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Manco · #61 05-22-2011, 08:22 AM

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Have you considered that perhaps the 'real world' (or at least your perceptions and values therein) are out of touch with the true, deeper reality that is only revealed through religion?

It's perfectly feasible to have deep spiritual fulfilment and at the same time enjoy sex.

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Can God control the internet and does he know everything that goes on there? He made everything but then there has only been computers for fifty years and the 'internet' isn't actually physical...I confue myself.

The internet is basically just electrical currents moving around the world between computers (both of which can be broken down into atoms), so yeah no the internet is actually physical.

RoryF · #62 05-22-2011, 08:29 AM

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The internet is basically just electrical currents moving around the world between computers (both of which can be broken down into atoms), so yeah no the internet is actually physical.

So, God can be a mod of the entire internet, and edit anything recieved by computers through the currents?
I would love to do that!

I would edit the posts so they say something naughty hohoho =)

Phylum · #63 05-23-2011, 12:19 AM

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I got an A+ for debating successfully on whether religion and God has caused more good than harm

You're saying you're a good debater because you did well in a highschool debate?

Wings of Fire · #64 05-23-2011, 12:29 AM

I have a fucking qualification in debating. At post high-school level no less.

CrissCross · #65 05-23-2011, 12:39 AM

im good at debating because i talk so fast and make no sense that thy pants machine makes a mix of good jelly butter peanut requiem for a nyeaaa???

(this is why i'm single)

Dynamithix · #66 05-23-2011, 01:11 AM

what.

Wings of Fire · #67 05-23-2011, 01:12 AM

I believe that's commonly refered to as Argumentum ad Fucktardium.

STM · #68 05-23-2011, 01:39 AM

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You're saying you're a good debater because you did well in a highschool debate?

No because I can fucking hold my part, this is just a single instance of how awesome I am.

CrissCross · #69 05-23-2011, 01:43 AM

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I believe that's commonly refered to as Argumentum ad Fucktardium.

What.

Manco · #70 05-23-2011, 01:48 AM

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No because I can fucking hold my part

Evidence would suggest otherwise.

CrissCross · #71 05-23-2011, 01:54 AM

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Evidence would suggest otherwise.

burn!

Wings of Fire · #72 05-23-2011, 02:09 AM

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What.

It means I don't like your posts.

Dynamithix · #73 05-23-2011, 02:14 AM

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No because I can fucking hold my part, this is just a single instance of how awesome I am.

Oh please, you just turn everything into a religious argument and use the word "fucking" in every sentence.

I can see how mature and awesome you are, yes.

***Nate*** · #74 05-23-2011, 03:42 AM

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So long as I'm here, that won't happen.

It's already happening. See: My last post.

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It's perfectly feasible to have deep spiritual fulfilment and at the same time enjoy sex.

Where did I say it wasn't feasible? I was talking about the concept of Christian spirituality.

If you're going to try to debate someone, you really need to put in the slightest of efforts towards understanding their point of view.

STM · #75 05-23-2011, 06:48 AM

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Oh please, you just turn everything into a religious argument and use the word "fucking" in every sentence.

I can see how mature and awesome you are, yes.

Eh, I never said I was mature, quite the contrary, and if you had the common decency to flick back a few posts you'd realise I said 'to hold and argument RL', (paraphrase)

Oh and erm, I made a religious argument, here and in the God debate...because well, it's all to do with this thing called Religion.

Bullet Magnet · #76 05-23-2011, 06:52 AM

Maybe the Rapture did happen, and no one made the grade.

STM · #77 05-23-2011, 07:00 AM

Mmm, not one person...and if you look out the window, you'll see all those minor demons wreaking havoc...although we could see Iran as the evil guys the Bible talk about.

Manco · #78 05-23-2011, 08:10 AM

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It's already happening. See: My last post.

Where did I say it wasn't feasible? I was talking about the concept of Christian spirituality.

If you're going to try to debate someone, you really need to put in the slightest of efforts towards understanding their point of view.

All I'm saying is that it seems strange that a heaven would lack any physical pleasures.

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although we could see Iran as the evil guys the Bible talk about.

what

T-nex · #79 05-23-2011, 08:12 AM

If the need for physical pleasure in heaven was removed... wouldn't that have defeated the whole purpose of free will?

Wouldn't that make god a brainwashing bastard?? :S

STM · #80 05-23-2011, 08:18 AM

We don't know, there's not enough information on Heaven for us to base any form of analysis on, don't make such accusations, especially if they are so offensively construed.

T-nex · #81 05-23-2011, 08:26 AM

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We don't know, there's not enough information on Heaven for us to base any form of analysis on, don't make such accusations, especially if they are so offensively construed.

How is that offensive? Really... This wasn't even directed at you.

It was a half-joke really.... But now that I think about it. If our craves and needs DID get removed in heaven, that would be very scary, because that means our entire persona would be altered, meaning we become someone we weren't initially. So it would be a form of brainwashing. I wouldn't like that

STM · #82 05-23-2011, 08:30 AM

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Wouldn't that make god a brainwashing bastard?? :S

I'm gonna go ahead and quote this, I'll leave you to decide whether or not that might offend someone of a religious nature. Whether or not that is of any importance to you any way is something else entirely.

The thing is, we don't know, we simply don't, until we die it's unlikely we will, I am in the same boat as you in that I too would like to remember my old life, even if it is only the good stuff for example. I don't think it's in God's nature to rewire our brains to make us apathetic when Heaven is practically over flowing with love as Jesus stated to us (paraphr.)

T-nex · #83 05-23-2011, 08:35 AM

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I'm gonna go ahead and quote this, I'll leave you to decide whether or not that might offend someone of a religious nature. Whether or not that is of any importance to you any way is something else entirely.

The point is... It was a question. Not stating a fact... Thus taking offense to a mere question is stretching it by far.
I know we don't know anything, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss anything. The point of discussions is to present a topic and take it from there. You cant force people to discuss something just because it's abstract and unknowable.
Then what is the point of discussing anything spiritually?

The fact that we don't even know anything is is why you shouldn't take offense as I didn't present it as a fact.

God... explaining jokes sucks...

STM · #84 05-23-2011, 08:37 AM

Sorry, just doesn't seem a very nice joke. Jokes make people laugh but I cried. =*(

XD

Manco · #85 05-23-2011, 09:07 AM

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God... explaining jokes sucks...

"Why do you think I've never explained the meaning of life?"
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T-nex · #86 05-23-2011, 09:14 AM

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"Why do you think I've never explained the meaning of life?"
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Goddamn, I can't posrep you XD

***Nate*** · #87 05-24-2011, 03:46 AM

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All I'm saying is that it seems strange that a heaven would lack any physical pleasures.

Why would it have physical pleasures? You won't have a physical body. You'll be a being of pure spirit.

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If the need for physical pleasure in heaven was removed... wouldn't that have defeated the whole purpose of free will?

The purpose of free will is to test you down on earth. What's the point of having it in Heaven?

MeechMunchie · #88 05-24-2011, 05:41 AM

Because without it we wouldn't be us. What's the point of being a person who earns paradise if you're no longer that person when you get there? They may as well have just cut out the living bit.

T-nex · #89 05-24-2011, 05:56 AM

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Because without it we wouldn't be us. What's the point of being a person who earns paradise if you're no longer that person when you get there? They may as well have just cut out the living bit.

This pretty much...

Maybe my 'new' person will be happy with the way things are in heaven... And that Nikki will have fun and be free forever. But me... as I am now, will be dead.

The only way I will still be me in heaven would be if I changed my persona on my own, with no magical powers and such.

I mean we change as people all the time, but it mostly comes from within. If we drastically turn because of outside factors, that is called brainwashing.... or magic... Either way, it will have been 'someone' that changed us.

To me that is the same as being killed.

STM · #90 05-24-2011, 06:01 AM

I think Nexy, you don't have to worry, because although it is true that this life is a test for the next, why bother testing us if we didn't have free will in Heaven? It doesn't make sense. =)