good to know how Abe turns out in the game, like could I rotate the camera perhaps?

***Wil*** · #**190** 01-19-2012, 03:07 PM

I don't know how to take this.

Goresplatter · #**191** 01-19-2012, 03:42 PM

Camera rotation for when there's no movement? Interesting... though it would of course require double the work in backgrounds...

Havoc · #**192** 01-19-2012, 04:31 PM

What would be the value in being able to do that?

sheridanm962 · #**193** 01-19-2012, 04:32 PM

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What would be the value in being able to do that?

I don't know, I figured I could just stare at Abe for a while

Havoc · #**194** 01-19-2012, 04:36 PM

You pervert. Stick to sheep, please.

sheridanm962 · #**195** 01-19-2012, 04:37 PM

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You pervert. Stick to sheep, please.

No not like that, I meant like how I stare at the water in Half-Life 2 games because I just love the quality!

Goresplatter · #**196** 01-19-2012, 04:55 PM

Take in more scenery and view things from a different angle?

Though I agree that it wouldn't be worth the effort. Just sayin'.

zimfromBM · #**197** 01-19-2012, 05:32 PM

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Yes master.

By the way: It would be good to know how Abe turns out in the game, like could I rotate the camera perhaps?

pointless dumb useless retard idea

Sekto Springs · #**198** 01-19-2012, 06:05 PM

Wil, your hands look like twiglets.

sheridanm962 · #**199** 01-19-2012, 09:18 PM

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pointless dumb useless retard idea

Then you must hate Munch's oddysee then, just saiyan.

Jordan · #**200** 01-19-2012, 10:21 PM

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Then you must hate Munch's oddysee then, just saiyan.

I don't agree with what you're both saying. It's generally not a good idea for a 2.5d game to have camera control because well, it's 2.5d, not fully 3D like Munch's Oddysee. However, zimfromBM was very rude in shooting your idea down.

MeechMunchie · #**201** 01-19-2012, 11:16 PM

pointless dumb useless retard member

Crashpunk · #**202** 01-19-2012, 11:20 PM

has a point smart useful genius member.

Phylum · #**203** 01-19-2012, 11:22 PM

What about the rest of him?

EDT: @MM. CP's a speedy shit.

Glitch · #**204** 01-20-2012, 12:30 AM

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I wasn't trying to be mean, I was just trying to point out things I thought were ridiculous

zimfromBM · #**205** 01-20-2012, 12:30 AM

some ideas just aren't any good.

***Xavier*** · #**206** 01-20-2012, 01:48 AM

zimfromBM if you have nothing constructive to say sometimes it's better not to speak at all.

STM · #**207** 01-20-2012, 07:01 AM

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some ideas just aren't any good.

Neither was your parents contraceptive practice. Wham.

Also...Abe HD.

LIJI · #**208** 01-20-2012, 11:42 AM

Today's GPUs can render 3D scenes in ray-tracing quality in real time. They're going to be able to handle Abe HD in a desirable quality.

***Nate*** · #**209** 01-20-2012, 03:28 PM

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It sounds like your nostalgia is making you biased. That video of Trine 2 earlier in the thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that today's realtime > 1997's prerendered in terms of fidelity and detail. Watch it in 1080 and then look at a gameplay vid of Abe's Oddysee. I don't think you have anything to be worried about.

I don't agree. I haven't played/looked at the whole game, so possibly other sections are different, but my impression from that video is that it shows high level detail, but only in close quarters. There is always a solid wall or cliff-face close behind the characters, blocking off any distant views. For me, the epic vistas are what made AO and AE, particularly in Paramonia and Scrabania. If you could only have a short draw distance, I'd be very disappointed.

Phylum · #**210** 01-20-2012, 03:33 PM

Yeah. I don't know how you're going to match that same level of depth with real-time remdering. Maybe you need a pre-rendered backdrop for some levels, with real-time 3d models up close.

However you do it, I wish you luck.