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You don’t really get to say “it’s not up to me to say who gets to be 'truly' trans or not” and then deliberately misgender someone who has identified themselves as trans because you think they’re faking it, that’s kind of a blatant contradiction.
I’ve definitely got absolutely zero opinion about any of the Kardashians and I don’t really care if the manslaughter charges go through or not, if it’s a guilty verdict then she’ll go to jail and her being trans isn’t likely to change any court verdict. But I think that the idea that someone would change their identity in such a drastic, controversial and potentially dangerous (considering the vilification a lot of trans people receive) manner just as a publicity stunt is a very far-fetched idea, and if you seriously think it might hold merit then maybe you need to re-examine why you hold that opinion.
Also, there’s nothing to say that you can’t be trans and a shitty person. There’s plenty of people who would say Caitlyn Jenner is both – I’ve sen plenty of trans people criticizing her.
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Bruce Jenner had the crash in February 2015. Caitlyn Jenner didn't, because Bruce wasn't publicly Caitlyn until April of 2015. I'm not misgendering, I'm establishing the order of events. As a member of the public, Bruce was not Caitlyn to me until she came forward to the public and I was informed of this. Until then, Bruce was the only halfway tolerable member of the Kardashian clan, based on approximately 3 episodes I watched 4 years ago.
So to reiterate,
3 months before Bruce Jenner came out to the public as Caitlyn Jenner, he was involved in a terrible crash that injured a dozen people and killed one; the person he rear-ended.
I'm not positing that Bruce Jenner never wanted to evaluate his feelings on his gender before this point. I'm saying that the public announcement post-surgery was a ploy to draw attention away from the fact that someone fucking died because Bruce Jenner rear ended them into oncoming traffic.
As stated previously, I do not believe that the majority of people sympathize with or comprehend what it's like to have gender identity issues, as Bruce Jenner did (Because Caitlyn Jenner wouldn't have those same issues,
correct?). Luckily, Hollywood is not 'the majority of people'. Caitlyn Jenner has to convince the court that part of the reason such a terrible thing could ever happen was stress derived from gender identity.
To put this more bluntly, you are not going to convince me that some wealthy shit-paste from Northern LA is above playing on controversial topics to spin certain attitudes in her favor. She's not convincing the people in my hometown, who blatantly don't give a fuck, but she does have to convince a jury of her peers to give her a lighter sentence. I say this because
rich people can afford to fuck with the law and will go to great lengths to do so.
To simplify, so you don't get on me for
misgendering (you really think I'm that unsympathetic to such a devalued role? Come on.), if the stresses of gender identity were so great, why would she possibly come out in such a public fashion? She was rolling the dice for a lighter sentence, as most likely advised to her by a well-paid, extremely competent publicist. It worked! People
love Caitlyn Jenner, and people who don't aren't obligated to say anything about it, because I doubt they care, except for me with all my free time.
Watch the Oscars (basically a plumbing corporation awards show, but with more money moving around) some time. It's packed with B-listers sympathizing with Trans people because that's a hot topic in LA. To be fair, I'm sure they mean well more often than not. I remember specifically Jeffrey Tamboor had some nice things to say and then donated some money to some LGBT-oriented cause. Something like that. (This is my least reliable paragraph, don't give it too much thought)
You think I'm devaluing Trans people by calling out bullshit, I'm not. I'm reinforcing the fact that we need to attach positive role models to devalued people like the Trans community, and Caitlyn 'kept the dick' Jenner is not in my opinion a portrait of stability or competency that people should be championing.
Oh will you just calm the fuck down? It was a meaningless quip based on the last time I was involved in a discussion on gender on this forum. It doesn't matter how long ago something shitty was done, I'm entitled to shame you for being such a dickhead for misjudging what I had to say to claim a moral high ground,
which you are doing AGAIN.
And let's elaborate here, it wasn't the negrep, it was the odious, judgemental little note attached to it that just screamed self-righteousness and indignation. Oh yes, I'm sure 500 days of posting on OWF hasn't made you
any less fueled by righteous indignation to feel on top of a subject. My post that mentioned it in the first place? Meaningless, referential. Indicative of this weird attitude that if my use of pronouns isn't constantly up to date I'm obviously not well-intentioned or informed on a subject, which Manco just perpetuated by misunderstanding the reasoning my phrasings of 'he' and 'she'.
Who cares if I got negrepped? Only me, because I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Who cares if their arguments are twisted into something convenient enough to get pissy about? All of you should, since you're generally a lot more civil than I am and that behaviour is childish.
