Global warming.

[The Cheshire Cat]

Some people say global warming is an illusion and that it happened from the dawn of the history in cycles - some centuries its warmer, some centuries its colder etc.

Now, I'm not saying that this is how it is, but you most certainly are not expected to notice any changes in your areas caused by global warming within a timespan of 5 years.

[Wil]

Essentially, Earth temperatures rise and fall in response to millennial‐period orbital cycles. Even after current anthropogenic global warming plateaus [that’s the third‐person singular simple present conjugation of the verb, not a shoddy attempt at a plural :-p], the Earth will have been warmer in the past, but not due to industrial emissions, and not necessarily with so many people living in developed areas that will be lost under rising sea levels.

[Bullet Magnet]

Your understanding of lingual terminology is unnatural. Stop it.

[Wil]

It was copy/pasted from Wiktionary. But I do understand it.

[abe is now!]

Last year, in February if I remember well, the temperature in Piedmont (Northern Italy near Alps) was 30°C. That was in Tourin. Today, 17/01/2008, the temperature was 10°C. I saw Alps snow, but how much will that stay? And the grey smog in the ski. Lats year didn't snow! And in January of 2008 snowed twice but then it rained and the snows disappeared. It's orrible!!!

[Disgruntled Intern]

whatdoyoumeanabeisnow!

[Strike Witch]

It's orrible!!!

So 'Orrible!

[abe is now!]

whatdoyoumeanabeisnow!

I mean Earth is sick now. And it needs care.

[mudling]

Well I don't think we can cure it, we can prevent any more from happening though, but that's impossible due to our circumstances, so yeah, we'll be screwed over eventually.

[abe is now!]

I am being a serious environmentalist since I saw in my country some ruin of nature... polluted rivers, forests that are now dumping ground tips, glacers smaller, and cement everywhere. My dream was to restore rivers, because I am a fisherman and I often fish in torrents that have been destroyed by last flood. Then they have been embanked. They were full of fish and now they are disappearing. Rivers are beautiful again, but not as good as before flood.
Then I went with my father in a national park (Gran Paradiso) and I have loved mountains. I strarted to look for glacers and snow in mountains, because I like them and I want to preserve them. Alps are impressive. Southern Alps (that I can see from my town) are very impressive. I want to save Alps's glacers. But I should stop global warming. I will study environmental chemistry. And in the future I'll try to do something to stop global warming. I know it's very difficult. But I must do it.

[Paul]

I am being a serious environmentalist since I saw in my country some ruin of nature... polluted rivers, forests that are now dumping ground tips, glacers smaller, and cement everywhere. My dream was to restore rivers, because I am a fisherman and I often fish in torrents that have been destroyed by last flood. Then they have been embanked. They were full of fish and now they are disappearing. Rivers are beautiful again, but not as good as before flood.
Then I went with my father in a national park (Gran Paradiso) and I have loved mountains. I strarted to look for glacers and snow in mountains, because I like them and I want to preserve them. Alps are impressive. Southern Alps (that I can see from my town) are very impressive. I want to save Alps's glacers. But I should stop global warming. I will study environmental chemistry. And in the future I'll try to do something to stop global warming. I know it's very difficult. But I must do it.

If you're a serious environmentalist you wouldn't be using the internet right now as all the servers running around the world, your computer etc are causing tons of CO2 which is adding to the problem..

The only real solution is to stop using electricity, cars, and pretty much go back to the stone age, but guess what, no ones going to do that (or at least I know there’s no way in hell I’d do that).

The other solution is to use re-newable energy, which in a lot of places means nuclear power since other types aren’t feasible, but due to radiation and such environmentalists don't like that either

But what about wind turbines? Environmentalists don't like those either because they scar the landscape..

In short, you'll die sooner or later one way or another so this isnt really a problem, and between now and global warming there is a lot of other ways the world can/could/will end.

[mudling]

So basically you're saying environmentalists don't like anything?
I saw screw global warming, turn on all of your lights, keep your computer on, leave on your car, just so you can say you're a rebel :P
And that you're an areswhole screwing up the planet.
Hell, once we get over global warming, we're back to the old giant volcano, or comment theory, I say this is all a huge scam to get us to spend more moolah :P

[Paul]

Well you don't live in the UK, fuel prices, congestion charges, and lots more stuff means its going to be very diffcult for most people to afford a car and the likes of soon (or even now in some cases) which is the only reason why the UK's CO2 levels are down.
Its all about them making money really, since if it was so important they would make "normal" light bulbs illegal and force people to use engery saving ones.

[Bullet Magnet]

Actually, that sort of effort is in motion.

[Paul]

Actually, that sort of effort is in motion.

Yeah but it wont happen for a long time, if the earth is dying now, and we have to pay for tons of pathetic stuff then it should be done now

[Bullet Magnet]

Welcome to the human race inaction.

[Zerox]

Actually, that sort of effort is in motion.

You obviously don't live on the same planet we do. Seriously.

It's just the fact that this could all be so easy, and the big ass stupid retard companies could still make plenty of money out of this, but no, they don't care if we all die horribly, which is certainly going to happen...I mean, solar panel cars are not a myth, I had a small Micro Machines or something one YEARS ago, yet why aren't they being used now? Because...well, uh...I don't know. It's not like people wouldn't buy them. I can't think of a good reason for that.

God I hate Humans so much...

[Wil]

I will study environmental chemistry.

Awesome. I study environmental science. We can be study buddies.

And in the future I'll try to do something to stop global warming. I know it's very difficult. But I must do it.

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So basically you're saying environmentalists don't like anything?

On the whole, yes, we generally despise everything in existence, even nature itself. But ‘environmentalist’ is a very broad generalization. Different people will have different opinions on topics such as nuclear power, wind farms, GM crops, even legalized hunting of endangered species.

Well you don't live in the UK, fuel prices, congestion charges, and lots more stuff means its going to be very diffcult for most people to afford a car and the likes of soon (or even now in some cases) which is the only reason why the UK's CO2 levels are down.
Its all about them making money really, since if it was so important they would make "normal" light bulbs illegal and force people to use engery saving ones.

As a kind of aside, a man at the hospital where I had a job interview today told me his brother is publishing a book claiming that gas is not at all in short supply; this is a myth made by governments and fossil fuel companies so they can overcharge for it. It sounds all too familiar. Fossil fuels is not a topic I’m familiar with. Higher prices for environmentally damaging practices is in theory a good idea, but people’s lives are at stake if you make fuels inaccessible to them.

[Bullet Magnet]

There is plenty left, more than has ever been used, I'm sure. But our rate of consumption is just so much higher and no more oil fields are being discovered. It took over one hundred years to consume our first trillion barrels of oil, but will take only thirty to consume the next. Maybe less.

[Nate]

The other important point is that there is lots of oil around, it's just not good quality and will be very difficult, expensive and bad for the environment to process into usable forms.

Or perhaps he is playing silly buggers with terminology and is talking about natural gas (methane), of which there is still lots and lots in supply.

[Paul]

Well theres supposed to be "50 years worth of coal left" which might be true (for the current sources), but one thing I know for sure is that there is still tons of coal still here in the UK, only reason our mines are closed is because its cheaper to import it, so when push comes to shove I bet anything you'll see those opened up again

[mudling]

Making another excuse for Bush to declare war on IRAQ, so it's not even about the oil, or it could be that he wants all of the oil so he can make a bigger manopoly
I like that guys idea Max

[Bullet Magnet]

There is a lot of coal left in the ground. However, much of it is garbage. The stuff up in Wales has a high Sulphur content, for example.

[Strike Witch]

Fucking lazy scientists, make Nuclear Fusion Work Now!

[Bullet Magnet]

Harder than you think.

As it happens, Helium-3, a promising fuel for fusion, exists in great amounts on the moon. It might even be feasible to harvest it for that very purpose.

Though not while NASA's budget remains suitably neutered

[skillyaslig]

Too late. Global Warming is now set in montion. We will all die from either freezing, burning...ermm...get blown into things...Get hit by ice the size of mini vans...Well maybe not, but the weather is getting quite strange. Like we 'had' a hurricane or whatever the hell it is. o_o Which is strange, but we humans have simply speeded it right up.

[abe is now!]

The only way is stop using petrol. And then we'd find an alternative energy. But it'd be catastrophic for who work in rafineries and mining operations because they'd lose their work.

[Wings of Fire]

Yeah not to mention transport and trade would cease and the global economy would grind to a halt.

[mudling]

Global ecconemy? What about Global communications, Global unification, hell, if people don't have veichles without fuel to get anywhere, then it's suddenly a huge world again.

[Bullet Magnet]

That's why we want an alternative energy source.

But the way things are going, the most serious and necessary research will not be funded until we're dangerously short of fuel, and we need conventional fuels to build the infrastructure for the alternative energy sources in the first place.