Death?

[STM]

We did, we went to a Roman Catholic school were many teachers told us genesis was real. I don't think we were taught about evolution either. I must thank this forum in a way because if I had not participated in the God debates nor listened to other peoples viewpoints about death and such. I don't think I would be questioning what I was taught when I was younger, rather I would be a different person altogether.

[Dixanadu]

Creation is 'oh so flawless'...

[STM]

One must remember that the Genesis account for creation was written at a time when man could not comprehend, nor understand any scientific explanation for his come about. Therefore a simple story was made instead covering everything the people knew existed on the Earth. I think Genesis is very much about the 'creation of man' and perhaps the seven days of creating was put in afterwards as a sort of filler for when people asked questions. I'm still not saying we are made of clay and women, a spare rib but again, it's all about a deeper meaning isn't it.

[moxco]

No.

If you're going to admit the ambiguousness to the reliability of Genesis why not go ahead and do so for the rest of the bible?

[STM]

Well because the majority of the New Testament is from the words of a man who is proven to have existed and been crucified. I admit that some of the Old Testament is open to interpretation and mixed meanings but remember the book is thousands of years old and has gone through many alterations under translation and by those who would have the Bible change meaning for their own machinations. For example, only recently the Codex Gigas was unveiled as being the life work of a monk, not a demonic masterpiece written in one night by a possessed ex-holy man.

[Manco]

Well because the majority of the New Testament is from the words of a man who is proven to have existed and been crucified.

Fucking circles.

[STM]

I have to run but this disbelief in his existence pisses me off because it's common knowledge not a shady conspiracy.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...howtopic=39332 knock yourself out.

[Dixanadu]

Look, Cthulthu got high...felt mellow and not destructive, so he thought it would be funny to write a novel called the Bible.

Bury a Harry Potter book on a developing world and you can bet by the time a sapient species rises and finds it, they'll make a religion out of it.

It's insane.

[Sekto Springs]

Trolling developing worlds?
Now that's thinking outside the box.

[Destro]

Very interesting topic, i agree. I would propably say that when we die, we would end up in our memories possibly doing some things you usually do or you end up being born at a different year with a different look and possibly personality.

[Manco]

I have to run but this disbelief in his existence pisses me off because it's common knowledge not a shady conspiracy.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...howtopic=39332 knock yourself out.

I like how you link to a one-page thread where one of the last posts raises criticisms of every single piece of "proof" mentioned in the OP.

I also like how you apparently didn't read far enough to see it.

[Strike Witch]

Also there was no year 0.

Yeah there was. That was when the dragons of Europe took the Vikings into the himalayas to battle invading insect aliens.

[Bullet Magnet]

Stop chatting with Joe's brother, it's having an effect.

[LDG519]

Creation is 'oh so flawless'...

couldn't agree with you more

I often get frustrated with people from my church who simply ignore science when it goes against the bible

[enchilado]

I often get frustrated by people who believe whatever the Bible says must be true except for the bits which get disproved.

[Dixanadu]

It's because they're so completely brainwashed by it's intrepid sputter that they're in complete denial.

The only conclusion for them is to automatically hate what proved it to be true: Science.

[Havoc]

One must remember that the Genesis account for creation was written at a time when man could not comprehend, nor understand any scientific explanation for his come about. Therefore a simple story was made instead covering everything the people knew existed on the Earth. I think Genesis is very much about the 'creation of man' and perhaps the seven days of creating was put in afterwards as a sort of filler for when people asked questions. I'm still not saying we are made of clay and women, a spare rib but again, it's all about a deeper meaning isn't it.

Holy shit, he's actually making progress. We're not quite there yet, but well on the right way. Keep it up, STM!

[STM]

=D I feel so proud.

[Bullet Magnet]

Now you can't use the Fall to explain anything bad in the world, because Adam and Eve and the Tree and the Serpent never existed. Which also means there is no original sin.

[STM]

Do you mean original sin as the first ever sin? I never really believed sin came from Adam and Eve, even when I thought that creationism might be right, i.e. when I was younger, it's in the human psyche to do wrong once in a while.

[Wings of Fire]

it's in the human psyche to do wrong once in a while.

You'll be hard pressed to find any person in history who ever did bad for the sake of it being bad.

[Bullet Magnet]

Adolescence comes to mind.

[Wings of Fire]

Adolescence is practically defined by self justification.

[Bullet Magnet]

"For the sake of being bad" is a justification. It's not a very good one, but it is used.

The psychology of it is very interesting, I'm sure. Testing boundaries and all that, maybe. The neurology is definitely interesting, in short: their brains aren't finished.

[LDG519]

I often get frustrated by people who believe whatever the Bible says must be true except for the bits which get disproved.

on many occations I have stated that I don't think the bible is 100% correct, and I belive that there could be parts that are wrong that havn't been disproved yet, I do belive that part of it is true, how can I tell which part? well I can't. I just have to use my best judgment, which can often be wrong, that's why my views may seem to change every now and then, cause I'm learning

[Strike Witch]

Righto.

Jesus really liked Parables, huh? Have they all been fully decoded or are there any that still confuse people?

[MeechMunchie]

Heaven and Hell are more or less the same thing. An eternity of anything is hell, be it pleasure or pain.

In the last chapter of The World in 10½ Chapters there's the account of a guy who goes to Heaven. To be Scary Door about it, turns out everybody eventually chooses to die permanently. They've done everything - met every person who ever lived, read every book ever written, eaten every food, watched every movie etc. - and death is all that's left to try.

Show me proof that yo mama exists!!

uh.. nvm.

Actually (at least in context 3 pages ago) that's as good an argument as any.

on many occations I have stated that I don't think the bible is 100% correct, and I belive that there could be parts that are wrong that havn't been disproved yet, I do belive that part of it is true, how can I tell which part? well I can't. I just have to use my best judgment, which can often be wrong, that's why my views may seem to change every now and then, cause I'm learning

There is hope for this one. My friend, there is never anything wrong with wanting to be more knowledgeable.

[Dixanadu]

Righto.

Jesus really liked Parables, huh? Have they all been fully decoded or are there any that still confuse people?

Usually when people are whacked on dope, they tend to mutter complete shit.

The scholars left out the 'giant fucking spliff' part.

[STM]

The Good Samaritan, brothers, at least Jesus talked peace.

[Bullet Magnet]

The Good Samaritan parable was kinda racist.