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Oooh nicely found.

I'm willing to bet "RT" stands for Real Time.
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Here's the transcript: http://i.imgur.com/CWtBFJb.jpg
For sake of convenience, I’ve converted this to plaintext:
:
..-/-./.-/-../--./-./---./.-/--/..--/...-/..../--./.-.-/.--./.../.--/.--./.-./.-/.../--./.-/---./-./-.--/.-.-/...-/..-/--/--.-/-.--/--/../..-/../-.--/--/.--./.--./.../.-.-/.--./.../.--/.--./.-./.-/.../--./.-/---./-./--.-/.-/---./-.--/-.-/.--.
This becomes:
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U N A D G N # A M # V H G <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Y <AA> V U M Q Y M I U I Y M P P S <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Q A # Y K P
The hashtags are characters the translator doesn’t recognize, usually ---. – this is actually translatable to Ö, but I’ve left it out. Also note the angle brackets, which are added by the translator to prosigns (pairs of characters which particular meaning in morse code) automatically. These may be there intentionally, or they may be irrelevant, and the repetition is simply another letter when decrypted.

And reversed:

:
.--./-.-/--.-/.---/-./-.--/.-/.---/-./.--/.../-./.-./.--./--./.../.--./-.-./.../.--./.--./--/--.-/../-../../--/--.-/-.--/--/-../-.../-.-./--.-/.-/.---/-./.--/.../-./.-./.--./--./.../.--./-.-./.--/..../-.../--../--/-./.---/.-/.--/..-/-./.-/-..
Which gives:
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P K Q J N Y A J N W S N R P G S P C S P P M Q I D I M Q Y M D B C Q A J N W S N R P G S P C W H B Z M N J A W U N A D
Note there are no unrecognized characters this time.

Neither is particularly intelligible, even if examined with a Caesar cipher. I did find this on ROT-2 with the reversed code:
:
R M S L P A C L P Y U P T R I U R E U R R O S K F K O S A O F D E S C L P Y U P T R I U R E Y J D B O P L C Y W P C F
The “C L P Y U P T R I U R E” seems to repeat, and has a resemblance to “rupture”, but that may be a coincidence.

In either case, there does seem to be some repetition in the code – a word may be repeated, or possibly the entire message is repeated several times in the audio file – they’ve done that before with a previous morse code puzzle, so it’s a possibility.

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I currently hold two theories:
  1. The reversed code is the correct format, as it holds no obvious errors in it; the message requires further decryption, possibly with a key or by shuffling the order of letters.
  2. The original code is the correct format, and the errors are intentional and have additional meaning – perhaps the # is meant to represent a space between words in the message. The code will require further decryption.
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That's some excellent work Manco... I really think you are right about your first theory.

Especially since it contains the letters to spell RUPTURE two times in the right order.

R M S L P A C L P Y U P T R I U R E U R R O S K F K O S A O F D E S C L P Y U P T R I U R E Y J D B O P L C Y W P C F

Just for fun I removed them which leaves me with:

M S L P A C L P Y R I U R O S K F K O S A O F D E S C L P Y R I Y J D B O P L C Y W P C F

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I've been lurking around a while and I've seen that you guys have found no use for the number 20 and 12.

Maybe you did, Mlg Man has noted that the morse code is in 20WPM. Maybe you would get something different if that value were changed to 12? That is, if it is even possible.

PS: Also noted that the morse code seems to come out from 3 different channels, as someone else has pointed. Maybe they are similar but not equal? Which would then mean that there are different code patterns for each channel?

Anyway, just adding my 2 cents here.
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For sake of convenience, I’ve converted this to plaintext:


This becomes:
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U N A D G N # A M # V H G <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Y <AA> V U M Q Y M I U I Y M P P S <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Q A # Y K P
The hashtags are characters the translator doesn’t recognize, usually ---. – this is actually translatable to Ö, but I’ve left it out. Also note the angle brackets, which are added by the translator to prosigns (pairs of characters which particular meaning in morse code) automatically. These may be there intentionally, or they may be irrelevant, and the repetition is simply another letter when decrypted.

And reversed:



Which gives:


Note there are no unrecognized characters this time.

Neither is particularly intelligible, even if examined with a Caesar cipher. I did find this on ROT-2 with the reversed code:

The “C L P Y U P T R I U R E” seems to repeat, and has a resemblance to “rupture”, but that may be a coincidence.

In either case, there does seem to be some repetition in the code – a word may be repeated, or possibly the entire message is repeated several times in the audio file – they’ve done that before with a previous morse code puzzle, so it’s a possibility.

--

I currently hold two theories:
  1. The reversed code is the correct format, as it holds no obvious errors in it; the message requires further decryption, possibly with a key or by shuffling the order of letters.
  2. The original code is the correct format, and the errors are intentional and have additional meaning – perhaps the # is meant to represent a space between words in the message. The code will require further decryption.
It could be an anagram?

EDIT: According to anagram solver, the solution could be "A Cab Cocksuckers Dowdily Jiff Floppy Plop Spryly Mrs". Somehow I don't think that helps us.

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For sake of convenience, I’ve converted this to plaintext:


This becomes:
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U N A D G N # A M # V H G <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Y <AA> V U M Q Y M I U I Y M P P S <AA> P S W P R A S G A # N Q A # Y K P
The hashtags are characters the translator doesn’t recognize, usually ---. – this is actually translatable to Ö, but I’ve left it out. Also note the angle brackets, which are added by the translator to prosigns (pairs of characters which particular meaning in morse code) automatically. These may be there intentionally, or they may be irrelevant, and the repetition is simply another letter when decrypted.

And reversed:



Which gives:


Note there are no unrecognized characters this time.

Neither is particularly intelligible, even if examined with a Caesar cipher. I did find this on ROT-2 with the reversed code:

The “C L P Y U P T R I U R E” seems to repeat, and has a resemblance to “rupture”, but that may be a coincidence.

In either case, there does seem to be some repetition in the code – a word may be repeated, or possibly the entire message is repeated several times in the audio file – they’ve done that before with a previous morse code puzzle, so it’s a possibility.

--

I currently hold two theories:
  1. The reversed code is the correct format, as it holds no obvious errors in it; the message requires further decryption, possibly with a key or by shuffling the order of letters.
  2. The original code is the correct format, and the errors are intentional and have additional meaning – perhaps the # is meant to represent a space between words in the message. The code will require further decryption.
I'm not at Home anymore, but if clpyuptriure repeats, maybe it holds some kind of meaning. Maybe it is the key to vigenere or some other cipher? I don't know a lot of them.
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Well as a security expert Ive tried different ways with web server.
It is running on fresh varnish and linux 3.0.
With some old tricks got only -
"Your connection to this server has been blocked by the system's firewall.

If you are seeing this notice instead of expected website contact support as soon as possible quoting thhe below information
Your blocked ip address is: "

I will continue working , found some interesting .php in this folder oddworld.com/soulstorm/1029contact/
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The feels when you wasted your time making a GIF but they already did your job for you ��
I'm gone for a few days then shit gets REAL up in this arg an updated owl page and 5 encrypted images!?
Fuck yeah!

Also seeing that Abe face emote o.0

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Also the code when unscrambleseems to be rupture clpy but what's clpy, clyp? Ceasar ciph? Ugh so much to catch up on. I want to make time for this bit
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So, here I am, joining the hunt.
Maybe if it isn't Caesar code, we could try with Vigenere.
I've tried inputting most of the morse code people are getting out of the audio file into a Vigenere decoder, but so far I've just had to guess at the key. 'Oddworld', 'Soulstorm', 'Abe'... Nothing seems to be giving an intelligible result.
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I'm pretty sure the letters obtained with the reverse morse code need to be reordered anagram style. You can write RuptureFarms and Rupture with the letters in there.

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I think I'm starting to see things that aren't there but am I the only one seeing numbers there?

https://gyazo.com/3892222661fb1c6d138be8a36b29b6f3

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If the text needs to be reordered then it will be a transposition cipher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher

The question is, which method?
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If the text needs to be reordered then it will be a transposition cipher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher

The question is, which method?
Perhaps the arrows?
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13336? Or 18886 or 13886? The middle numbers are hard to see, unless I'm seeing things too o.0

Also in the first 10-15 secs of mlg man's clip audio clip, I seem to hear what may be the weirdos or some mudokons saying "Help us Abe,
help us Abe"..
https://clyp.it/41ymleng
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13336? Or 18886 or 13886? The middle numbers are hard to see, unless I'm seeing things too o.0
I see "555"
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I see "555"
If we knew what to do with these numbers we could trail and error it and find a result *shrug*
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Perhaps the arrows?
Interesting idea – the arrows could be directions for a route cipher.
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Shouldn't we split the thread into individual puzzle threads, to avoid having threads with tens of pages? Like we did the last time
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They think it's morse code, with some kind of cypher... Can you help?
Looks like we're on the right lines
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HECK YEAH

e: wait I should add some content uhhh

mattb150 PM’d me some spectrographs of the audio – I wasn’t able to read them too well, but the spectrograph of the reversed audio seemed to match up OK with what I’d deciphered by ear:

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--.- .. --.- .-- -- .. --.- -.-- .. -.. . -- .-. .--- --.- -.. .--- .-
?
.--- .--. -.. --.- .--- -. -.-- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. ... .--. .--. -- --.- .. -.. .. -- --.- -.-- -- -.. -... -.-. --.- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. -.. .... -... --.. -- -. .--- .- .--- .- -. .- -.. ..- --
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QIQWMIQYIDEMRJQDJA

JPDQJNYAJNWSNRPGSPCSPPMQIDIMQYMDBCQAJNWSNRPGSPCDHBZMNJAJANADUM
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This is all so exciting!

Have we figured out everything from the image yet? Maybe the arrows will clues for later puzzles.

Oh! And, has anyone seen any tweets on Ed and the mysterious SPIRIT OF 1029 that might help?

Sorry if I'm just babbling unhelpful nonsense, its all so exciting!
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Lots of audio shenanigans, morse only on the right channel and some definite sections of vocals, but I am having a hard time isolating them and it seems like they are additionally processed to be harder to understand.

The vocals seem to appear twice, once towards beginning ~0:16-0:40 and again ~1:10 - 1:30 ... the segments sound similar but it is hard to tell for sure. I will try later to run analysis on the sections each in its own channel to see if they correlate, could indicate if vocals are same sample used twice or different each time.

edit: short clip which somewhat isolates the vocals but they're still not clear ; https://clyp.it/5jidyuqt

edit2: Attached better isolates of the forwards & reversed morse code spectro for comparison to by-ear decodings. These can be read as dots and dashes and contain only the right channel audio as the left channel does not have morse on it. If the WPM is constant, lines could be inserted into the image at a constant interval in order to determine word breaks.
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It's worth noting that on OWI's official update on the picture / audio progress on their site, when referring to the audio investigation progress specifically they link to Manco's post here: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=152 Where he reversed and deciphered the transcript I uploaded. If they're endorsing that post, that looks like it's the closest we've got so far. Perhaps we are just one cipher away; the question is, which is it? Perhaps one that needs the word "You" as a key?
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Guys,

Thought I should drop this here.

https://gyazo.com/fe3b10640acd6e0cadb7d6a8d8e1e77f

It's quite clear the word YOU has a meaning in all this, but who are You? You are Abe, also player. Maybe try switching the words whenever we find out which code to use.

Edit: If you follow this line of thought, you may find that Abe is the RealThreat here. (AbeRT)

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I think it's time to look over some methods we tried last year of we aren't already totally doing that right now



Also, we all know the ruined paper image is pig pen but here are pig pen charts for refrence
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This is what we've solved so far on the image portion. Still not sure if we need to solve the arrow stuff, as they say we've decoded the image
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Another thought, the fact they've added a functioning 404 page to the 1029.io site, instead of having it just redirecting you to the homepage, could perhaps mean that there are new URL's to be found on there.

I tried URL's that combine the "12" and "20" from the source code, hoping I'd find a page with a hint to a cipher or something. No luck. Things like 1029.io/1220 or 2012. I wonder how those numbers fit in.

Also, OWI just favorited my tweet about deciphering the morse, so pretty much certain there's another layer of encryption on the morse.
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So i was checking 1029_01_audio.mp3 with Audacity's Spectrogram view. This might as well be another random attempt but i think i see X1,4! or 1,4! in Spectrogram view.

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