aliens and astronomy -

Dixanadu · #**631** 07-31-2011, 08:15 AM

If you do come, you'll have to leave your precious bees behind.

Bullet Magnet · #**632** 07-31-2011, 08:42 AM

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i couldnt find the exact same thing that was in croatian but i found something similar also saying that there are unidentified huge objects heading towards earth and are near pluto.

http://www.bombshock.com/aliens-and-...rds-earth.html

You got a good source for that, poindexter?

STM · #**633** 07-31-2011, 09:02 AM

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If you do come, you'll have to leave your precious bees behind.

No, I'll put a fertile queen in a matchbox and take a packet of sugar.

Bullet Magnet · #**634** 07-31-2011, 09:07 AM

That'll do it. I don't fancy its future genetic potential, though.

STM · #**635** 07-31-2011, 09:24 AM

It'll have some retard degenerate descendants somewhere down the line but...I can't think of any other way to hide the bees from the Annukai.

Dixanadu · #**636** 07-31-2011, 07:43 PM

*ANNUNAKI

LDG519 · #**637** 07-31-2011, 11:46 PM

I'll make this bull speech about saving the animals cause we need a viable food source, and than I'll tell scrabtrapman were they stored the bees

Scraby · #**638** 07-31-2011, 11:51 PM

http://www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/...luto-will.html this is something more like i read in croatian,when they reatch mars ill buy a better telescope to observe

edit:i found somewhere that new crop circles started to appear looking like formations forming a map or something....

LDG519 · #**639** 08-01-2011, 12:00 AM

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http://www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/...luto-will.html this is something more like i read in croatian,when they reatch mars ill buy a better telescope to observe

edit:i found somewhere that new crop circles started to appear looking like formations forming a map or something....

crop circles are always manmade, if aliens wanted to come in secret they'd know better than to leave a big crop circle were they landed, and if they didn't want to come in secret they would fly in plain sight, broadcast messages and all that

Scraby · #**640** 08-01-2011, 12:09 AM

yeah but who knows what type of communication devices are they using,mabe our communications to them look like stone age transmitters.One thing is why nasa cant find any transmitting signals in space,mabe they are using faster than light communication or something like that.

LDG519 · #**641** 08-01-2011, 12:29 AM

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yeah but who knows what type of communication devices are they using,mabe our communications to them look like stone age transmitters.One thing is why nasa cant find any transmitting signals in space,mabe they are using faster than light communication or something like that.

that's true, but any alien arrival other than intentionally stealth arrivals, would mostlikely hit the headlines pretty quickly, and as for why nasa can't find any signals, space is big, plus there was the wow signal

Bullet Magnet · #**642** 08-01-2011, 09:09 AM

Can't draw extraordinary conclusions from the Wow signal.

Scraby · #**643** 08-01-2011, 11:17 AM

Yeah i heard about it but i think it was an hello signal,or whatever... as for signals im not sure if a planet from another solar system that would like to send a message to another one im sure they wouldnt use standard equipement,as for that signal that was been heard that might be a ship to ship transmit

STM · #**644** 08-01-2011, 11:43 AM

By the time a radio transmission reached us from another habitable planet, it would just be squishy background noise.

Bullet Magnet · #**645** 08-01-2011, 11:45 AM

You've jumped from "brief narrow band radio spike of unknown origin" to "intercepted alien spacecraft communication!" with nothing in between.

STM · #**646** 08-01-2011, 11:58 AM

Oh. Well, I'll just be off then.

Bullet Magnet · #**647** 08-01-2011, 01:34 PM

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Oh. Well, I'll just be off then.

Not you. Scraby.

It's not always about you, STM. Though I notice that it quite often is, so I see where you made your mistake.

STM · #**648** 08-02-2011, 09:55 AM

Ah good, I because I re-read the post and couldn't quite spot my mistake. Makes a nice change that for once I'm not radicalising.

Oh and by the way I did a little research on that image Scraby put up and SETI denounced it as a big fat hoax.

STM · #**649** 08-05-2011, 12:18 PM

Sorry for double post but:

LIQUID WATER ON MARS!

any one else heard about this amazing news? http://sierramadre.patch.com/article...-water-on-mars is just one of the news sites showing it.

jumper · #**650** 08-05-2011, 01:12 PM

Except it's not confirmed.

Dixanadu · #**651** 08-06-2011, 06:29 AM

It is confirmed. It's all over the god-damn news.

They believe the liquid flow only occurs on the warm months of Mars' climate.

So everyone grab your swimming trunks!

STM · #**652** 08-06-2011, 07:43 AM

It's all really salty as well and the pictures they found are probably of really muddy water as well and that's why the streaks are so dark.

LDG519 · #**653** 08-10-2011, 12:10 AM

if the universe is expanding than could the space time fabric be getting thinner as a result?

if this is so than it would be becoming easier to bend or fold or whatever, and as gravity folds or bends space time gravity would be increasing in streanth as time progresses, so has there been any indication of gravity being weaker in the past?

also I think time dialation would effect light that we see, as light leaves the gravity of the source and leaves the field of time dialition from said gravity the light ahead would be going faster in time than the light behind and thus would get extra scattered, and when entering the gravity and timedialation of our solarsystem and or galaxy the light ahead would be moving slower through time than the light behind making the light get compacted, any time dialation inbetween would get fixed as it leaves, so it would depend on the differences in time speed for the source and destination (us) on how much the light is altered, if it comes from a gravity source stronger than us than it would be more scattered than normal and if it comes from a gravity source weaker than us than it would be more compressed than normal.

just a few things I've been thinking about.

Bullet Magnet · #**654** 08-11-2011, 11:56 AM

No, no and not really. Space doesn't stretch thin like matter does, it's a dimension. It is the room in which things might spread. There is no indication of the force of gravity changing or its effects being the result of anything but mass and the proximity of masses to one another.

Light is both a wave and a particle, but its weirdness does not stop there. It already travels at the speed of light, so if time actually affects it it is already stopped. As a wave it exits in the medium of electromagnetic fields, as a particle it is a massless boson that mediates the electromagnetic force. Time dilation doesn't really affect it, and nor does relative speed: even if you are travelling at the speed of light, all light reaches you and is emitted by you at the speed of light relative to you. And relative to everything else. Don't worry that relativity and quantum physics doesn't compute, your brain genuinely lacks the operating system necessary to run this data.

What gravity does do to light is bend it. Light is affected by gravity so its path is curved by curved space-time. One effect of this is gravitational lensing: some distant stars and other objects appear greatly distorted and even duplicate and multiplied due to the light being bent around galaxies and black holes.

STM · #**655** 08-11-2011, 12:09 PM

Is that not also the reason why start appear to twinkle in the night sky? (Stellar scintillation for BM) Or is that more to do with a thick atmosphere? I can't remember if it's both or one of the two.

LDG519 · #**656** 08-11-2011, 01:59 PM

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No, no and not really. Space doesn't stretch thin like matter does, it's a dimension. It is the room in which things might spread. There is no indication of the force of gravity changing or its effects being the result of anything but mass and the proximity of masses to one another.

Light is both a wave and a particle, but its weirdness does not stop there. It already travels at the speed of light, so if time actually affects it it is already stopped. As a wave it exits in the medium of electromagnetic fields, as a particle it is a massless boson that mediates the electromagnetic force. Time dilation doesn't really affect it, and nor does relative speed: even if you are travelling at the speed of light, all light reaches you and is emitted by you at the speed of light relative to you. And relative to everything else. Don't worry that relativity and quantum physics doesn't compute, your brain genuinely lacks the operating system necessary to run this data.

What gravity does do to light is bend it. Light is affected by gravity so its path is curved by curved space-time. One effect of this is gravitational lensing: some distant stars and other objects appear greatly distorted and even duplicate and multiplied due to the light being bent around galaxies and black holes.

so light is completely unaffected by time dialation? so if time was at a complete stop the light would still be able to move through it? and how do they tell the difference between two objects or one object that has been duplicated with bent light?

Pilot · #**657** 08-11-2011, 06:06 PM

The Annunaki aren't coming back.

Bullet Magnet · #**658** 08-12-2011, 07:12 AM

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Is that not also the reason why start appear to twinkle in the night sky? (Stellar scintillation for BM) Or is that more to do with a thick atmosphere? I can't remember if it's both or one of the two.

That's all atmospheric refraction. If it were lensing, there would have to be galaxies jumping back and forth by thousands of lightyears every twinkle. That's quite a bit faster than the universal speed limit.

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so light is completely unaffected by time dialation? so if time was at a complete stop the light would still be able to move through it? and how do they tell the difference between two objects or one object that has been duplicated with bent light?

They can tell the difference because they look the same. Stars and galaxies are all different.

If time was at a stop, light would also be at a stop, there being only one moment to exist in means there is no movement. That is not the same as time dilation.

It's complicated.

Dixanadu · #**659** 08-12-2011, 09:18 AM

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The Annunaki aren't coming back.

You're getting left behind.

STM · #**660** 08-12-2011, 10:14 AM

I'll save him, he can hide with the bees.