Alright, alright. Let's stop calling each other names. Now, I'm not any of your mothers, trust me, but yelling at eachother and calling eachother names is not something that'll progress a discussion. Rather it would turn it into an arguement, or a flame-fest.
Iconoclast, I don't know if you understand this or not, but when you say that they love Oddworld because it is just Oddworld, you are partially correct.
We enjoy the essence that
is Oddworld. We don't merely like Abe because he is blue and talks funny, heavens no. We respect what he stands for, as do you, I'm sure.
If anyone would know what Oddworld stands for, it is Skillya. I've heard what she has had to say on this subject in earlier times, and she is very dedicated to Oddworld.
Now this is where we are all getting mixed up. The side that wants Oddworld Forums to stay the way it is thinks this way because they wish for this site to remain dedicated to Oddworld, as I'm sure you have already assumed. However we wish it to stay this way because we know what
Oddworld stands for, and (hopefully,) we know why this site was built.
Well, even for me this part is getting kind of tricky to explain... so bare with me.
Oddworld is unique, no one here can deny that whilst in their right minds. This forum is unique, from its members to the very core. By adding other games to
this forum, we'd take away form the uniqueness.
Don't get me wrong, other games are unique too, but that's exactly it. It wouldn't remain the
Oddworld Forums, it would be "the collaborative forum of games that are unique."
Yeah we could probably pull that forum off pretty well, with a whole new casket of members waiting to join. It could very well be the most successful forum on the planet. Who knows?
But no matter how successful it would be, for some strange and hard-to-explain reason, it wouldn't have the same feeling. IT wouldn't have that glow, that attracted many of us here in the first place.
Many people think that this forum is boring, and they may be right! It could be downright boring right now, with nothing of super-importance to discuss. Granted there are some good art pages, and some good fan-fics.
But think of OWF as a balloon for a minute, and please don't pop it, I don't want to clean up the mess. *eyes everyone* Okay, now imagine OWI as blowing air made of ideas, games, and movies into it. Our little balloon gets larger and larger, more active and more active. So they stopped blowing for a moment in time. We still have air in the balloon. We still have purpose to not totally change what we are now. All we have to do is be patient, and wait for CS and all that other stuff to come out.
even if (note I said
If) Cs turns out to be bad with not too much attention drawn to it, we will still have something to keep this place going.
But I doubt CS will be bad at all. Think about the poeple that are making it. The very same people that have brought us AO, AE, MO, and SW. We are looking at something at
least mildly entertaining to say the least of the least.
As another point that many people have stated, another sister forum would be great. We could draw people there if they wanted to gpo, and eventually they could find themselves in the OWF. Bonus all around there!
Mostly, all I'm trying to say is:
1) Let's not turn this discussion into a flame-fight.
2) We are mis-understanding eachother
3) OWF isn't dead, nor dying. It's just relatively unactive for a period of time.
4) Building a second forum would be nice. We don't necessarily need to change
this one.
5) I can type a lot if I really want to...
Now excuse me while I go and fix my fingers...
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