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Why were people so pissed off over MO? Its my favorite game in the whole bloody series and I've literally played, in hours, at least a day and a half of my life in MO. Its a bloody genius game. Okay, so the PS2 gets Stranger also, that doesn't mean it is the better buy. I will give you that PS2 has a deeper library of games right now but Christ, an Xbox is worth a purchase just for the Halo, KOTOR, Mechwarrior, and Metal Slug series alone, not to mention its online support beats the PANTS off of the PS2's. Both systems are top notch and I highly reccomend buying an Xbox if you have a PS2 and buying a PS2 if you have an Xbox.
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06-29-2004, 08:08 AM
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Why were people so pissed off over MO? Its my favorite game in the whole bloody series and I've literally played, in hours, at least a day and a half of my life in MO.
It is absolutely my favourite game also. I have gotten many hours of replay and only found it's 3D environments only improved on an already beautiful world with beautiful creatures!!!

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an Xbox is worth a purchase just for the Halo, KOTOR, Mechwarrior, and Metal Slug series alone, not to mention its online support beats the PANTS off of the PS2's.
Plus, if you're interested in online gaming...well Xbox Live is far superior IMO. Just the interface alone..plus the support, the set-up now with MSN messenger...well no other console holds a candle to that!
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06-29-2004, 02:43 PM
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It's online support is so great because you have to pay an annual fee for it.
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It's online support is so great because you have to pay an annual fee for it.
Yeah, but with PS2 you have to buy an extra part to make it internet ready. Xbox has an ethernet plug built in.

I own all the current systems and I love them all. I'm not a guy who just gives loyalties to one console...that's stupid.

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06-29-2004, 07:48 PM
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no it's not........i'd jump out the window if a PS2 or a gamecube was in my house
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06-30-2004, 04:01 AM
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It's online support is so great because you have to pay an annual fee for it.
Um yeah....excellent support like that isn't going to come for free, but except for one game that I know of...online play with Live enabled games are free. It's all rolled into the monthly fee.

If I'm not mistaken, do you not have to pay an individual fee for alot (if not most) PS2 games you want to play online? Pretty sure I've seen that stated over and over (sometimes on PS2 game forums too).

Also - Xbox Live is worth it for the downloadable content alone! I've gotten so many extra levels, extra characters, even for games that aren't Live enabled.
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Stranger was built on the Xbox harddrive, making full use of it. Xbox it is.
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Yeah, but with PS2 you have to buy an extra part to make it internet ready. Xbox has an ethernet plug built in.
So that's $50 for the network adaptor total, whereas you're spending $50 a year on Xbox live. Personally, I'd take the one time fee.
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I own all the current systems and I love them all. I'm not a guy who just gives loyalties to one console...that's stupid.
I'm by no means loyal to any console. I don't idolize the PS2 or Gamecube. I just don't like anything the Xbox has to offer.

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If I'm not mistaken, do you not have to pay an individual fee for alot (if not most) PS2 games you want to play online? Pretty sure I've seen that stated over and over (sometimes on PS2 game forums too).
The only games that require monthly/annual fees on PS2 are the MMORPGs like Everquest, but those have monthly fees no matter what system you play them on. The majority of action/adventure games like SOCOM, Resident Evil Outbreak, Splinter Cell, etc., etc., don't have any fees whatsoever. And if they do, it's the developers choice to instate them. Sony doesn't charge anything for their online service other than the cost of the network adaptor.

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Also - Xbox Live is worth it for the downloadable content alone! I've gotten so many extra levels, extra characters, even for games that aren't Live enabled.
PS2 with a harddrive allows you to download new content for games also, such as Metal Gear Solid 3. And yes, you'll probably say "but you have to buy the HDD separate", but even so, it's still not much more expensive to buy a PS2 and a HDD than it is to buy an Xbox alone.

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Um yeah....excellent support like that isn't going to come for free, but except for one game that I know of...
Blizzard has the best online servers to date on Battle.net, and they have never charged a cent for use. Also, I could care less about all the extra features on Xbox Live like connecting to your MSN buddy list and what not. I go online to play games, not to chat. If I wanted to do that, I'd use a computer.
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The only games that require monthly/annual fees on PS2 are the MMORPGs like Everquest, but those have monthly fees no matter what system you play them on. The majority of action/adventure games like SOCOM, Resident Evil Outbreak, Splinter Cell, etc., etc., don't have any fees whatsoever. And if they do, it's the developers choice to instate them. Sony doesn't charge anything for their online service other than the cost of the network adaptor.
Ah Ok I wasn't aware of which games you had to pay for, only that some charged a monthly fee. From polls I've seen on various PS2 gaming boards though, quite a large percentage of PS2 owners would be willing to pay the monthly fee for a better supported online service with better features.

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PS2 with a harddrive allows you to download new content for games also, such as Metal Gear Solid 3. And yes, you'll probably say "but you have to buy the HDD separate", but even so, it's still not much more expensive to buy a PS2 and a HDD than it is to buy an Xbox alone.
PS2 and Xbox are both 199 here. Then you add 159 for the PS2 HDD. So not exactly true.


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Also, I could care less about all the extra features on Xbox Live like connecting to your MSN buddy list and what not. I go online to play games, not to chat. If I wanted to do that, I'd use a computer.
Ok well being a female gamer, I keep a very select group of friends that I will play Live with. So I love the whole tracking system, seeing what games they're playing so I can join up with them and not some random group.

So keeping an open mind...I decided I'd go and check out the PS2 last night..thinking there are some games I'd like to play on it. I was fully prepared to pay the 199.00 plus 15% sales tax on it.

But I started looking at their games...started with RPG and then began looking at just anything really - so question: are there ANY 1-4 or even 1-2 player RPG's on PS2? The only game I could really see that involved more than one player was Rainbow Six 3. Needless to say I walked out sans PS2.
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From polls I've seen on various PS2 gaming boards though, quite a large percentage of PS2 owners would be willing to pay the monthly fee for a better supported online service with better features.
I'm definitely not one of them. I would NEVER pay a monthly or annual fee for anything to do with gaming.
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PS2 and Xbox are both 199 here. Then you add 159 for the PS2 HDD. So not exactly true.
PS2's are around $200 Canadian here, while an Xbox costs around $270. The HDD is only $100, so it's a $30 difference for me.
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PS2's are around $200 Canadian here, while an Xbox costs around $270. The HDD is only $100, so it's a $30 difference for me.
I'm from Canada also..and when I went to Future Shop on Wednesday night (when considering the PS2) both the Xbox and the PS2 retailed for $199.00 CDN. The HDD was $159.00 CDN for me. Must be just the geography then.
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07-02-2004, 10:21 AM
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Possibly. I've seen PS2 HDDs for as low as $50 American.
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Possibly. I've seen PS2 HDDs for as low as $50 American.
Oh sorry I was just talking about locally...but true there are alot of places to get it cheaper from the US, I should probably explore that avenue before making any purchases.

Any thoughts on my comments on the games...do you have any recommendations for good 2 player (or more) PS2 games?
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07-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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so question: are there ANY 1-4 or even 1-2 player RPG's on PS2? The only game I could really see that involved more than one player was Rainbow Six 3. Needless to say I walked out sans PS2.
RPGs are hardly ever multiplayer unless you go the MMO route. But if you just want some good multiplayer games in general, I really wouldn't be able to help you. I'm not big on MP games since my internet sucks and I can't play online. But there are a few good games the I know of with MP like SOCOM 2, Contra: Shattered Soldier, and Neo Contra.
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