I Have Just Seen... VII

[Phylum]

I tried to get my mum to watch the first episode, but she got put off by the introduction and didn't watch any more. I tried to explain to her for about 10 minutes that the war stuff is just the setup and that it's actually more of a Western vibe, but it fell on deaf ears.

[Manco]

It took me about two years to finish Firefly. The first two episodes up front, and then all the others at the other end.

By the way, fuck Serenity. I hated the movie.

[Mr. Bungle]

I watched South Park: Bigger Longer Uncut the other day while on mushrooms.

Highly recommended, love that movie. The music is still bouncing around in my head.

[Crashpunk]

I'm pretty sure any film is good whilst under the affects of mushrooms.

But yeah, it's a good film. Haven't seen it in forever though.

[Nate]

One day back in 2000, I watched it three times in a row without taking a break. With no mushrooms involved.

[Phylum]

Finished Firefly. I didn't want it to end. I still have so many questions.

Also caved and watched the first ep of Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp. It was better than I expected, very much the same as the original movie without just taking everything from there. Some continuing jokes were already tiring, like the overzealous applause, but on the whole it was faithful without getting a brown nose, and very obviously written by the same people. Some of the actors are kind of unnerving playing 16-17 year olds now that they're filthy old men, though. Especially Coop. The realisation than Ben was played by a little baby Bradley Cooper was pretty awesome though, because I didn't recognise him in the original.

I don't know if I want to watch more, but I probably will at 2am when I can't sleep and feel like laughing without engaging my brain.

The return of the tacky, overused clay-pot shattering effect for that one scene was pretty great though.

[Mr. Bungle]

been watching attack on titan a lot lately. great show. action scenes are so intense, quiet scenes feel like walking on eggshells. animation is pretty amazing too. it's probably the best anime i've ever watched honestly, but that's coming from a guy who's hardly watched any anime other than, yknow, the "pokemon animes". you know what im talkin about.

i'm open to recommendations

One day back in 2000, I watched it three times in a row without taking a break.. With no mushrooms involved.

i don't know if i could even survive that on mushrooms!

LSD? surely youd have to be high as a kite to do something like that

[Nepsotic]

Watch Mirai Nikki. It's dumb, but it's better (more fun) than Attack on Titan.

[Job McYossie]

Future Diary is great. A lot of dumb tropes, as Nep said, but the characters are pretty damn awesome. Each character you see seems to have a fully written past.

[Nepsotic]

And 9th is hot.

[Nate]

Also caved and watched the first ep of Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp.

I actually worked on the camp that WHAS was based on. I haven't actually seen the film or the TV show, so I can't comment on how true to life it was.

[MA]

It took me about two years to finish Firefly. The first two episodes up front, and then all the others at the other end.

By the way, fuck Serenity. I hated the movie.

Finished Firefly. I didn't want it to end. I still have so many questions.

i enjoyed Firefly, haven't seen Serenity though.

what do people think of Aqua Teen Hunger Force? i've watched a few and they make me laugh on occasion but i feel like i'm missing a joke somewhere. it's very hit-or-miss. Carl cracks me up though.

also i've caught up with Superjail. it seemed to change in the last season or two, but i still love it. crazy animation.

btw if anyone has any suggestions, fire away. i know Space Ghost Coast to Coast is on my watch-list. i didn't realise ATHF was a spin-off of SGCtC until after i already started watching them, otherwise i would have watched them the other way around.

[Manco]

i enjoyed Firefly, haven't seen Serenity though.

It basically tries to cram all the major plot points that the show should have explored in future seasons into a single movie. It’s a really unsatisfactory way of trying to “wrap up” the show.

what do people think of Aqua Teen Hunger Force? i've watched a few and they make me laugh on occasion but i feel like i'm missing a joke somewhere. it's very hit-or-miss. Carl cracks me up though.

I haven’t seen it, but it seemed to spring up around the same time as a whole bunch of other adult-oriented cartoons. It probably doesn’t stand up too well now.

btw if anyone has any suggestions, fire away. i know Space Ghost Coast to Coast is on my watch-list. i didn't realise ATHF was a spin-off of SGCtC until after i already started watching them, otherwise i would have watched them the other way around.

If you have Netflix I’ve found Orange is the New Black to be very entertaining.

[Nepsotic]

I started watching Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I like it.

[Mr. Bungle]

My buddy showed me a bunch of Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell, one of the newer Adult Swim shows, I guess. It's fucking hilarious, well at least it is while stoned. Can't vouch for the sober mind, but I'm sure it's still great.

[Phylum]

It basically tries to cram all the major plot points that the show should have explored in future seasons into a single movie. It’s a really unsatisfactory way of trying to “wrap up” the show.

I watched it today, and this is totally right. It really does cram shit together. The first scene where it introduces the crew is so forced, just to get everyone up to speed, but it goes so fast it skims over important things. Why is Jayne totally fine with River going on the mission with them, only to revert to his usual "she's a spaz we need to kill her or leave her behind" shtick later.

It had moments that were good. But the entire premise of the guy hunting River because of what she might have mind-read from Parliament officials was kind of lame. I mean fuck I hated the whole beginning. That sequence of Simon rescuing her really made no sense. We were shown in the series that he wasn't very good in that kind of situation. I just always assumed he payed out the nose to have her delivered to him frozen as we first meet her in Firefly. But nope, they needed an establishing shot of them together.

If you have Netflix I’ve found Orange is the New Black to be very entertaining.

I watched the first 8 episodes of OitNB and I just couldn't get into it. The episodes didn't really feel like episodes, they were just a series of scenes. Everyone tells me that the secondary characters make it, but they were developed in such an obtuse way I couldn't get behind it. Don't show me a character's backstory in an episode if they have nothing to do with the plot of the episode. Don't throw unnecessary exposition at me unless it's relevant to what's going on. Don't have a needlessly long dancing scene in an episode that already feels like it's hardly going anywhere. I'd guess most of these problems come from being a book adaption, but I don't know enough about the book to comment.

The episode with the chicken was fucking great, though. It basically addressed all of my criticisms, but then by the next episode I was bored for the same reasons again.

I actually feel really awkward about not liking it because all of my friends adore it so much. I think they just like it for the emotional drama they throw in rather than the actual quality, though. I mean it's obviously a well made show with good actors. I just found it really boring.

[Varrok]

I've just seen the newest South Park episode. It perfectly nailed what's wrong with today's so called "social justice".

[Manco]

It had moments that were good. But the entire premise of the guy hunting River because of what she might have mind-read from Parliament officials was kind of lame. I mean fuck I hated the whole beginning.

To be honest it was less the smaller pieces of the story that bothered me and more the broader strokes of the plot – it was like they went “well we’re never gonna get another season so we’ll cram all our major plot arcs into one thing”. It felt like the reveals of the Confederation or whatever they’re called having committed genocide and accidentally creating the Reapers, and River having superpowers or whatever were meant to be big reveals for a third season finale or something.

Oh and killing off some of the best main characters just felt like a dick move.

I think they just like it for the emotional drama they throw in rather than the actual quality, though.

Honestly that’s its best selling point. It’s a character-driven show for sure, especially since the whole thing is set inside one prison for the most part. I’d say the broader drama of the plot doesn’t really show up until halfway through the first season, which if you’re not already interested in the characters is a long time to wait.

I actually really enjoy the backstory cutaways though – they may not influence the plot but it does a really great job of rounding out the characters and changing your perspective of them. I think what OitNB does so well is it presents the characters to you as people and not just prisoners, and showing how everyone wound up behind bars is in service to that end.

[Nepsotic]

I watched the new Doctor Who episode tonight.
It was interesting. This series seems to be taking pacing way more seriously, as it appears every story is a multi-parter.

Sick of Clara, though. She's a non-entity.

I've just seen the newest South Park episode. It perfectly nailed what's wrong with today's so called "social justice".

Good to know not everybody on this forum is insane.

[Crashpunk]

The season finale of Rick and Morty.

Holy fuck.

It pretty confirms it for me. Rick and Morty is the best animated show I've ever watched. The consistent quality of the show; The writing, voice acting, animation is all just outstanding.

[Nepsotic]

BoJack is better. Watch BoJack. Anyway I'm off to watch the new Rick and Morty.

[Crashpunk]

I've been told to watch that. Also to watch Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Archer.

On top of that, I've got to finish Stargate and start Farscape and X-Files. (I told myself to watch more Sci-Fi this year).

So I've got a lot to watch. Still. A year wait for the next Rick and Morty is going to be tough.

[Nepsotic]

Do BoJack first. You can crack through it in a day if you're fast.

[FrustratedAssassin]

BoJack is amazing and you won't regret it.

Also,

JESUS FUCK THAT RICK AND MORTY FINALE I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN

But yeah I like BoJack more.

[Nepsotic]

Yeah that Rick and Morty finale went in. BoJack though.

[Mac Sirloin]

The season finale of Rick and Morty.

Holy fuck.

It pretty confirms it for me. Rick and Morty is the best animated show I've ever watched. The consistent quality of the show; The writing, voice acting, animation is all just outstanding.

Rick and Morty is the best. I got on the bandwagon after season 1 ended and I loved every minute of it. Check out Community is you can stream it, it has that same realistic heartfulness as Rick and Morty. Community is a slow burn sometimes but most of the episodes are fantastic.

BoJack is better. Watch BoJack. Anyway I'm off to watch the new Rick and Morty.

Bojack ain't better than Rick and Morty dog, it's too self loathing for its own good. I might have agreed with you before Season 2 just went in circles and tried to shoehorn some Bojack/Todd fun at the end but R&M usually plays things for a more meaningful tone, while Bojack pretends to do that and has it fall apart. It's part of the structure, but it loses something nonetheless.

I didn't get that business with the Owl either, like, was she 18 when she went into the coma? Because that would make her a 48 year old high school graduate...I dunno, maybe I forgot the explanation.

Season 2 of Bojack was relatively superior to S2 of Rick and Morty but that meaningfulness feels more important. Neither series had an episode that could compete with Rick Potion #9 or Downer Ending, which are just awesome. Bojack definitely has a better credits song.

Looking forward to season 3 of both though, and maybe another holiday special.

[Nepsotic]

BoJack is totally better m8. It has far more rounded characters, and combines drama and tragedy with black comedy in a way that I've never seen done before in an adult animated sitcom.
I don't understand what you mean when you say it "pretends" to have a more meaningful tone. It is meaningful, and it's the best written show I've seen in a long time. I love Rick and Morty, but it's closer to South Park than it is BoJack.
I'd say the best episode of R&M is Lawnmower Dog, and the best episode of BoJack is Escape From L.A. Both are vastly different in tone and while I can't directly compare them, I'd say BoJack is the better show overall.

[Mac Sirloin]

BoJack is totally better m8. It has far more rounded characters, and combines drama and tragedy with black comedy in a way that I've never seen done before in an adult animated sitcom.
I don't understand what you mean when you say it "pretends" to have a more meaningful tone. It is meaningful, and it's the best written show I've seen in a long time. I love Rick and Morty, but it's closer to South Park than it is BoJack.
I'd say the best episode of R&M is Lawnmower Dog, and the best episode of BoJack is Escape From L.A. Both are vastly different in tone and while I can't directly compare them, I'd say BoJack is the better show overall.

View post on imgur.com

It happened to Ugly Americans too, where season 1 was this great world given just enough flesh to be good and build some character and season 2 was 40% the protagonist's memespewing slacker roommate being a goofball. It doesn't help that Bojack and Diane are both arrogant, unlikable demagogues who occupy 60% of the plot by finding a soapbox to shit all over and then cry under.


Lawnmower dog is one of my least favorite episodes for some reason. I think it's Snuffles voice, it's conceptually good but the best part is when Justin Roiland as Rick just starts talking about getting poop in his mouth. I don't know what that comparison to South Park is based on but it's wrong.

Bojack often feels like something focus group tested for just the right amount of people who know both how to use Netflix and how to post on the internet about it. Rick and Morty was a science experiment Keith Crawford ejaculated into the original ATHF slot and it basically revitalized the whole Adult Swim brand in under a year, and still feels like half the episodes are just saying "Yeah you liked last weeks shit? Well this shit, this is the shit right here. This is the real shit." no matter what order I watch the episodes in.

Also this: https://vimeo.com/49664066

[Nepsotic]

Snuffles is one of my favourite characters, as you can see.

Ehh, I like both shows a lot so I'm not really bothered which one people root for. I don't think that the second seasons of either show were disappointing or poor. R&M was incredibly willing to take risks and keep the show from turning into a strict formula where you always know what to expect, and I think it paid off.

You think BoJack is unlikable? I find him an incredibly relatable character and most people I've talked to like him so much because of how much they see themselves in him, me included. I don't like Diane, though. She sucks, but her fiancè Mr. Peanutbutter is great.

Also, I approve of your avatar.

[Crashpunk]

Thankfully. It's possible to like more than one show.