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Mac the Janitor · #91 07-09-2004, 02:33 PM

Haha, I like the bringing back of the old-school banner oddguy.

Codek, you are definitely the right guy for FS&H, you have my vote fo sho *thumbs up*

Sekto Springs · #92 07-09-2004, 03:51 PM

I made that banner for him. I rock.

oddguy · #93 07-09-2004, 04:12 PM

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Haha, I like the bringing back of the old-school banner oddguy.

I had it saved for a rainy day. I knew I'd be able to bring it back...someday.
Yeah, SS did a tanfasmic job making it.

Oy...I don't know who to vote for OT mod. I like all of the nominees!

-oddguy

Sekto Springs · #94 07-09-2004, 04:16 PM

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Oy...I don't know who to vote for OT mod. I like all of the nominees!

You know you don't have to vote.

Mac the Janitor · #95 07-09-2004, 04:58 PM

Where are we voting?

And does this even have the approval of any admins, or did we all just decide to make new official mods on our own...?

Sekto Springs · #96 07-09-2004, 05:19 PM

Abe Babe hasn't given us the 'OK' yet, but she's usually pretty flexible about these things and were overdue for a new election.

Hobo · #97 07-09-2004, 10:04 PM

oh yeah, Peter told me that if there's a new election there will definatly be rule changes.

Those discussed included:

No campaigning allowed other than a short speech about why. No doing what Oddguy did last time and going stupidly overboard even making a website about it. Bad oddguy.

Minimum time you've been a member or min posts/day or min. posts.

I can't remember the rest. So blang.

Codek · #98 07-09-2004, 11:12 PM

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Haha, I like the bringing back of the old-school banner oddguy.

Codek, you are definitely the right guy for FS&H, you have my vote fo sho *thumbs up*

Hey thanks man.

Wow, looks like I might actually be getting the FS&H spot. That would rule. Especially since I like to help so much, that would be the ultimate forum for me to moderate. I really hope Abe Babe will let me moderate there.

Fez · #99 07-09-2004, 11:19 PM

Come on people, vote Fez for NOA&L!

SeaRex without a doubt deserves a place as mod though. He deserves to be be mod of NOA&L much more then I do.

Facsimile · #**100** 07-10-2004, 12:17 AM

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No campaigning allowed other than a short speech about why. No doing what Oddguy did last time and going stupidly overboard even making a website about it. Bad oddguy.

Yeah. That's what put me off even bothering to vote. It pissed me off so much.

Codek · #**101** 07-10-2004, 12:43 AM

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Yeah. That's what put me off even bothering to vote. It pissed me off so much.

It was a bit over the top wasn't it. That's why I think this year we should just avoid it completely. Let Abe Babe decide, based on what has been said in this thread.

There is a lot to decide though. There are quite a few nominees for OT. Nominations for the OT moderators wouldn't be a bad idea, since there are so many. But I'm not really sure whether the people of OWF are really qualified to decide who moderates and who doesn't. A lot of them hold stupid grudges and might pass off good mods.

EDIT: Hehe, I just can't resist seeing what this will look like.

Codek

FS&H Moderator
Formerly Death

Fez · #**102** 07-10-2004, 01:07 AM

Hey Death, can you make one of those thingys for me? So I can see what it would look like. Give me a fitting custom title.

Codek · #**103** 07-10-2004, 01:43 AM

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Hey Death, can you make one of those thingys for me? So I can see what it would look like. Give me a fitting custom title.

Sure.

ferill Male

NOAL Moderator
Captain Capgun

Facsimile · #**104** 07-10-2004, 01:48 AM

Yeah me too:

Hobo · #**105** 07-10-2004, 02:08 AM

Facs. I love you. And that picture.

I nominate Facsimile for OT.

Sekto Springs · #**106** 07-10-2004, 03:52 AM

I'm still staying secretive about my voting plans. I'm guessing it will be in Poll form, that way we can vote privately, I personally wasn't all that for last year's system (mainly because I wasn't here).
I think it would be funny if PA returned and saw I was a mod in his forum, I'd laugh!

Codek · #**107** 07-10-2004, 03:55 AM

I'm going to run a preliminary test poll in FS&H. Drop by and leave your vote.

***Alcar*** · #**108** 07-10-2004, 04:51 AM

Basically, the topic of new Moderators had been discussed before I left a week ago between Abe Babe and myself. Elections for Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature will take place sometime in the forseeable future. All other forums, do not need new Moderators.

It is not the member's place to run Administrative tasks. I'd appreciate it if the members would be members, and leave the Administrative side of things to those that run the Administrative side of things. Sure, you can suggest, but it ends there. It's funny to see that you'd do it during my absence, I'm sure it was no coincidence.

Alcar...

Codek · #**109** 07-10-2004, 05:07 AM

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Basically, the topic of new Moderators had been discussed before I left a week ago between Abe Babe and myself. Elections for Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature will take place sometime in the forseeable future. All other forums, do not need new Moderators.

It is not the member's place to run Administrative tasks. I'd appreciate it if the members would be members, and leave the Administrative side of things to those that run the Administrative side of things. Sure, you can suggest, but it ends there. It's funny to see that you'd do it during my absence, I'm sure it was no coincidence.

Alcar...

I don't know why we all bother with being so constructive really. You clearly haven't taken any of what we said into consideration.

***Alcar*** · #**110** 07-10-2004, 05:25 AM

I explained that Abe Babe and myself already discussed this issue before you even posted this thread. We saw no reason for any other forum, other than Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature to need any new Moderators.

It's great that you want to initiate things, but how about initiating things you CAN properly initiate. Or, rather, PM the both of us with ideas such as this, before posting them. This is something you don't start yourself.

Alcar...

Codek · #**111** 07-10-2004, 05:29 AM

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I explained that Abe Babe and myself already discussed this issue before you even posted this thread. We saw no reason for any other forum, other than Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature to need any new Moderators.

It's great that you want to initiate things, but how about initiating things you CAN properly initiate. Or, rather, PM the both of us with ideas such as this, before posting them. This is something you don't start yourself.

Alcar...

You don't see any reason, I did. I posted the reasons here. Everyone else seemed to agree.

Why don't you have a read through them and give it some serious thought.

Sekto Springs · #**112** 07-10-2004, 05:29 AM

Man, we're treated as if we're low. Pushing the old "Know your place!" down on us.

Fez · #**113** 07-10-2004, 05:49 AM

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Sure.

ferill Male

NOAL Moderator
Captain Capgun

Thats great, I love the custom title.

***Alcar*** · #**114** 07-10-2004, 05:53 AM

I posted our reasons as well. We don't see any need for Moderators other than those in Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature. Elections for those two forums will begin sometime in the forseeable future.

As for the "know your place" stuff. Could you explain what is wrong with that? Or is it the case of shear jealousy? For an example. I am enlisted in the Australian Army Cadets. I am of Full Corporal rank. That is, considering, fairly low. I have three ranks above me, not mentioning Adult Officers. I do what the higher ranks command. I want to progress to the higher ranks, and in due time I will continue up the rank ladder. But I still do what I'm told. Every time at Cadets you are reminded of the rank structure, and your place in that structure.

Get over it. You're the members. I was once a member, and I remember being full of energy and ideas. Well, as long as they don't impede on the normal workings of the forums (which clearly, starting up your own elections, when we do that ourselves) is fine.

Alcar...

***Wil*** · #**115** 07-10-2004, 06:29 AM

Hmm, comparing the Forums to military rankings seems a bit OTT, Alcar. In fact, I'm kinda siding with some of what Codek (heh, typed Death) says, here. If Stranger is released in Spring 2005, then it won't be a vast number of months before I'm off to Holland. It's obviously impossible to speculate this far in advance, but I should think GD will still be very busy at that time. Another moderator for GD, one from an American time zone, would be great if things got much busier than they have been (though I say that having come from a whole week of new posts).

I can't really speak for any other Forum, though. I see no reason why a mod of FS&H needs to be part of the Admin team - TPTB will read what's said and respond to it in any case. It's not as if being a mod of this forum will suddenly give you the ability to cause OWFwide havoc.

Codek · #**116** 07-10-2004, 07:13 AM

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Hmm, comparing the Forums to military rankings seems a bit OTT, Alcar. In fact, I'm kinda siding with some of what Codek (heh, typed Death) says, here. If Stranger is released in Spring 2005, then it won't be a vast number of months before I'm off to Holland. It's obviously impossible to speculate this far in advance, but I should think GD will still be very busy at that time. Another moderator for GD, one from an American time zone, would be great if things got much busier than they have been (though I say that having come from a whole week of new posts).

I can't really speak for any other Forum, though. I see no reason why a mod of FS&H needs to be part of the Admin team - TPTB will read what's said and respond to it in any case. It's not as if being a mod of this forum will suddenly give you the ability to cause OWFwide havoc.

My points exactly.

We may not need these mods now, but we will pretty soon. The second stranger is released, there will be way more activity here than the current system can cater for.

And hey, if it turns out we don't need the extra mods, why not keep them on anyway? It can never hurt to have a few extra people making sure everything is the way it should be.

Alcar, please don't feel like we are doing your job for you, and say things like you want us to just be "members" - that sounds increadibly facist and idealist. This is the forum suggestions and help section, and we're making a suggestion. We are as much as you allow us to be, and frankly I think you're deliberately restricting us from making suggestions like these because you think it's putting you out of the job.

There is another way. A much easier way.

Sekto Springs · #**117** 07-10-2004, 07:18 AM

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My points exactly.

We may not need these mods now, but we will pretty soon. The second stranger is released, there will be way more activity here than the current system can cater for.

And hey, if it turns out we don't need the extra mods, why not keep them on anyway? It can never hurt to have a few extra people making sure everything is the way it should be.

Alcar, please don't feel like we are doing your job for you, and say things like you want us to just be "members" - that sounds increadibly facist and idealist. This is the forum suggestions and help section, and we're making a suggestion. We are as much as you allow us to be, and frankly I think you're deliberately restricting us from making suggestions like these because you think it's putting you out of the job.

There is another way. A much easier way.

Well spoken, mate. Said like a true mod.

oddguy · #**118** 07-10-2004, 09:00 AM

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No campaigning allowed other than a short speech about why. No doing what Oddguy did last time and going stupidly overboard even making a website about it. Bad oddguy.

Yeah...that was over-the-top!

I wasn't planning on doing it again. Just brought back the banner. That's all. But...I removed it after Alcar shot down the idea of new mods.

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Yeah. That's what put me off even bothering to vote. It pissed me off so much.

Well, that's behind us I hope. I'd be annoyed if people were still holding a grudge against me over something stupid I did in the past.

-oddguy

Hobo · #**119** 07-10-2004, 09:16 AM

Bah, fair enough Peter. I still love you.

***Alcar*** · #**120** 07-10-2004, 02:12 PM

I understand that we will have a huge rush of new members during the pre-release of Stranger, the release of Stranger, and the post-release of Stranger. However, what is the difference between that, and the rush concerning Munch's Oddysee?

As far as I remember, no new Moderators were elected for the upcoming rush, other than the Spoiler Forum Moderator (which meant General Discussion was included). If the number of Moderators we had back then was smaller than the amount we have today, why should I worry any more than reason? When the rush occurs, both Abe Babe and myself will be on hand more often. Especially seeing as we will have to contend with updating our Oddworld websites a great deal more than at current.

If we feel new Moderators are needed for any other forums, which, as I've said, we have already discussed, and we don't (other than Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature) then we will discuss it, and see if it is a viable solution to our problems. I understand you are thinking of the future, but then so am I, except I'm using the past to help me.

We do not want extra Moderators for the sake of having a few extras to help with small tasks. If you feel so strongly about it, why not just help out now, instead of petitioning for Moderatorship. You seem to think that being a Moderator will instantly make you help people. That may be so for a month, but if you're not willing to do it as a member, I can for sure see that you won't do it as a Moderator.

The forums for election stand at Fan Corner and Non-Oddworld Art & Literature. The elections will begin sometime soon. If you have something constructive to say, please reply, but if it is the same old wish-wash, keep it to yourself, I won't bother repeating myself for the fifth time.

Alcar...