Anyone play?

[Slog Bait]

I think Ponyfucker won that round because I was able to listen to it without wanting to scream at the repetition until half way through.

You're getting better slowly but surely, Nep.

[Git'Im]

What's the most audiosexual thing you've done?

IT'S NOT FINISHED YET IT'LL BE REALLY GOOD ONCE IT'S DONE

I've composed myself fapping to a steady rhythm. It's coming out soon

[Nepsotic]

So... you're gonna remove everything and start from scratch?

Are you actually being serious? Is it the mixing? I know I haven't mixed or mastered properly yet.

I think Ponyfucker won that round because I was able to listen to it without wanting to scream at the repetition until half way through.

You're getting better slowly but surely, Nep.

Thank you, brother.

Your move, Steaming_Turd.
(I couldn't think of anything rude that rhymed with King)

[Varrok]

Are you actually being serious? Is it the mixing? I know I haven't mixed or mastered properly yet.

The main tune, while isn't (I HOPE) just some random notes glued together (I smell progress), is completely, totally forgettable. You can't make anything good out of a forgettable tune. The second problem is that... it's just one riff. Repeated over and over again, with minor changes. One, bland riff. Also, that whole 'drop bass' is random and doesn't really add anything good to the song.

[Nepsotic]

The main tune, while isn't (I HOPE) just some random notes glued together (I smell progress), is completely, totally forgettable. You can't make anything good out of a forgettable tune. The second problem is that... it's just one riff. Repeated over and over again, with minor changes. One, bland riff. Also, that whole 'drop bass' is random and doesn't really add anything good to the song.

Dubstep is repetetive. And the whole song itself is building up to the drop, which I hope will be eargasmic once it's mastered. There are loads of songs like it, LOADS, the only difference is I like to add some melody into mine.

Skip to 00:50


See? I like to have the basses of classic dubstep, but as heavy as new dubstep, with some melodic melody. Aren't I special?

if I'm being honest I genuinly thought I had a nice melody going on there, even my brother liked it. But I guess not

[Git'Im]

Wobwobwob

[Varrok]

Dubstep is repetetive. And the whole song itself is building up to the drop, which I hope will be eargasmic once it's mastered. There are loads of songs like it, LOADS, the only difference is I like to add some melody into mine.

I never said dubstep is good music genre.

if I'm being honest I genuinly thought I had a nice melody going on there, even my brother liked it. But I guess not

Medicore at best, and you can't have more honest opinion than mine (I'd say that it's good if it was good, I'm not filled with hate or anything)

[Nepsotic]

I never said dubstep is good music genre.

There is no "good" or "bad" in music genres. There's only good or bad in music.

[Varrok]

There is no "good" or "bad" in music genres. There's only good or bad in music.

Well, in that case, I guess every song from those LOADS of repetetive dubstep songs sucks balls.

[Mr. Bungle]

Bad genres are genres with more bad than good, in my opinon. In that case, I consider dubstep to be a bad genre.

Of course this is all objective, but there's my stance.

[Phylum]

Having straight 4s in the bass go against that motif doesn't really work, especially when the attack on that sound is so delayed. I think I know why it doesn't work, but I'm not certain enough to really give it as public feedback.

Varrok's kindof right about the melody, but hie missed the mark because it's not really melodic. This is crying out to be the harmonic basis for an electronic piece. Take this idea away from dubstep and see where it goes. Trust me.

Also, why do you post so many half finished pieces?

[Mr. Bungle]

why do you post so many half finished pieces?

This.

[Nate]

This is not a "Let's discuss Nepsotic's 'music'" thread.

Nepsotic: if you want to show off your 'work', post it in NOAL.

[Varrok]

I actually endorse the idea of making a thread there where people post their music and others judge. It's too spammy for blog posts

[Slog Bait]

That would still be something to put under NOA&L. Now whether or not people who don't frequent the fan corner will be in on it is an entirely different issue.

Also I know another instrument I play: the pencil. I pencil good.

[Nate]

That would still be something to put under NOA&L. Now whether or not people who don't frequent the fan corner will be in on it is an entirely different issue.

I think the better question is whether people who don't frequent the fan corner want to be in on it.

The answer, in case you're wondering, is 'no'.

[Slog Bait]

I thought by saying 'will' I managed to group in 'want' as one of reasons people wouldn't be in on it.

Regardless, unless a handful of people stay devoted to the thread it will die rather quickly.

[Nate]

Regardless, unless a handful of people stay devoted to the thread it will die rather quickly.

And the downside to that is?

[Steamer_KING]

Your move, Steaming_Turd.
(I couldn't think of anything rude that rhymed with King)

Alright then...
First of all, you don't even know what you're actually listening.

It's not Excision - Bass Canon but Excision & Downlink - Existence VIP, which means you don't really know what you're really "studying", which invalidates your argument of learning others "techniques". And this comes from someone who doesn't really know the "MODERN DUBSTEP SCENE".

Second, your argument of how the music should be is absurd.

Dubstep is repetetive. And the whole song itself is building up to the drop, which I hope will be eargasmic once it's mastered. There are loads of songs like it, LOADS, the only difference is I like to add some melody into mine.

This is clearly a statement of someone who has passion, but don't know where it should be directed, because you have no clue whatsoever of what is happening in the song. I'm not going to say that it's just a phase, because you really seem invested in making this type of music. But that's what it really seems. Music shouldn't be repetitive. It should have some kind of form, even if it doesn't follow the rules of the genre, it still needs form and execution. Being repetitive because "that's what's everybody's doing" is never an argument. Ever.

Third and final, because this post is practically off-topic, I did that music in an app, just fooling around and not getting my heart on it, because I wasn't supposed to. And people seem to say that both are shit. And I agree, but the thing is, is that you put your heart on making it. I did not.

I win.

[Nepsotic]

It's not Excision - Bass Canon but Excision & Downlink - Existence VIP

REALLY?! I do know this, but "Bass Cannon" was the video title. Did I upload that video? (No, I did not). I have the song on a CD for fucks sake.

This is clearly a statement of someone who has passion, but don't know where it should be directed, because you have no clue whatsoever of what is happening in the song. I'm not going to say that it's just a phase, because you really seem invested in making this type of music. But that's what it really seems. Music shouldn't be repetitive. It should have some kind of form, even if it doesn't follow the rules of the genre, it still needs form and execution. Being repetitive because "that's what's everybody's doing" is never an argument. Ever.

That isn't my argument. Fuck, I'm not doing that. The genre is repetetive. I'm just making music in that genre. Technically it isn't even dubstep but fuck, it has structure.

Third and final, because this post is practically off-topic, I did that music in an app, just fooling around and not getting my heart on it, because I wasn't supposed to. And people seem to say that both are shit. And I agree, but the thing is, is that you put your heart on making it. I did not.

Okay. i guess i'm just not cut out to be a musician then

[Mr. Bungle]

Been playing around with Open C tuning a lot lately. I like it. It's great for acoustic relaxing jamming, very easy to do nice sounding tranquil fingerpicking and such.

[Mac Sirloin]

Okay. i guess i'm just not cut out to be a musician then

If you can't actually play any instruments I don't see why you'd think you were.

And I don't mean take lessons or study the instrument in books (although those are great ideas) just find a cheap-as-free Wal Mart guitar or similar and play it until it falls apart. Get a metronome too. I'm not going to say that it will be overnight (it won't) but if you do this you will see an improvement in your music that you possibly never anticipated. Clearly you're familiar enough with the program to make music, now become familiar enough with music to make GOOD music.

Last night I spent an hour on the porch jamming on bass. My porch faces a pretty broad slab of concrete canyon and the noise carries very well, so I had a bit of fun playing around with my tuning (and my beloved Boss Distortion Pedal). Nobody screamed 'SHUT THE FUCK UP' which was literally my only fear. I think some people from the apartment building two doors down actually came out to listen for a bit. I'm planning on making it a regular thing.

[Varrok]

Listen to him.

[Mac Sirloin]

fuck

my mom's dog ate all my cords

i want to shit in that dogs heart

[Varrok]

...At least he's got a taste in music?

[STM]

[Mac Sirloin]

I feel obligated to correct myself, at length. I've been reading some more in depth Music Theory books (from the fifties, they're full of references to 'qualities found in negro music'.) and I'm getting a vibe that my opinion that producing music without an instrument is not being a musician is innapropriate on a few levels. First of all, pretty much anything can be music.
You can fart on a sandwich and tonal shift it into a beautiful something or other. Further, composing music which is literally giving music a medium to translate to other people is musicianship in a pretty pure form, on paper or a mixer or a shittastic casio, whatever.
So I think my point is that while I have a bit of a pretentious appreciation for people who went balls to the wall and spent 10 years practicing an instrument and refining their bullshit to be able to play like no one else, that's a pretty fucking tiny portion of most musicians out there and doesn't give credence to the process of learning to identify how notes and melodies are supposed to tie together, which is universal to learning to create music. Maybe. Like I said I just started reading these books.

In saying this, I feel like following up with a good old "most electronic music feels like the atonal acid trip afterbirth of european Disco and R&B."

[Varrok]

EDIT: Apparently that's not a TL;DR version of the post above:

I meant to say "producing music without an instrument is not being a good musician, sorry"

[Mac Sirloin]

That is not what I meant.

[Git'Im]

Anyways... what was your first guitar riff you learned?

Come as you are for me.

When I first started it took me a while to play and sing at the same time..no idea why but my riff would totally be off if I sang the lyrics to it.