Upcoming Game Releases (v2) -

MeechMunchie · #**1021** 10-21-2014, 04:01 PM

Pretentions of what?

Vyrien · #**1022** 10-21-2014, 04:30 PM

time to pray to god I don't fuck the site up again

Shade667 · #**1023** 10-21-2014, 08:30 PM

Why is there a sequel to a game thats been out for 2 months?

Varrok · #**1024** 10-21-2014, 08:55 PM

Mainly because the first game was quite short, and apparently it was easy to make a sequel of this game.

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Pretentions of what?

Come on, the dev(s?) tries to make fighting internet trolls look like an epic battle. But in reality nobody cares.

Shade667 · #**1025** 10-21-2014, 10:34 PM

Reeks of a cash grab...
the first one was a cool concept, but we dont need 2 of the exact same thing in the same year. I dont think people are begging them to make a sequel so soon.

Job McYossie · #**1026** 10-21-2014, 11:56 PM

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Reeks of a cash grab...
the first one was a cool concept, but we dont need 2 of the exact same thing in the same year. I dont think people are begging them to make a sequel so soon.

I don't think you quite understand the degree of which people enjoyed the game.

Shade667 · #**1027** 10-22-2014, 01:00 AM

When a game is that new though, u would think they would go for DLC before "Lets make a whole new game 3 months after the first one".
And the people who love the game are probably still playing the first one.

I dunno, it just doesnt sit well with me...

Vyrien · #**1028** 10-22-2014, 01:18 AM

People definitely wanted a second game.

Varrok · #**1029** 10-22-2014, 01:35 AM

DLC suck balls.

Crashpunk · #**1030** 10-22-2014, 04:01 AM

Five nights is huge. So I'm not surprised a sequel has already been announced.

MeechMunchie · #**1031** 10-22-2014, 11:42 AM

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Come on, the dev(s?) tries to make fighting internet trolls look like an epic battle.

Really? That trailer gave me the impression that arguing with strangers is draining, endless and ultimately futile.

The game has no levels, and no score. You just go on and on until you quit.

Mac Sirloin · #**1032** 10-29-2014, 04:50 PM

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When a game is that new though, u would think they would go for DLC before "Lets make a whole new game 3 months after the first one".
And the people who love the game are probably still playing the first one.

I dunno, it just doesnt sit well with me...

You can take my opinion with a grain of salt as I haven't actually played 5 Nights, but from what I've read the designer never anticipated the first game to be as popular as it is. Now he has money and resources to flesh the game out a bit more. I'm 99% sure, judging by that trailer, that turning the Robots against each other and shepherding them from certain rooms will be a feature. 5 Nights had a pretty simple idea executed very well (OR SO I'VE HEEEEARD), I'm interested to see what else the creator can do with the concept with fat wads/mad stacks of cash.

Shade667 · #**1033** 10-29-2014, 08:07 PM

From a designers POV, it doesnt feel right. I havnt played nor watched Five nights cuz im shit scared of everything. But from what ive heard its like an hour long, and with little replay value.

Its like how I felt about goat simulator. I thought it was cool that they made their physics demo into a full game just cuz people wanted it, but I didnt agree with the absurd price they were charging for a demo. But then when people wanted more 'game', they added a whole new level as free dlc. Theres a (decent) example i think.
Each to their own, I just dont think its the rigth way to go about it. If it was me, Id do it differently.

MeechMunchie · #**1034** 10-29-2014, 09:27 PM

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From a designers POV, it doesnt feel right. I havnt played nor watched Five nights

From a designer's point of view, your opinions here are meaningless. Designers do this thing called "research".

Mac Sirloin · #**1035** 10-29-2014, 09:48 PM

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From a designers POV, it doesnt feel right. I havnt played nor watched Five nights cuz im shit scared of everything. But from what ive heard its like an hour long, and with little replay value.

Its like how I felt about goat simulator. I thought it was cool that they made their physics demo into a full game just cuz people wanted it, but I didnt agree with the absurd price they were charging for a demo. But then when people wanted more 'game', they added a whole new level as free dlc. Theres a (decent) example i think.
Each to their own, I just dont think its the rigth way to go about it. If it was me, Id do it differently.

Goat simulator is a joke laughably thrown up out of the belly of Unreal engine 3; anyone with half an education in design (and access to an Unreal License) could make something similar with considerably less effort. It is so easy to vomit out products with Unreal Engine 3 I'm in a state of rejecting the majority of games that use it.

I'd like to know what you think is the right way to go about it, what would you do in the designers shoes?
I think it's the dream of any indie designer to get recognition and critical accolades so soon after releasing a genuinely unique product, let alone massive popularity and cult-hit status. He's capitalizing on an opportunity to expand his recognition and improve his product, this is a win-win for everyone if you ask me.

I wouldn't think of Five Nights 2 as a sequel so much as a wholesale expansion on the original. If you enjoyed the first game the glossy, snazzy re-engineered version will likely blow you away, right? Give it a chance.

Varrok · #**1036** 10-29-2014, 11:30 PM

DLCs are shit.

Shade667 · #**1037** 10-30-2014, 03:04 AM

If I wanted to make a game, but I didnt have the resources to make it how I envisioned it, but the end result is still a playable game that I can sell to a consumer and make a profit, then after I have made said profit I would use said resources to make the game into how I originally envisioned it. From what ive heard and seen, Five nights at freddy's 2 is looking to be how the original creator envisioned it, but couldnt make due to lack of funds, time or whatever. the roginal game looked like a mod. So after u buy the sequel, ur essentially paying like $30 for a demo and a full game, dpending on how similar the 2 end up being. Thats how i see it anyway.

@Meech. My opinions arent based on me playing. They have nothing to do with the gameplay of the game, just the (How do I word this? Marketing? Or Business practices? Theres probably a better word I can use...)

In the end, Im not gonna play the damn thing, so If you guys dont wnat to keep this going, feel free to direct thread towards a different game.

MeechMunchie · #**1038** 10-30-2014, 03:34 AM

If I did a thing I'm not going to do, you could be damn sure I'd do it better than the people doing that thing.

Phylum · #**1039** 10-30-2014, 03:48 AM

What?

So what are you suggesting the creator should do? Release the second game, that he's invested time and money into, for free? Travel backwards in time and not charge for the first game? (And then not have the funds to even make the second?)

So you're basing your opinions on some bullshit moral ideas about the value of video games. But here's the thing - I would say as many as 90% of people knew exactly what to expect from Five Nights in terms of content and length. And they still bought it. And now he's releasing a second game. And people will still buy it.

I really don't understand what you were even trying to say in that post.

e: MM is a speedy shit

e2: To emphasis how little sense your post makes I did a dramatic reading.

Varrok · #**1040** 10-30-2014, 06:48 AM

Please, please, read my comment too!

OANST · #**1041** 10-30-2014, 09:33 AM

Shade has opinions because dumb

Job McYossie · #**1042** 10-30-2014, 12:30 PM

I understand the most of your post and kind somewhat agree with you. but...

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the roginal game looked like a mod.

A mod of what?

STM · #**1043** 10-30-2014, 01:04 PM

Dat accent tho >w>

Phylum · #**1044** 10-30-2014, 03:46 PM

What are you talking about, you're the one with the accent >:(

Seriously though, do I sound very Australian? I talk to enough East Coast dudes to think that I don't.

Shade667 · #**1045** 10-30-2014, 05:38 PM

@Job By' Mod', I meant graphics wise. It didnt look polished.

Im not saying the creator should do anything. Its their game. Who am I to tell them how to make their game. Who has the succesful video game? Not me. But if I was in that position Id do it differently. And hey, with luck I might be. Just finished a game design course. And I never mentioned selling their game for free. Its just that If a profit came in that fast, Id think of making the original game better, rather than making a second game thats pretty much the same thing but more. Ill hold my judgement of the game until it comes out, this discussion is not about the game, but the developer practices. In my perspective, I dont like it.

Phylum · #**1046** 10-30-2014, 08:28 PM

Enjoy your life of moral poverty.

Mac Sirloin · #**1047** 10-30-2014, 08:41 PM

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Id think of making the original game better, rather than making a second game thats pretty much the same thing but more.

This is exactly what he is doing. He is expanding the concept with better resources at his disposal.

OANST · #**1048** 10-31-2014, 07:54 AM

But instead of that he does that.

Varrok · #**1049** 10-31-2014, 08:03 AM

That fucker.

OANST · #**1050** 10-31-2014, 08:38 AM

I know.