Goddamn I hate this shit.

[Havoc]

Little hypocritical isn't it? My views on the world are wrong and yours are by default right? Or am I missing something?

You disagree with my opinions and I disagree with yours. So now what?

[OANST]

So now I know that children should be kept away from you. 'Cause she totally wanted it, dude. There's no way that if she were older and had any sense that she would shun you the way that the rest of humanity has. No way at all.

[Wings of Fire]

Was she 13?

Seriously though, most guys have been in some sort of situation where a girl's family has not approved of them. It happens.

No sir she was sixteen sir I was eighteen sir we met on the internet sir I came up to visit her in her hometown sir I wouldn't have even thought of touching her if she had been any younger sir!

[scrabface]

If someone finds out that he is a pedo, what would be your advices to him to deal the situation? because what I realized here now and everytime I have been watching telly, it is very risky to talk about this because the answer will be angry and reproachful.

[Disgruntled Intern]

Little hypocritical isn't it? My views on the world are wrong and yours are by default right? Or am I missing something?

You disagree with my opinions and I disagree with yours. So now what?

It's not even a matter of opinion. I have a moral compass. You apparently do not.

No sir she was sixteen sir I was eighteen sir we met on the internet sir I came up to visit her in her hometown sir I wouldn't have even thought of touching her if she had been any younger sir!

Tsk.

[OANST]

If someone finds out that he is a pedo, what would be your advices to him to deal the situation? because what I realized here now and everytime I have been watching telly, it is very risky to talk about this because the answer will be angry and reproachful.

Never be alone with children. There you go. Problem solved.

[MA]

If someone finds out that he is a pedo, what would be your advices to him to deal the situation? because what I realized here now and everytime I have been watching telly, it is very risky to talk about this because the answer will be angry and reproachful.

you know when you're walking down the street, and you step in some dog shit? then you spend the next 10 minutes trying to get it off? that's what its like coming across one of your posts in this thread.

[Havoc]

So now I know that children should be kept away from you. 'Cause she totally wanted it, dude. There's no way that if she were older and had any sense that she would shun you the way that the rest of humanity has. No way at all.

You don't even know me dude and it's easy to judge someone over the internet. There are a few people on this board I down right hate but who I could possibly have a drink and a good laugh with if I ever met them in real life.

You've got some weird warped image of me right now that's probably nowhere near how I really am and that's the internet for ya.

It's not even a matter of opinion. I have a moral compass. You apparently do not.

I've got one too, it's just pointing at a slightly different angle, apparently.

[Mac Sirloin]

Little hypocritical isn't it? My views on the world are wrong and yours are by default right? Or am I missing something?

You disagree with my opinions and I disagree with yours. So now what?

No, our opinions reflect common sense, yours reflect a juvenile sense of rebelliousness emerging as some kind of lame, abstract pedophilia.

We're right because what we're saying is the social standard most non pedophilic sociopaths agree is how things should go. Not because we say we are. You're wrong because what you're saying doesn't make sense and immediately hits a wall in the morality department.

No sir she was sixteen sir I was eighteen sir we met on the internet sir I came up to visit her in her hometown sir I wouldn't have even thought of touching her if she had been any younger sir!

Well that was dumb of you.

You don't even know me dude and it's easy to judge someone over the internet.

"Woah guys I'm totally normal in real life apart from believing I should be allowed to fuck minors I'm totally a cool dude, although I do have a childish fur fetish that I refuse to grow out of but apart from those two things and my inept whining about my job I SWEAR I'm okay."
Oh sure. I'd have a drink with you. Some Vodka for me and some arsenic for you. Turdburglar.

[Disgruntled Intern]

Never be alone with children. There you go. Problem solved.

I've been pretty vague about what I do for a living, but it essentially involves working with a ton of unregistered sex offenders who live in group homes. They're developmentally disabled, so they can't go to court, can't register. I have to evaluate them, their progress, track their meds, do nurse stuff and so on.

Anyway, part of the program is that they are under supervision 24/7. They cannot watch anything on TV/movies with children [or animals in some cases], can't go to public settings with high amounts of children, can have NO physical/verbal communication/contact with anyone under the age of 18, and yeah. It's something I think every single fucking sex offender should have to do.

They also have to go to therapy twice a week.

[moxco]

You don't even know me dude and it's easy to judge someone over the internet. There are a few people on this board I down right hate but who I could possibly have a drink and a good laugh with if I ever met them in real life.

You've got some weird warped image of me right now that's probably nowhere near how I really am and that's the internet for ya.

So your saying when people connect to the internet the immediately form a new personality with different opinions.

[Strike Witch]

Did Strike Witch have this title, or did a mod change it? Because it really fits the current conversation.

No, I posted this in Bits and Pieces then Nate renamed it and moved it to a new topic.

Personally, I would never even think about anybody unless they're past the legal age of consent (16 over here), and even then I'd personally judge that person before I ever did anything. Even at 18 I've seen some very immature and fragile ladies.

I've been riding school-buses for so many years that I know that girls today have no fucking idea about the things they talk about and do. It always worries me when I see them acting promiscuous and flirty with guys twice their age, because I know by their language and body language and just by looking at their eyes, they are not ready for any of this shit. But I can never stand up and say anything to them- They're not going to listen to some meek pasty jap bitch. All I can do is protect people I care about- I have two cousins I am very close with, the girl is like a kid sister to me. And if she gets to 14 and some jock fucker comes along and takes away her innocence, I'm coming after that bastard with a box-cutter.

That's all there is to it. Age is not there as some number to boast about, it really DOES mean something.

[Havoc]

We're right because what we're saying is the social standard most non pedophilic sociopaths agree is how things should go. Not because we say we are. You're wrong because what you're saying doesn't make sense and immediately hits a wall in the morality department.

That's not being right, that's being agreeing with the majority. At the end of the day nothing I say or do is meant to hurt anyone, so what exactly is the problem here? The general perception that young teens are too stupid to make an educated decision about something as simple as sex?

Lets put it this way. What if a 14 year old girl has sex with her 20 year old boyfriend. They have the time of their life, great sex and everything. They are both happy and the girl couldn't have wished for a better first time. Then a week later they break up. Exactly who got hurt in this scenario? According to parents this is the point where a young teen breaks up, crashes and burns and rebels and commits suicide. Somehow I don't think it's that dramatic.

[Wings of Fire]

Well that was dumb of you.

It's called love.

I don't pass comment on what you do, so.

[OANST]

You don't even know me dude and it's easy to judge someone over the internet. There are a few people on this board I down right hate but who I could possibly have a drink and a good laugh with if I ever met them in real life.

You've got some weird warped image of me right now that's probably nowhere near how I really am and that's the internet for ya.

There is no way that you can get on the right side of this issue for me or the vast majority of the people here, which is why I told you to shut the fuck up in the first place. I'm normally all for everyone stating their opinions, but you just don't get it. You aren't looking this objectively, and it's a subject that people take extremely seriously. Me, for instance. I take it very seriously.

Now, you know that I have been one of the only people to defend you in recent times. I think that a lot of the time your posts are met with unfair criticism. And that's the problem. You are so used to meeting this kind of aggression for every little thing that you can't tell when you are genuinely being a massive ignorant fuck. Do not talk to me about sex with children. Just don't fucking do it. Some of you always get weirded out that I become so violent at the subject and think that I'm just being a douchebag. Have we not learned that this conversation goes nowhere because I will curse, kick, scream, and stamp my feet the entire time? Just shut the fuck up about it.

[scrabface]

I've been pretty vague about what I do for a living, but it essentially involves working with a ton of unregistered sex offenders who live in group homes. They're developmentally disabled, so they can't go to court, can't register. I have to evaluate them, their progress, track their meds, do nurse stuff and so on.

Anyway, part of the program is that they are under supervision 24/7. They cannot watch anything on TV/movies with children [or animals in some cases], can't go to public settings with high amounts of children, can have NO physical/verbal communication/contact with anyone under the age of 18, and yeah. It's something I think every single fucking sex offender should have to do.

They also have to go to therapy twice a week.

ok but you are talking about sex offenders. but what about people who feel attracted to kids but haven't done anything yet? p.e. there are a lot of people reading lolicons in japan, hard to tell if every one of them is a pedo, but, the number of violation against children is very low against most other countries. think a step ahead

[Disgruntled Intern]

That's not being right, that's being agreeing with the majority. At the end of the day nothing I say or do is meant to hurt anyone, so what exactly is the problem here? The general perception that young teens are too stupid to make an educated decision about something as simple as sex?

Lets put it this way. What if a 14 year old girl has sex with her 20 year old boyfriend. They have the time of their life, great sex and everything. They are both happy and the girl couldn't have wished for a better first time. Then a week later they break up. Exactly who got hurt in this scenario? According to parents this is the point where a young teen breaks up, crashes and burns and rebels and commits suicide. Somehow I don't think it's that dramatic.

You realize that sex isn't really simple, right? Crack open a psychology book sometime soon, please. I'd be willing to send you a few, free of charge. I have loads.

And stop with the extreme examples. No one said this hypothetical girl would kill herself. Is she now set up to make a series of horrible decisions? You bet. We're like baby ducks. We imprint. Not just from a young age, but continually. That's why first impressions are so important to us. The same goes for first experiences.

[OANST]

ok but you are talking about sex offenders. but what about people who feel attracted to kids but haven't done anything yet? p.e. there are a lot of people reading lolicons in japan, hard to tell if every one of them is a pedo, but, the number of violation against children is very low against most other countries. think a step ahead

How many times do we have to tell you that no one cares about this? We are only interested in those that attempt or succeed in having sex with children. Seriously, your question has been answered multiple times. Can you shut the fuck up about it now?

[Mac Sirloin]

That's not being right, that's being agreeing with the majority. At the end of the day nothing I say or do is meant to hurt anyone, so what exactly is the problem here? The general perception that young teens are too stupid to make an educated decision about something as simple as sex?

Lets put it this way. What if a 14 year old girl has sex with her 20 year old boyfriend. They have the time of their life, great sex and everything. They are both happy and the girl couldn't have wished for a better first time. Then a week later they break up. Exactly who got hurt in this scenario? According to parents this is the point where a young teen breaks up, crashes and burns and rebels and commits suicide. Somehow I don't think it's that dramatic.

Okay, first of all, you quoted the part of my post that was Derisive Hyperbole, so right from the get-go you fucked up. Read the second half, dipshit.

It's called love.

I don't pass comment on what you do, so.

Take a walk, you turkey.

[Havoc]

There is no way that you can get on the right side of this issue for me or the vast majority of the people here, which is why I told you to shut the fuck up in the first place. I'm normally all for everyone stating their opinions, but you just don't get it. You aren't looking this objectively, and it's a subject that people take extremely seriously. Me, for instance. I take it very seriously.

Now, you know that I have been one of the only people to defend you in recent times. I think that a lot of the time your posts are met with unfair criticism. And that's the problem. You are so used to meeting this kind of aggression for every little thing that you can't tell when you are genuinely being a massive ignorant fuck. Do not talk to me about sex with children. Just don't fucking do it. Some of you always get weirded out that I become so violent at the subject and think that I'm just being a douchebag. Have we not learned that this conversation goes nowhere because I will curse, kick, scream, and stamp my feet the entire time? Just shut the fuck up about it.

I don't know if I am objective in this. One of my earliest sexual experiences was that encounter everyone apparently hates me for and I thought it was great, so did she. I had absolutely no negative backlash about it from anyone around so yeah maybe it grew onto me as a relatively normal thing.

However you as a parent aren't exactly objective either, obviously. And I fully understand your reaction, I might react the same if I ever have kids, I don't know. It's a delicate subject, yes. But IMO we should be able to talk about it in a civil manner and try to look at each others points of view. I'm trying to do so, just don't see a lot of other people making the same effort.

You may hate the subject OANST but you're going to be faced with this at some point. Kicking and screaming isn't going to do anyone any good when your daughter gets older and brings home her first boyfriend.

Is she now set up to make a series of horrible decisions? You bet.

See, that I don't get. How does losing your virginity early influence the rest of your life at all? She might get a little more open minded about sex. If that's all then it's really a non-issue.

[OANST]

I've been pretty vague about what I do for a living, but it essentially involves working with a ton of unregistered sex offenders who live in group homes. They're developmentally disabled, so they can't go to court, can't register. I have to evaluate them, their progress, track their meds, do nurse stuff and so on.

Anyway, part of the program is that they are under supervision 24/7. They cannot watch anything on TV/movies with children [or animals in some cases], can't go to public settings with high amounts of children, can have NO physical/verbal communication/contact with anyone under the age of 18, and yeah. It's something I think every single fucking sex offender should have to do.

They also have to go to therapy twice a week.

I meant non sex offenders. Those that are attracted to children but have never acted on it and never intend to.

[OANST]

I don't know if I am objective in this. One of my earliest sexual experiences was that encounter everyone apparently hates me for and I thought it was great, so did she. I had absolutely no negative backlash about it from anyone around so yeah maybe it grew onto me as a relatively normal thing.

However you as a parent aren't exactly objective either, obviously. And I fully understand your reaction, I might react the same if I ever have kids, I don't know. It's a delicate subject, yes. But IMO we should be able to talk about it in a civil manner and try to look at each others points of view. I'm trying to do so, just don't see a lot of other people making the same effort.

You may hate the subject OANST but you're going to be faced with this at some point. Kicking and screaming isn't going to do anyone any good when your daughter gets older and brings home her first boyfriend.

Do not presume to tell me what I should or should not expect out of my child or parenting experience. Your desire to fuck under age teens has no bearing on it. Shut the fuck up.

And if you mean that I will invariably be faced with an adult trying to fuck my daughter while she is still a child then brother, let me tell you, you have a very skewed idea of society, and even if that was true, that person would leave this world shortly after. I'll go to jail. I can resign myself to that.

[Disgruntled Intern]

I doubt her first boyfriend will be six years older than her.

[Havoc]

I doubt her first boyfriend will be six years older than her.

Good, because that wasn't the point.

[OANST]

Good, because that wasn't the point.

Then what is the point? Do you think I am unaware that kids have sex? I'm aware. Trust me. I just don't want them having sex with you, fucktard.

[Havoc]

Well I have no interest in that so we can both be happy now.

And the point was that you may be aware that kids have sex but that you don't want to consider that your daughter will someday be one of them. The idea that you can't do anything about when that is is freaking you out.

[Disgruntled Intern]

Oh man. Why do you keep talking about his daughter? If you feel the need to beat a dead horse, for fucks sake, generalize.

[Mac Sirloin]

And the point was that you may be aware that kids have sex but that you don't want to consider that your daughter will someday be one of them. The idea that you can't do anything about when that is is freaking you out.

Havoc thinks he can parent better than OANST.

[Havoc]

I don't like beating dead horses. I'll take live tigers.

Havoc thinks he can parent better than OANST.

Just making an observation.

[MA]

oh god, Havoc. just stop. you lost the game. you go home with nothing. whatever. just go away.