After Death -

Jacob · #31 11-17-2003, 10:36 AM

PA, according to your religion when a person dies they go to Heaven. If you're lucky enough you'll have a near death experience and see them in Heaven. They DO NOT come back down to earth to tell you random things such as "It'll be okay, Luke, the force is with you." no, they don't. They stay in Heaven and watch over you.

Obviously, this contradicts all Christians and God-like peeps who have seen their deceased people mill around among us.

However, this does back up one of my theories [that we just go onto a next life] due to the fact that this means that the deceased are just in another plane of existance and, at specific times, can breach from their world to ours.

And can people please stop stating their theories as if its fact, you may believe you have evidence, but you don't, its your faith thats the evidence and faith means nothing when it comes down to solid facts.

Do a Ouija board, find out the truth...

paramiteabe · #32 11-17-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
PA, according to your religion when a person dies they go to Heaven. If you're lucky enough you'll have a near death experience and see them in Heaven. They DO NOT come back down to earth to tell you random things such as "It'll be okay, Luke, the force is with you." no, they don't. They stay in Heaven and watch over you.

Obviously, this contradicts all Christians and God-like peeps who have seen their deceased people mill around among us.

However, this does back up one of my theories [that we just go onto a next life] due to the fact that this means that the deceased are just in another plane of existance and, at specific times, can breach from their world to ours.

And can people please stop stating their theories as if its fact, you may believe you have evidence, but you don't, its your faith thats the evidence and faith means nothing when it comes down to solid facts.

Do a Ouija board, find out the truth...

In your mind they contact you in that way. In the phisical sense they werant really there. I tend to believe that spirits use our dreams to talk to us since they can't phisically talk to us. So its logical to assume that there really is an existence after life when you belong to a faith that teaches that.

mitsur · #33 11-17-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by paramiteabe
There is an afterlife and there is a Heven and a Hell. These places are real and well you don't have to believe me but they do exist. As God as my wittness they exist. Throughout my life I have had expierences which made me sort of understand the truth than how I was when I was younger. When my grandfather died years ago the night after he died I couldn't sleep. I felt a sudden rush of cold air and a presence among me and I had goose bumps. Honest to god I saw an outline of what it appeared to be my grandfather telling me that everything is just fine. Ever since I know that the after life truely exist. I am also a Catholic and well that strengthens my belief. when someone dies. don't weep by that grave for it is merely a bag of bones. That person is not there. For that person is alive. Heven and Hell is not what you think it is. In this new age the generation tend to think that we become individual gods when we pass they don't believe that there is only one God whome exist outside of us.

The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are three as one God.

Right on Pari!*makes a "V" with fingers*

I beleive when you die you come before God and only those who beleive in him can look him straight in the eye. If you don't, God will know you don't accept him and you go to hell. Some of you might be thinking, "Why the hell would such a loving God send us to hell?" Thats an easy one. You had your whole life to try to accept him and you screwed up. So to bad

P.S. Whoa! I accutally made a topic thats popular for once!

Jacob · #34 11-17-2003, 06:15 PM

The appearing in dreams would make sense, but who's to say its not just your head creating that?

I still think people should do Ouija boards if they want to know the truth. Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...

oddguy · #35 11-17-2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by mitsur
P.S. Whoa! I accutally made a topic thats popular for once!

Say anything that could be connected to religion, and you've got a popular topic my friend!

Anyway, as with departed loved ones visiting in dreams, I believe it is true. There are many recored cases of this occuring, as well as some personal experiences that me and my family have had. I have testimony that God is true and I'm not ashamed of Him. Of course, I see how people could think we religious types are a little crazy. There are some people out there that say they talk to God and feel His power and then go out and murder someone because they say "God" told them to do it. I really hate it when this happens because it is used against those that are actually following God. But remember, thou shalt not kill is a commandment, so the wackos out there couldn't really be following God if they said He told them to kill someone.

-oddguy

Dipstikk · #36 11-17-2003, 07:08 PM

The thought of seacing to exist really frightens me. I mean, we get so used to life, external stimuli, whatever, and then what? We just fizzle out like some matchstick in the wind? I mean, I've heard the saying "life isn't fair," but LIFE REALLY ISN'T FAIR!

I used to have panic attacks where I'd run to my mom screaming "I don't want to die!"

Now for some reason, the panic attacks are re-occuring. I don't go to Mom anymore, but it gets harder to understand that death, in whatever form it may come in, is indeed inevitable.

I wonder what my opinion would be like about 40 years from now?

***Cloverfield*** · #37 11-18-2003, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I still think people should do Ouija boards if they want to know the truth. Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...

Those are just so bad!!! I'd never go near one. Although you're an evil guy Jacob, so that makes sense you would want to use one.

It's just that I used to know someone that was into all that crap. And they were sure that the Earth would tilt in May by some rough planet cause the Ouija board told him it would. And like duh! we are still here now. So they don't always tell you the truth. I never had any problems w/ this person until he started getting into that crap ... and well, it went downhill from there.

Abe Babe...

Surfacing · #38 11-18-2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...

Why, too afraid to do it yourself?

Jacob · #39 11-18-2003, 05:19 PM

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Why, too afraid to do it yourself?

I didn't know you could, i thought you had to have atleast two for it to work.

oddguy · #40 11-18-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Abe Babe
Those are just so bad!!! I'd never go near one. Although you're an evil guy Jacob, so that makes sense you would want to use one.

It's just that I used to know someone that was into all that crap. And they were sure that the Earth would tilt in May by some rough planet cause the Ouija board told him it would. And like duh! we are still here now. So they don't always tell you the truth. I never had any problems w/ this person until he started getting into that crap ... and well, it went downhill from there.

Abe Babe...

I've never touched a Ouija board, but an aquaintance of mine used one before and it freaked him out. He asked a question and it spelled out "C-U-N-H-E-L-L." Quite puzzled he was until he figured out it meant "see you in hell."

-oddguy

Surfacing · #41 11-19-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I didn't know you could, i thought you had to have atleast two for it to work.

Ah your right, but you need sober friends for it who are'nt under the influence of drugs or alcohole, i can see why you'd have difficulty finding some...

paramiteabe · #42 11-19-2003, 03:18 AM

When you die I believe its like falling into a deep sleep. and within a split second your up. You find yourself in another place and time Heven in this case. Its an exact mirror image of earth only filled with the glory of God. There is no sun nor moon but the devine light of the almighty. You are surrounded by your loved ones and your talking to them. And your talking to God and God is talking to you. And God is giveing you answers of existence and your amazed and its like a huge celebration of life. You can travel across the Universe and do things un imagine like takeing a sphere and turning it inside and out. Which in our existence is impossible. Your talents in this case I call them blessings from God become infantively greater than ever before. With me as an artist I would be able to create worlds within worlds and yet new things in art would come to me all the time because God makes it so through his infanite love for us. I would always find new forms of art. Everything I knew in my earthly existance is now pretty much irrelevant insynificant to what eternity is in an existence where everything that is good and possible. The laws of phisics is broken in Heven and things you dream of come true. All tears are wiped cleaned. For I would realise that life was merely a puff in history and I will live forever now with no end of peer happyness.

Think of it liveing forever. Never ending life, eternity. That is an awesome thing. How do you comprehend eternity? You can't Its so profound that the Human being can't sense it. That is why its difficult to believe in such things. God is merely nature itself that is why God is eternal. He never had a beginning nor will he have an end. He just is. God is life in the form of us. But God can be anything because everything is apart of God. Even your pets. I don't believe in a doggy Heven because one God provides that companionship and love you had with your pets here on earth. When your in Heven there is no need for a pet because God provides feeling of companionship you had with your pets in life. It would be like totally amazeing feeling. Thats what I believe. And all I know is that when my time comes it is Gods will. And when I die I want to die peacefully. no pain just asleep.

Facsimile · #43 11-19-2003, 05:38 AM

PA in your other post you didn't write "I believe" at the start of it. Please do, otherwise you look very narrowminded.

Jacob · #44 11-19-2003, 07:56 PM

PA, you're saying your God will make you a God. Which is something i find hard to understand, because he, apparently, flung Lucifer from his Heavenly graces for wanting such a thing...

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but you need sober friends for it who are'nt under the influence of drugs or alcohole, i can see why you'd have difficulty finding some...

Precisely.