So... Hurricane Katrina -

paramiteabe · #61 09-13-2005, 07:07 AM

All I have to say is what has happened to us? When 9/11 happened we as a nation came together to fix the situation. Unfortunately not long after, we have become a nation split and unable to assest the situation. The proof of this is the very fact that there is still a fuccking hole where the twin towers use to stand. If I was in charge I would stop at nothing and rebuild the Twin Towers and make them twenty ft higher than what they were originally. That will bring a message to the rest of the world that you haven't destroyed us and we will keep pressing on. "Fucck you world we don't need your help we have capitalism!" Mann won't that piss the Arabs off. You know why there isn't a building at the site of the Twin Towers. Its because of the idiots like Ted Kennedy, and Dick Durban, Howard Dean, the Clintons, and how can I forget the wacko left and I only mean a minor 10% of the population of the US prevent it from happening. My friend is in Iraq and he can't stand the left wing propaganda that has pleagued our world for the last several years.

Nobody could have done anything to prevent this disaster. You can build all of the walls and protection in the world but mother nature "God!" for you Jesus haters out there, will always find a way to overcome it.

I am absolutly disgusted with the government. I am disgusted with congress and the fuccked up burocracy on how they play the blame game. Interesting enough New Orleans is a modern day Sodom and Gomorra. If you ask me New Orleans deserves it.

Jacob · #62 09-13-2005, 07:37 AM

'Interesting enough New Orleans is a modern day Sodom and Gomorra. If you ask me New Orleans deserves it.'

I've heard this argument quite a lot from many of the Right wing preachers and Christians and from having a look at the debauchery that went on in NO, you may have a point.

Then again, America on a whole is a pretty f*cked up country. If the country itself wasn't holding the Spear of Destiny (and i say 'the country itself' in the sense that no one person has the Spear, but it resides in America) you'd've been fooked over aiiiiiges ago. Then again, as soon as you lose the Spear you're screwed, according to legend.

...now, just incase my knowledge of the Spear is wrong and it DOESN'T actually reside in America, feel free to ignore the above statement.

SeaRex · #63 09-13-2005, 07:59 AM

Yeah, and Mississippi was a practical epicenter for liberal thought. You would be hard-pressed to find a right-winger there, of all places.

I guess it deserved it too. All those godless heathens. In Mississippi.

Dipstikk · #64 09-13-2005, 08:11 AM

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If you ask me New Orleans deserves it.

Fuck off and die, Reverend P.A. Nobody diserves to go through what they're going through right now.

And nobody asked you.

Rich · #65 09-13-2005, 08:47 AM

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Interesting enough New Orleans is a modern day Sodom and Gomorra. If you ask me New Orleans deserves it.

Yes. Kill those Liberals like God and Bush told you.
No matter how stupid the people I've seen on the TV following the disaster are, they didn't deserve what happened to them, neither does anyone else.

used:) · #66 09-13-2005, 04:19 PM

The idiot you call Clinton gave our country a surplus of money and prevented war. Bush has scrwed our economy, killed our world, and sent our troops into an unescapable cesspool of fighting. Yes, real idiots you have described, indeed! THEY are the cause of our country's problems. Fuck off asshole and take a clear look at WHO has caused thewse problems.

Kimon · #67 09-13-2005, 07:43 PM

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Yes. Kill those Liberals like God and Bush told you.

Pwned and sigged.

PA, I hope that in hell gay people kick you in the nuts until you can't remember your Bible verses.

Anyway, Hurricane Katrina is (obviously) a huge ****ing catastrophe. It's horrible. People die, live in sewage, and lost their homes. They either stayed there because they didn't have the means to get out or they just couldn't part with their stuff. The poor, poor souls.

They deserved it, though.

Jacob · #68 09-14-2005, 01:48 AM

PA didn't say that there weren't others who deserved it. He merely said the city was a modern day Sodom and Gomorra, which could be said about the vast majority of states/countries and so isn't that far off.

Still, only a couple of hundred have died in Katrina, so God's screwed up somewhere along the line.

paramiteabe · #69 09-14-2005, 07:50 AM

Well don't you think New Orleans deserved it? Think about it, for so long now the city was corrupt and filled with so much godlessness that it was a haven for rapers, criminals, so forth and so on. That alone is asking for trouble. I don't feel sorry for the people who are complaining about their lost goods and crying to us to some how fix the problem. We will do what we can but its up to them to figure the rest out. I am not going to support someone who wants everything from me. Thats not fair on my part. I heard a news artcle the mayor was complaining that we dident send any grills to the people stuck in the city so that they can have a cook out. How can you have a cook out in the middle of distruction? I am sorry I am not going to support a stranger who is crying about his lost life and property. They knew there was a Hurricane comming and they dident do a thing. Its common sense you never under estimate mother nature. I don't care if you are poor or rich if you have two legs you can leave.

This prooves one thing its a major failure of the local governments in the area. Its a failure on everybodies behalf.

Dipstikk · #70 09-14-2005, 08:07 AM

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Think about it, for so long now the city was corrupt and filled with so much godlessness that it was a haven for rapers, criminals, so forth and so on. That alone is asking for trouble.

You've pretty much described every major city in America.

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I don't feel sorry for the people who are complaining about their lost goods and crying to us to some how fix the problem. We will do what we can but its up to them to figure the rest out.

Yeah, because they totally have the resources to get back on track as soon as they can right now.

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I am sorry I am not going to support a stranger who is crying about his lost life and property.

Keep that in mind when someone robs your house blind and nobody lifts a finger to help you.

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They knew there was a Hurricane comming and they dident do a thing about it. Its common sense you never under estimate mother nature. I don't care if you are poor or rich if you have two legs you can leave.

Not all poor people had transportation to leave, and I don't know too many people who can walk the distance of more than 3 states north in the time they were given to prepare for the storm. It's not like they knew about Katrina, like, 3 weeks in advance.

PA, just shut up. Quit being a motherfucking Armchair General, deciding how easy it is/should be for people when you're not even there.

Statikk HDM · #71 09-14-2005, 09:12 AM

PA, you are aware the the New Orleans bowl region is home to hundreds of thousands of impoverished people and some areas have poverty rates well over twice the national average, right? What were they supposed to do, drive the car they don't have with the gas they can't afford 4 states away without prior warning? Get real. Don't blame the local authorities and the victms for Der Chimpenfuhrer's screw ups.
I thought it was real precious how Bush said he'd take "full responsibility" for all the wrongdoings the "federal government" did A.K.A. all the stuff he can't fob off on underfunded local authorities and poor people who just lost EVERYTHING. Its not like responsibility means he'll be punished or censured in any way, so who cares? Gin it up for the cameras and hug some darkies to get your approval rating up. Now watch this drive.

AquaticAmbi · #72 09-14-2005, 02:18 PM

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I heard a news artcle the mayor was complaining that we dident send any grills to the people stuck in the city so that they can have a cook out. How can you have a cook out in the middle of distruction?

I'm just going to take a guess and say it's probably because there's no electricity in some parts and they need some way to cook food that doesn't require it.

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Well don't you think New Orleans deserved it? Think about it, for so long now the city was corrupt and filled with so much godlessness that it was a haven for rapers, criminals, so forth and so on. That alone is asking for trouble. I don't feel sorry for the people who are complaining about their lost goods and crying to us to some how fix the problem. We will do what we can but its up to them to figure the rest out. I am not going to support someone who wants everything from me. Thats not fair on my part.

I am sorry I am not going to support a stranger who is crying about his lost life and property.

Proverbs 25:21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.

Deutermony 15:9
Mathew 25:34-45.
Psalms 82:4
Isaiah 58:5-7

Etc...

Rich · #73 09-14-2005, 02:37 PM

PA, I'm sorry, but you're officially fired from your position as my personal priest, you crazy, christian fundamentalist. Get out of my sight. *cries*

Voodoo Hand · #74 09-14-2005, 03:07 PM

Ok, enough is enough.
I spent last week delivering relief goods along the U.S. Gulf coast,
From Hattiesburg Miss. To Slidell La,just got back yesterday.

I did a combat tour in Viet Nam, have been through monsoons, have
seen the aftermath hurricanes and tornados, but i have never seen any thing
in my life like this. The destruction is indeed of biblical proportion.

The talking heads on CNN and the other “Newsworthy networks” are
all strutting their stuff with in four miles of the gulf, did not see one camera
crew up-country, where the destruction, in some places, is absolute.

Last Friday i spent the afternoon with a six year old boy who lived in a little
peckerwood mill town not far from the La., Miss. Border, about 70 mi. from
New Orleans. His mother told us he has not spoken since” that Monday”.
When the medics put 60 stitches in him, for the wounds he got from airborne
debris, he never made a sound.
His 9 year old sister has not been found.
His dog is dead.
Everything that represented comfort, safety and joy literally vanished before his eyes.

i respect the right of PA and the rest of the self-righteous bible thumpers to state their
feelings.
But i defy you PA, you pious shitbag, to look this child in the eye, and with all the
Righteous indignation you can muster, tell him he fucking DESERVES this!!!

PA need i remind you that New Orleans represents only about 8% of the area
devastated? How do you account for the other 92% ?
Looks like God Almighty might need to work on that smiting thing, you know
tighten up that aim a bit.

As for the rest of you, a 100 year old black lady told me other day that,
” A point`n finger don`t never make a helping hand”
Think about it.
Nuff said.

used:) · #75 09-14-2005, 05:21 PM

Well, in my aetheistic/agnostic/spirtual beliefs, I belive that whenever some bad happens, something equally good must occur and does occur to fill the whole. And vise versa. I can't rreally think of anything thats good that would balance this, so something really good will happen to us. It may happen tomorrow, it may happen in fifty years! But something is bound to happen within the lives of the Katrina victims.

I also agree with VH, I have not seen disasters, but I have seen how truly fortunate we Americans are. You don't see beggers at every corner, you don't see nine years olds juggling for money when they should be in school, you don't have nightwatchers protecting us from robbers, and you don't have a polluted water supply. And it's people like PA who make this world suck so much.

Kimon · #76 09-14-2005, 07:46 PM

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Proverbs 25:21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.

Deutermony 15:9
Mathew 25:34-45.
Psalms 82:4
Isaiah 58:5-7

Etc...

Fucking PWN3D for hypocrisy!!! I love you, Ambi.

Also, I'm thankful for others who have put up a good argument against PA. My unspoken frustration and anger is just that much less hate that has to circulate on these boards.

paramiteabe · #77 09-15-2005, 07:47 AM

No I just don't like it when a disaster strikes and all the people start blameing the government for it. I think that is pretty reasonable. I mean I am hearing people argueing and blaming Bush or who ever for something that is natural.

I don't like it when the blame goes to global warming eather when we do not have one shred of evidance of such conditions only theory and theory just does not cut it with me.

Basically I am sick and tired of propaganda that its become a disease today.
Thats basically why I am the way I am.

Rich · #78 09-15-2005, 08:59 AM

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No I just don't like it when a disaster strikes and all the people start blameing the government for it. I think that is pretty reasonable. I mean I am hearing people argueing and blaming Bush or who ever for something that is natural.

We're not blaming 'Bush or who ever' for the hurricane. We're blaming them for the shit job they did helping the people involved and for sending little to no aid folowing the disaster.

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I don't like it when the blame goes to global warming eather when we do not have one shred of evidance of such conditions only theory and theory just does not cut it with me.

Global warming may just be theory. But theory is all we have. Your precious Christian God is just a theory too, in my eyes, but I know which theory I'd sooner put my faith in...

Hobo · #79 09-15-2005, 12:46 PM

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Thats basically why I am the way I am.

No, that's Down's Syndrome...

used:) · #80 09-15-2005, 12:53 PM

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Basically I am sick and tired of propaganda that its become a disease today.
Thats basically why I am the way I am.

Oh, like the propaganda the Buish Administration has been belching out. Cindy is a koo koo. Yes, what kind of mother would have her child as an honor student? Yup, whacko! Or what about those weapons of mass destruction? We found a hell lot of those in the middle east. Not only is your view diluted by the republican propaganda, but you are ignorant to science. I know plenty of conservatives and independants in my school who agree that global warmimg is very much true.

Statikk HDM · #81 09-15-2005, 01:48 PM

Can we all just agree that Bush didn't create the hurricane? A hurricane occuring is not his fault
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Though the budget slashing of the levees is his fault. As is the patronage and appointment of people who don't know jack about disasters and the useless rathole known as the Department of Homeland Security. Also, ignoring a catastrophe that was predicted for about 40 years and a briefing in 2001 saying that it was the single most damaging thing that could happen to America, yeah, thats his fault. Oh, and whining about 50 billion dollars worth of repairs when he wages a 400 billion dollar war of choice, passes a 1.4 trillion dollar tax cut, and a 400 billion dollar drug plan isn't really his "fault." Its just him being a total douche.
Oh, and just so you know, I think local officials, especially the corrupt Dems in LA and the corrupt Rs in Mississippi have a LOT of blood on their hands.

Kimon · #82 09-15-2005, 05:15 PM

Well, Bush apologized and accepted full responsibilty, for those who care. Actually, I think that's the first honest noble thing he's done in his terms. Thumbs up at him.

Dino · #83 09-15-2005, 05:32 PM

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Well, Bush apologized and accepted full responsibilty, for those who care. Actually, I think that's the first honest noble thing he's done in his terms. Thumbs up at him.

I'd rather put those thumbs up his arse. I can't help but get the feeling that regardless of all the apologies he's made for screwing up with the levees, he still owes an apology to the people who're being treated like British soldiers in a nazi prison camp.

CheeseOfGlory · #84 09-15-2005, 09:28 PM

I didn't write this, but I agree with it 100%, so pretend I did:

I for one am quite ready to pass a big portion of the blame on this whole Katrina mess to the Bush administration simply for being a bunch of ****ing morons and showing that they have the planning ability of a retarded circus monkey. Just because the Bush administration can't control the weather, doesn't mean they can't at least have a tad bit of common sense when planning for natural disasters.

Jacob · #85 09-15-2005, 10:19 PM

'No, that's Down's Syndrome...'

My, my, that made me do my laughing face, that did. Oh. Yes. Indeedy.

Statikk HDM · #86 09-16-2005, 01:57 PM

Kimon: Yeah he "apologized" and said he'd take responsibility. But like I said, when he screws up, people die. The responsibility he takes means nothing to him because nothing happens.
Lets say I commited plagarism in a book report. I later felt really, really bad, admitted the academic dishonesty and said "I take full responsibility." You know what would happen? The prof would think thats just noble as the dickens but I'd still get a zero and I'd still have to rewrite the report.
Meanwhile, Bush admits: "I really screwed the pooch on this one. Thousands died. Hundreds of billions of dollars of property damage also resulted because of my ignorance and grave mismanagement. I take full responsibility."
So what is his punishment? Impeachment for felony endangerment? Does he resign? Does he take a pay cut and stop taking multi-week vacations every third month? No, he takes for responsibility, and nothing happens. Its b.s.
Also, half the reason we are in this situation is because Bush let Mike Brown run FEMA. He worked for the Bush campaign and got the plum job even though he never had experience running disaster programs and was in fact a horse judge. And who gets to clean up the mess? Karl Rove, the deputy campaign runner for Bush who, just like Brown, doesn't know the first thing about managing FEMA.

Statikk HDM · #87 09-16-2005, 02:02 PM

Reply to rebuilding cost: Actually, it could run upwards of a quarter trillion dollars with all of Bush's add on and plans. So, we're 7 trillion dollars in debt as a nation and 11 trillion dollars in debt personally so where is that extra quarter of a trillion dollars going to come from? This administration can't have its cake and eat it. Make a decision: The war, the tax cut, the drug plan and Social Security reform or the recreation of the N.O. bowl. Something's got to give, we just can't keep on maxing out the credit card. When all of this debt finally catches up to America it will be BRUTAL.

Shrink · #88 09-16-2005, 02:13 PM

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No I just don't like it when a disaster strikes and all the people start blameing the government for it. I think that is pretty reasonable. I mean I am hearing people argueing and blaming Bush or who ever for something that is natural.

I don't like it when the blame goes to global warming eather when we do not have one shred of evidance of such conditions only theory and theory just does not cut it with me.

Basically I am sick and tired of propaganda that its become a disease today.
Thats basically why I am the way I am.

You... make... it... too... easy.
I try... I try to resist... but... yes... just one word...
IRONY.

MojoMan220 · #89 09-18-2005, 12:07 PM

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No I just don't like it when a disaster strikes and all the people start blameing the government for it. I think that is pretty reasonable. I mean I am hearing people argueing and blaming Bush or who ever for something that is natural.

Come on just tell us, you're George W. Bush aren't you?

Majic · #90 09-18-2005, 01:28 PM

Q: What does Bush feel about Roe vs Wade?

A: He doesn't care how people get out of New Orleans.

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