ODDBOXX: Bugs & Crashes -

Crashpunk · #91 01-04-2011, 02:39 AM

After the Steam Patch. Munch's Oddysee has had no problems.
now all I need is a controller :P

Manco · #92 01-04-2011, 05:14 AM

Update: Just Add Water is back in town, and apparently are aiming to get a patch for Stranger's Wrath out this week: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...&postcount=394

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Hey Guys,
I'm back. And with some good news too...

Sorry I've not been around since the 24th, but I decided to take time off over the Christmas Holidays, and as such decided to NOT do ANY work at all.

Anyway, here's an update for you...

1. I bought a new machine with an i5 processor and an ATI Graphics board, so I could see these issues myself. And indeed I could.

2. We have made a single optimisation so far that has sped the game up quite a bit, from an average of 18fps at 800x600 (low), on my old machine, to 60fps. Obviously this is 4 year old hardware, and I'll be trying it on my new machine soon, but that's a nice improvement to begin with. We will be doing some other bits n bobs to keep that at either a constant or better rate.

3. The First Person Camera problem with nVidia boards is fixed.

Our aim is to get a patch out for Stranger later this week, but that does depend on how we get on with stuff. We are busy making a fair few changes, but we want to get them right before we do release the update.

Cheers, and Happy New Year.

Stewart

I'm glad he's back, the Steam Forums have been like the Wild West this past week.

EDIT: also expect another Munch patch sometime in the coming month: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...54&postcount=8

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As SanchoKobe said, we ARE working on this very hard with Stranger and also Munch.

We are hoping to get a nice Stranger update out in the next week, and then a Munch one later this month with a LOT of changes to it.

Cheers, and a Happy New Year.

Stewart Gilray
CEO - JAW Ltd.

Crashpunk · #93 01-04-2011, 11:19 AM

Why are they patching Munch again?

Manco · #94 01-04-2011, 12:01 PM

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Why are they patching Munch again?

Probably to fix some smaller bugs people might be having, adding more language support and other features.

MadmanMad · #95 01-05-2011, 07:25 AM

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Why are they patching Munch again?

Probably the fact that some peoples games, like mine, have reletivly no sound.

Manco · #96 01-05-2011, 07:51 AM

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Probably the fact that some peoples games, like mine, have reletivly no sound.

Probably this too. The first patch was to fix the major crashes that most people were getting; the second patch will probably fix less common issues and smaller bugs.

Crashpunk · #97 01-05-2011, 08:19 AM

Apparently MO has been crashing at a new place

Splinterz, the 2nd Boiler.

Manco · #98 01-05-2011, 12:01 PM

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Apparently MO has been crashing at a new place

Splinterz, the 2nd Boiler.

I just played up to Splinterz Manufacturing to see if you were right. I got a crash while shooting at Sligs coming from a Slig spawner. I don't know if it's a one-off yet, but I'll be making a note of it (and any repeats) here and at the Steam forums.

EDIT: Definitely not a one-off.

Gabriel_HS · #99 01-05-2011, 12:11 PM

I cant play Stranger's Wrath in full screen mode. I have a Radeon HD4890.

EDIT: I tried this:

Edit config.txt:

width=1920
height=1080
resolution=custom

Its fullscreen now, but it has been flattened. Is this how it was supposed to be, or it should be 16:9 without any distortions?

SligValet · #**100** 01-06-2011, 05:19 AM

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Probably the fact that some peoples games, like mine, have reletivly no sound.

This, my game plays perfectly fine but the sound keeps cracking up ALL THE TIME and sometimes doesn't play at all for a duration of 7 seconds or so. While the music works perfectly fine.

DarkHoodness · #**101** 01-06-2011, 08:49 AM

An update on the yet-to-be-released Stranger's Wrath patch from the Steam forums:

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Update January 6th 2010
Just has a general update to All...

1. We have fixed the nvidia issue in first person mode.
2. We have HUGELY increased performance, a tester who had the game running at only 20fps in 800x600 mode is now running at around 60fps in 1920x1050 res.
3. We have also moved/altered the way saved games work. We forgot about the "permissions" issues with the "Program Files" folder in Vista/Win7, as a result we have moved saved games to "C:\users\USERNAME\appdata\Roaming\Oddworld\Strang er's Wrath\".

Other alterations that are WIP ...
a) Native resolutions available to the player will be made available (IE what can your card do)
b) Removing the joypad auto-detect from the game itself, and allowing players to chose which control system via the launcher.
c) Updated Keyboard UI screen.
d) Audio glitch in opening moving, being looked at. (Actual movie is glitched).
e) Fix achievements.
f) Customisable controls.

Manco · #**102** 01-06-2011, 09:17 AM

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c) Updated Keyboard UI screen.

I love this part the best. They must be really sick of people complaining about that screen if it's mentioned in the patch update.

keeperxiii · #**103** 01-08-2011, 08:23 AM

The keyboard doesn't really affect me much, there aren't a lot of controls and they have the standard fps controls with little variation.

What bugs me is the crappy fps camera and the frame rate. Damn this game.

MojoMan220 · #**104** 01-08-2011, 02:50 PM

A couple things I noticed...

I'm using a wired 360 controller (new) and whenever I try to sneak, it's very hard to find the right spot when moving the thumbstick. I end up walking which wakes up sleeping sligs. Is anybody else having difficulty with this?

Also, I'm not sure if this was the case on the Xbox version, but pop-in is really noticeable even despite the thick fog. Spooce in particular are constantly appearing out of nowhere instead of gradually fading in the fog. Similarly, some structures start to erase unnaturally before the fog can obscure them properly.

Manco · #**105** 01-08-2011, 03:09 PM

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A couple things I noticed...

I'm using a wired 360 controller (new) and whenever I try to sneak, it's very hard to find the right spot when moving the thumbstick. I end up walking which wakes up sleeping sligs. Is anybody else having difficulty with this?

The sneaking on the original Xbox version was notoriously hard to do as well; the difference was that back then clicking the thumbstick would force you into a fast sneak.
I wouldn't worry about it much, though - sneaking is basically useless in-game.

Also did I mention the Stranger patch has a projected timeframe of "within seven days" as of Friday? Because it's true.

keeperxiii · #**106** 01-08-2011, 03:58 PM

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A couple things I noticed...

I'm using a wired 360 controller (new) and whenever I try to sneak, it's very hard to find the right spot when moving the thumbstick. I end up walking which wakes up sleeping sligs. Is anybody else having difficulty with this?

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The sneaking on the original Xbox version was notoriously hard to do as well; the difference was that back then clicking the thumbstick would force you into a fast sneak.
I wouldn't worry about it much, though - sneaking is basically useless in-game.

Even so, you can use this:

DXTweak2:
http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/gadgets.htm

and the XBCD drivers for the X360 controllers:
http://matt-land.com/xbcd/
http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1173
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBCD

(^Should the above be stickied somewhere?)

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Also, I'm not sure if this was the case on the Xbox version, but pop-in is really noticeable even despite the thick fog. Spooce in particular are constantly appearing out of nowhere instead of gradually fading in the fog. Similarly, some structures start to erase unnaturally before the fog can obscure them properly.

That can be due to the bigger resolution in which the game is running. Try messing with the options in your nvidia or ati control panel with different profiles.

XenSligger · #**107** 01-09-2011, 10:23 AM

Well, every game expect Stranges Wrath it working..

I get errort that says "Application Load Error 405693<- Some number for example)

Im tried everything and NOTHING WORKS

keeperxiii · #**108** 01-09-2011, 10:45 AM

That has got to be corrupted game files.

MeechMunchie · #**109** 01-15-2011, 02:20 PM

When I try to launch AE in Steam, the Launching... window finishes but the game doesn't appear. Exoddus.exe is running, but I can't end the process. I verified the game cache and disabled any background processes I thought might be intefering, but I can't be sure.

Any help would be much appreciated.

keeperxiii · #**110** 01-15-2011, 03:32 PM

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When I try to launch AE in Steam, the Launching... window finishes but the game doesn't appear. Exoddus.exe is running, but I can't end the process. I verified the game cache and disabled any background processes I thought might be intefering, but I can't be sure.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Are you running Windows 7? If so, 7 has a nasty habit of running that rundll32.dll guy in the background.

7 launches rundll32 in the background whenever you try to run an old game to attempt to gather cover box information for the crappy games explorer. The problem is, it's badly programmed, and they still haven't fixed it (to my knowledge). Basically, if your internet is turned off, it will start the process when you start the game, the game won't start, you'll be forced to end the game's process and start the game again, and the rundll32 process will keep munching on cpu until it grabs 100% cpu usage.

The only current fix is to start the game, end the game's process, start it again, alt tab and then end the rundll32 process.

I hope it helped.

MeechMunchie · #**111** 01-17-2011, 12:25 AM

I don't have #7, but my system does have a couple of rundl32's running. I'll try it later and check. Thanks.

keeperxiii · #**112** 01-17-2011, 03:22 AM

Then beware, at least 1 of those rundll32's is probably a virus.

***Nate*** · #**113** 01-17-2011, 03:39 AM

Don't be silly, keeperxiii. Windows often has multiple rundll32's running.

Manco · #**114** 01-17-2011, 03:46 AM

Ugh, I am so sick of arguing on the Steam forums. If anyone from JAW is reading this, please get the SW patch out soon.

That said, I was talking to a certain someone there (via PM), and I'm pretty hopeful we'll be seeing it soon.

keeperxiii · #**115** 01-17-2011, 03:52 AM

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Don't be silly, keeperxiii. Windows often has multiple rundll32's running.

From win xp onwards I haven't seen Windows using this.

And rundll32.dll is very commonly used by viruses. The generic name "rundll32.dll" might tip you off that this could be anything being used by any program

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It's like this:

Rundll32.dll is a generic name for a .dll running in the background, thus, it's very commonly used by viruses. It's quite simple actually.

MeechMunchie · #**116** 01-17-2011, 10:01 AM

Didn't work, I'm afraid. Anything else, anyone?

keeperxiii · #**117** 01-17-2011, 10:54 AM

You're using win xp, right?

Have you already checked the integrity of the game's files with steam? Have you tried to remove the game and download it again?

Can you post a pic of all your processes when you start the game?

Manco · #**118** 01-17-2011, 01:52 PM

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Didn't work, I'm afraid. Anything else, anyone?

I'm going to ask the obvious questions: did it work before, or is this your first time installing the game? If it worked before, have you changed any hardware/software recently?

MeechMunchie · #**119** 01-18-2011, 06:06 AM

I'm on XP, this is my second install of AE Steam version, I have a perfectly functional CD version, verified cache integrity twice, defragmented the game files, and my PC setup's been the same for months. I don't recall installing anything that would affect this, and all my other Steam games work fine.

Manco · #**120** 01-18-2011, 08:57 AM

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I'm on XP, this is my second install of AE Steam version, I have a perfectly functional CD version, verified cache integrity twice, defragmented the game files, and my PC setup's been the same for months. I don't recall installing anything that would affect this, and all my other Steam games work fine.

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it? Also, do you own AO, and if so does that work?

Anyway, just coming in to say that it looks like the Stranger's Wrath patch will be out today: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...68&postcount=2

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We are just about there with everything and will be sending the update off to Valve shortly.