SoulStorm ARG - Spirit of 1029 - Photo 2 -

GlitterPanther · #**121** 02-03-2017, 12:04 AM

Im really struggling to find anything
I thought maybe the dots and dashes between numbers meant something, or the slashes at the end and start of numbers.

Im so discouraged ATM

I think they are using a grille cipher

Like this

But cutting out the squears that are highlighted here

The issue is finding what words to write into the grid

So I took E=5OUEHRA and put that across the boxes,
Filled in the letters and got VIWTRUIUGY which Quippup says is "Atrocities"

dawlthy · #**122** 02-03-2017, 12:46 AM

Thought adding the numbers to the grid according to their coordinates would help.

It didn't help me much, was thinking it might be a Sudoku style grid, but obviously not.

The numbers in red are from the first line of coordinates, the green are the second line, blue from the third line and black from the last.

I assumed coordinate 1,1 would be the top left, even that could be wrong

GlitterPanther · #**123** 02-03-2017, 01:14 AM

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Thought adding the numbers to the grid according to their coordinates would help.

It didn't help me much, was thinking it might be a Sudoku style grid, but obviously not.

The numbers in red are from the first line of coordinates, the green are the second line, blue from the third line and black from the last.

I assumed coordinate 1,1 would be the top left, even that could be wrong

Dont give up, we could be onto something here!

But the way a grill works is that the piece you place over all the letters singles out certain letter that when rearranged make a word.

Sometimes it even has to be rotated apparently.

dawlthy · #**124** 02-03-2017, 02:07 AM

Looks like my image in the previous post is sometimes not showing, or is that just me?

Anyway couldn't get further with that so looking at a completely different part now.

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A9539 \\
B2919 /\\
C4882 /\
D4627 \
E6758 \
F???? ////

I think this could be a puzzle like the mastermind game, also called cows and bulls apparently. In this case I think a \ means there is a correct number but in the wrong position, and a / means there is a number in the correct position. Using this logic I have worked out F8992. I have to go to work now so I haven't tested this on the other puzzle in the source code.

EDIT:
Really should be at work but had to test the theory on the second puzzle, this one

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A5989 \\
B5176 \
C2863 \
D2558 //\
E3413 \
F???? ////

It works here too so I think I'm right, the solution to this one is F8554.

Edited: corrected the answer to the second puzzle

STM · #**125** 02-03-2017, 03:02 AM

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Dont give up, we could be onto something here!

But the way a grill works is that the piece you place over all the letters singles out certain letter that when rearranged make a word.

Sometimes it even has to be rotated apparently.

You probably need to actually solve the puzzle first before you can use it as a grille tool. I.e. shuffle the logo around until it looks right.

GlitterPanther · #**126** 02-03-2017, 03:11 AM

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You probably need to actually solve the puzzle first before you can use it as a grille tool. I.e. shuffle the logo around until it looks right.

Probably, but then we'd need more text to fill the boxes and I havent afinished clue what to put there.

I had another thought, what if the numbers with the . , and : symbols represent time stamps for a audio or video clip

Dawlthy, thats amazing, have you tried applying it to the longer string of numbers?

dawlthy · #**127** 02-03-2017, 03:18 AM

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You probably need to actually solve the puzzle first before you can use it as a grille tool. I.e. shuffle the logo around until it looks right.

You're probable right about that, but I suspect the cut-outs on the grille are determined by the coordinates I used to make the image above. This is how I formatted them to read easier.

/\//\\//
5,1 : 4.
1,2 : 8.
1,3 : 2.
3,3 : 2.
4,3 : 3.
7,3 : 3.
1,5 : 3.
4,5 : 9.
5,5 : 2.
7,5 : 4.
7,6 : 6.
3,7 : 3.
12 Coordinates

\\\\/\
2,1 : 2.
3,1 : 2.
6,1 : 4.
1,2 : 4.
3,2 : 2.
3,4 : 4.
5,5 : 2.
6,5 : 3.
7,5 : 3.
4,7 : 8.
5,7 : 3.
7,6 : 4.
12 Coordinates

\///\//\
1,1 : 3.
4,1 : 2.
6,1 : 9.
2,2 : 2.
6,2 : 2.
2,4 : 4.
3,5 : 2.
5,5 : 2.
7,5 : 3.
4,7 : 3.
6,7 : 2.
7,7 : 2.
12 Coordinates

\\//\\\/
4,2 : 6.
6,2 : 4.
7,3 : 3.
2,4 : 8.
3,4 : 2.
4,4 : 2.
7,4 : 3.
2,6 : 2.
4,6 : 3.
6,6 : 2.
1,7 : 4.
3,7 : 2.
12 Coordinates

It seems far to coincidental that we have four sets of coordinates and four long lines of letters. I'm thinking we need to make four different grilles using these, and then use the four lines of letters as the grid of letters underneath.

Just putting my thoughts out there incase it helps anyone else.

And yes i am posting at work

EDIT:

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Dawlthy, thats amazing, have you tried applying it to the longer string of numbers?

Ha thanks, but it just happened to be the first thing that I thought of seeing those, and it happened to be right. The problem with applying it to the longer strings is that you need a few different combinations to narrow down the correct answer. There is only one combination for each string so I think we need to do something to the numbers first, and then use the method i used above on the result. Maybe.

EDIT2:
Another thought, all the numbers after the : that follows the coordinate are either 2,3,4,6,8 or 9 with the higher numbers less frequent. There is no 1,5 or 7. Not sure how this helps, but maybe they show the size/shape of the cutout in the grille.

GlitterPanther · #**128** 02-03-2017, 03:51 AM

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You're probable right about that, but I suspect the cut-outs on the grille are determined by the coordinates I used to make the image above. This is how I formatted them to read easier.

/\//\\//
5,1 : 4.
1,2 : 8.
1,3 : 2.
3,3 : 2.
4,3 : 3.
7,3 : 3.
1,5 : 3.
4,5 : 9.
5,5 : 2.
7,5 : 4.
7,6 : 6.
3,7 : 3.
12 Coordinates

\\\\/\
2,1 : 2.
3,1 : 2.
6,1 : 4.
1,2 : 4.
3,2 : 2.
3,4 : 4.
5,5 : 2.
6,5 : 3.
7,5 : 3.
4,7 : 8.
5,7 : 3.
7,6 : 4.
12 Coordinates

\///\//\
1,1 : 3.
4,1 : 2.
6,1 : 9.
2,2 : 2.
6,2 : 2.
2,4 : 4.
3,5 : 2.
5,5 : 2.
7,5 : 3.
4,7 : 3.
6,7 : 2.
7,7 : 2.
12 Coordinates

\\//\\\/
4,2 : 6.
6,2 : 4.
7,3 : 3.
2,4 : 8.
3,4 : 2.
4,4 : 2.
7,4 : 3.
2,6 : 2.
4,6 : 3.
6,6 : 2.
1,7 : 4.
3,7 : 2.
12 Coordinates

It seems far to coincidental that we have four sets of coordinates and four long lines of letters. I'm thinking we need to make four different grilles using these, and then use the four lines of letters as the grid of letters underneath.

Just putting my thoughts out there incase it helps anyone else.

And yes i am posting at work

EDIT:

Ha thanks, but it just happened to be the first thing that I thought of seeing those, and it happened to be right. The problem with applying it to the longer strings is that you need a few different combinations to narrow down the correct answer. There is only one combination for each string so I think we need to do something to the numbers first, and then use the method i used above on the result. Maybe.

EDIT2:
Another thought, all the numbers after the : that follows the coordinate are either 2,3,4,6,8 or 9 with the higher numbers less frequent. There is no 1,5 or 7. Not sure how this helps, but maybe they show the size/shape of the cutout in the grille.

Or.... one? two? 12x12 grids, which would make a sudoku grid

Also the missing numbers, 157 spell AEG. Make that AGE
Could be that the letters need be left right every 1 letter

Im gonna post my.scrawlings from earlier

Also odd posted a new pic, Number 1 really.large inside the 1029 logo, also its really.different.

And some weird text down here on the bag

Definetly text

Another pic on twitter with a new words

Theres also some strange effects around the bottom of the Glukkons bottom lip

OWI_Alex · #**129** 02-03-2017, 05:41 AM

Hey guys. Checking in to see if we can help.

Gunnr · #**130** 02-03-2017, 05:56 AM

Looks like there's a 5 and a 7 in the logo

And goodmorning! wow you guys got alot of interesting stuff!

***Xavier*** · #**131** 02-03-2017, 06:00 AM

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Hey guys. Checking in to see if we can help.

I don't know... can you?

Vanilla ✜ · #**132** 02-03-2017, 06:13 AM

Curious as to the name change of the Oddworld Twitter account.

pulquerio · #**133** 02-03-2017, 06:22 AM

Hello guys.

I'm new at the forum, and i'm trying to solve those puzzles too.
As far as I know, those that had been solved are:
• The braile text;
• The pigpen cipher;
• The morse code.

I'm trying to solve the arrow puzzle. This is wat i've got:

1st: Assuming the line to the right of the arrows means a line of text, we can flip the image 90 degrees to the right.

2nd: Using an alphabeth circle, we could find some letters.

3rd: We can get a cryptogram to be solved.

Solving that cryptogram we get those two options:

• VERVE EXECUTIONS
• VERVE EXEMPTIONS

I dont know if its right or not. This is what ive solved from that puzzle.

Sorry for my bad english. :/

***Xavier*** · #**134** 02-03-2017, 06:28 AM

Hi pulquerio, welcome to the forums.

emmarose has solved the arrow codes as you can see here below

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Ok, so I know this seems a little extravagant, but I may have cracked the arrow code...

When converting the protractor measurements for the arrows on image 2 to their alphanumeric values by removing the last digit - always 0 (since A-Z=0-25) I get:

7 14 9 8 20 25 18 5 22 5 5 4 15 3 5 4
H O J I U Z S F W F F E P D F E

Which when shifted 25 spaces with a Caesar cipher returns:

gnihtyreve edoced

Which when reversed reads as:

Decode Everything

I'll see if I can apply the same thing to the arrows on that cleaned up document?

V_O_T · #**135** 02-03-2017, 07:11 AM

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Hey guys. Checking in to see if we can help.

Sure! whats this symbol mean?

Is it Elum related?

Vince · #**136** 02-03-2017, 07:12 AM

As far as we know, we have solved everything (including the grid image puzzle) up until source code for the http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...yshowthetruth/ site.

Press F12 (Chrome) to access it, or revert back to one of the previous comments for the whole thing.

I'm pretty sure we haven't solved anything in it yet.

Correction: We have *most likely* solved the 'mastermind' puzzle, which is the list of A1234, up to F????.

I don't think we know what to do with them yet though.

dawlthy · #**137** 02-03-2017, 07:16 AM

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I'm pretty sure we haven't solved anything in it yet.

Except for the mastermind type puzzle, although I don't see were it fits in. It's probably just a step to find the correct method for solving the other puzzles. I know it's not much but it might have got missed with all the other stuff that got found.

kjjcarpenter · #**138** 02-03-2017, 07:20 AM

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Sure! whats this symbol mean?

Is it Elum related?

It's inspired by RuptureFarms. Hence, the Spirit of 1029.

Mr. Molluck · #**139** 02-03-2017, 07:23 AM

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Sure! whats this symbol mean?

Is it Elum related?

I believe the symbol represents the RuptureFarms factory design we see in New n Tasty, with the spikes around and within it representing flames. As this is the resistance group's logo, and from what I've read on the forums on one thread, that the resistance might be made up of Mudokons freed from RuptureFarms or inspired by the breakout/rebellion, this logo then represents a failed Glukkon business, meant to stand-in for all Glukkon businesses, with the flames around it representing the destructive power the Mudokons within and without can have on them.

***Xavier*** · #**140** 02-03-2017, 07:23 AM

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As far as we know, we have solved everything (including the grid image puzzle) up until source code for the http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...yshowthetruth/ site.

Yes we solved all the codes displayed on the picture.

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I'm pretty sure we haven't solved anything in it yet.

Well dawlthy has a pretty convincing lead here:

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=124

Vince · #**141** 02-03-2017, 07:28 AM

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Well dawlthy has a pretty convincing lead here:

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=124

Good point, forgot about that.

We were told to... Know our codes and keep them close?
Are these our codes?

GlitterPanther · #**142** 02-03-2017, 07:41 AM

Love how everyone just skipped over everypiece of new evidence I found even when I has proof with photos.

Ill try decoding it then.

Sorry, ignore me. I worked hard to bring all that info together. And I stayed up especially.

Vince · #**143** 02-03-2017, 07:44 AM

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Love how everyone just skipped over everypiece of new evidence I found even when I has proof with photos.

Ill try decoding it then.

Isn't a sudoku grid typically 9x9?

Atm, I'm just going over Dalwthy's working out.
I've got the same answer for the first F value being F8992.

The second F value is definitely F8554.

Dawlthy has definitely worked it out. We just need to apply them.

dawlthy · #**144** 02-03-2017, 07:54 AM

Actually that second solution you found is ruled out. Y the line
D2558 //\
If your solution was correct it would have to be
D2558 ///
As there would be three cars there in the right place

Vince · #**145** 02-03-2017, 07:59 AM

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Actually that second solution you found is ruled out. Y the line
D2558 //\
If your solution was correct it would have to be
D2558 ///
As there would be three cars there in the right place

Yeah, just realised this whilst editing my comment

Also:

8992 = HIIB
8554 = HEED
(Placement of letters in the alphabet)

I thought I was onto something with 'Heed' but then realised the first one doesn't make a word ahah

Hiibheed in quipquip gives us the word 'Annually'

Manco · #**146** 02-03-2017, 08:02 AM

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Love how everyone just skipped over everypiece of new evidence I found even when I has proof with photos.

Ill try decoding it then.

Sorry, ignore me. I worked hard to bring all that info together. And I stayed up especially.

Hey don’t worry too much about it – right now everyone is kinda grasping at straws, so until someone hits on a promising lead there’s not going to be much comment on individual theories.

For what it’s worth, I thought the grille cipher you mentioned seems like an idea worth exploring further.

Havoc · #**147** 02-03-2017, 08:08 AM

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It's inspired by RuptureFarms. Hence, the Spirit of 1029.

I hadn't even made that comparison yet. Nice.

dawlthy · #**148** 02-03-2017, 08:13 AM

Sorry GlitterPanther, didn't mean to sound like I was ignoring all you'd done either, I just don't think we've got the step before done yet, and then what you've found will be very helpful. And really the same can be said for what I've done too, I think we're just missing something in between at the moment.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, I'm used to being wrong

GlitterPanther · #**149** 02-03-2017, 08:21 AM

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Sorry GlitterPanther, didn't mean to sound like I was ignoring all you'd done either, I just don't think we've got the step before done yet, and then what you've found will be very helpful. And really the same can be said for what I've done too, I think we're just missing something in between at the moment.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, I'm used to being wrong

Yeah, probably. Sorry. Lack of sleep :/
Sorry everyone.

I wondered if the numbers could be weight measurements and be placed on a measurement chart, but I think thats a bit far

pulquerio · #**150** 02-03-2017, 08:23 AM

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Hi pulquerio, welcome to the forums.

emmarose has solved the arrow codes as you can see here below

DECODE EVERYTHING does fit on my criptogram too!
That means i've almost solved the puzzle