How does Abe breath?

[Jordan]

I should be able to have a look at those Mudokon skeletons, I'm getting the Art book for christmas, finally!

[snuzi]

Lucky. I want that book so badly, and if I had it, it'd make topics like this easier to contribute to.

[Xavier]

I just too a look and I can confirm his skull has no extra holes for something that could be a nose.

[glokstar]

Here is a skeleton i have from a "secret" place . Its not very informing but its the best so far.
There are no holes on the skull for this one either.

[Jordan]

Hey! I want to see that DVD so much, you could have put a spoiler message above the picture! >.<

[looney-bin]

Here is a skeleton from the Bonus DVD. Its ot very informing but its the best so far.
There are no holes on the skull for this one either.

I might know what that is. Originaly in AE, there were going to be zombies in the Necrum burial grounds, but for some reason they weren't in the final product.

[Jordan]

Zombies would be so funny! Ah, I'm tempted to spam coz I've just been random spamming Lord Vulcher's forum, it felt so good to do that!
My name is I_Hate_Creator on the site! Lolness!

[Zerox]

They were to be called Mudombies; dead Mudokon spirits angry about disturbance of their resting place; in other words, crawling, idiot Mudokons.
Checked Art book, page 41. Look closely at the side and front Abe skeletons.between the eye sockets, slightly above them, are two little 'dents' or holes. Could these be possible nostril areas, particularly when thinking of closeness to birds and where nostrils would have been on beak (especially note how the skeleton featured was an updated version, particularly when looking at the hands with only 2 fingers and a thumb, rather than the original 3 fingers)

[snuzi]

I just too a look and I can confirm his skull has no extra holes for something that could be a nose.

Well, there ya go, everyone. We now know that mudokons do not have noses.

[glokstar]

Hey! I want to see that DVD so much, you could have put a spoiler message above the picture! >.<

Well sorry, Jordan_Boi, im just trying to contribute something to the discussion here. :S

[Jordan]

Don't worry, just try to put spoiler messages above the thing, okay dude?

[Slaveless]

They don't have holes. They're slits above the Mudokons skull. Besides, Mudokons don't have noses for sure. They have nostrils. If you looked above Abe's eyes on the front of AO and AE disks, there are little slits. These might be something that might point out to nostrils. Not something huge, but still.

[glokstar]

Don't worry, just try to put spoiler messages above the thing, okay dude?

What exactly is a spoiler message?

[snuzi]

Um, a message about spoiling the plot or ending of something?

i.e. The contents of the bonus DVD?

[Nate]

That doesn't count as a spoiler really. The contents of the DVD (and everything else we know regarding OWI atm) are considered General Discussion these days.

[glokstar]

Well im sorry. I actually thought you would be happy to know that pic is from the*edit* "secret place". I would have been happy to know... But dont worry there are planty of things on that *edit* "secret place" that you dont know about and i have not spoiled it for u.
On other forums they have never asked me to write spoiler messages on such things, but then im not on many forums. I only care about OW.

So now that i know, next time ill try to pay attention.

P.S. And ill edit that post for u if u want, so thet it is not spoiled for others

[Jordan]

Lol, Glokstar, just drop it, I was being a muppet, don't listen to me!
It's just... I get touchy about not having the DVD, but now I'm happy to have seen that zombie lol, I'm sorry!

[glokstar]

Haha, whats funny is that i dont have the damn thing either, on ly the vob files that are incomplete. So the thing video content jumps around randomly. Its quite annoying. I gave up on having it... the only seeder desappeared :S

Anyway, sorry for spamming. Back to respiratory issues.

[Zerox]

Been having a good look at this image.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/psx/od...ysee_front.jpg
Really can't see anything...but I was just thinking...some amphibians breath through their skin, at least partially, right? So is it possible Mudokons have evolved to be able to breath like this?

[Jordan]

The link's broken, do you think you could fix it? Thankyou

[Wil]

I thought that image was of a very poorly Mudokon, as per the Health State progression that was planned for Munch’s Oddysee. I also don’t know whether Mudombies were actually planned for gameplay. But I had always thought Mudokons had nostrils above and between their eyes—​which is something of a motif for inhabitant design.

[skillya_glowi]

Ah, I'm tempted to spam coz I've just been random spamming Lord Vulcher's forum, it felt so good to do that!
My name is I_Hate_Creator on the site! Lolness!

And I'm Monsieur Arsehole, but I got banned very quickly. Welcome to the club!

... Damn, serious off-topicking.

I thought that image was of a very poorly Mudokon, as per the Health State progression that was planned for Munch’s Oddysee

Wasn't that the one where it said "What little I get is toxic" picture though? That one that Glokstar put down wasn't it, I think.

[Xavier]

http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/archi...=RAMO0097.jpg4

this is more a mudokon that has been exposed to a lot of unplesant stuff

[Zerox]

That looks...painful.
Jordan Boi, that's a picture of Abe from the cover of the AO game, and the link works for me.

[SilverTwilight05]

It always looked to me that Mudokons should have noses up between their eyes...but I could never seen any nostrils that would empty into a nasal cavity. Though, that would explain the tone of their voices...
Anyway, I think a while back someone mentioned that perhaps there were olfactory organs in their mouths, which would allow them to smell things without having to put a nose on their faces.

[Jordan]

Ooh... That Mudokon looks very sore! I wonder what happened to the poor guy? Did he eat something really hot or poisonous?

[Zerox]

As for that half dead Mudokon, is he just malnourished? Because he reminds me of those skeleton children from Africa when they don't get enough food to eat...
Where'd that picture come from?

[Xavier]

It was from some content published on gamespot, I think it's removed now

[glokstar]

Spoiler!!!!

I found it on the OW Bonus DVD.

EDIT: Oh, never mind u didnt mean what i posted, sorry.

[Firetalion]

Well, the thread started out, "How does Abe breath?", and the answer to that is obviously through his mouth. I think you answered that already, and I don't mean to sound pompus or anything, but

He breathes through his mouth, because it would be just like the gluckons to even work to control their slaves breathing. They have no other air holes, and even the ones with stitched lips can open their mouths if they work for it and stretch their skin hard enough. Making them work to breath, with a side effect of not being able to easily talk, or eat either for that matter, sounds like industrial oddworld 100%.

As for if and how they smell... From the thought I've put into it, I'll have to go with they don't have any sense of smell. Not a physical one like humans or dogs would have at least. In their earlier sketches in the art book, the guy who would end up as Abe started out by looking basically amphibian. Or of the close relative of an amphibian. Looking at Abe close like that, you really get an idea that he can't smell. I sure as hell wouldn't want to evolve a sense of smell in the places mudokons need to go to work, and what they needed to work around.

Your guess is as good as mine tho.