Abe Lincoln -

Dequibenzo · #31 03-09-2002, 02:31 AM

Oh, time traveling gurus, secret pictures, who cares about boring things like that? We need to get back on track with our horribly underinformed rambling debate on character symbolism. Ugh.
I agree, it's probably Abe Lincoln. For one thing, he is known often as "Abe", while Abraham from the bible is not. He is called "Abraham", not Abe, traditionally. If Abe the Mudokon was short for something, sure, but it probably isn't, considering that other mudokons have short names too (like Alf, and Sam). So, yeah, since Abraham Lincoln is known for freeing the slaves, is called Abe, and is much more modern, and also considering that Lorne and many other members of OWI are Buddhists, I would think that Abe the Mudokon is named after him, not Abraham from the bible, who has nothing to do with slaves or loinclothes (WHat the heck were you talking about there?) and is not that great a rolemodel for a hero really. Hate to burst your bubble.

***Xavier*** · #32 03-09-2002, 09:10 AM

ok It come probably from lincoln
your right

***Wil*** · #33 03-10-2002, 10:03 AM

Breaking news:

Lorne Lanning announces titular Abe character based on Abraham Simpson!!

I couldn't resist it. Sorry.

I think people search too much for biblical connections in Oddworld. 'Exoddus' is another popular bore - it must have come from the Bible, surely! Well, actually, it's a word in the English language, and don't call me Shirley.

I'd like some connections with Celtic Legends.

***Xavier*** · #34 03-10-2002, 11:46 AM

HEHEHE

Okay I will try to stop relating evrything with the bible

Gabbit · #35 03-10-2002, 04:19 PM

I CANT ARGUE THAT ABE IS NOT LIKE ABERHAME LINCOLN BUT YEAH THERE ARE MANY THINGS IN COMMON BEWTWEEN ABE AND LICOLN HeHe.

BiddaMD · #36 04-04-2002, 09:57 AM

Abe Lincoln didn't free his own people....he freed slaves, Africans. Abe is like a Revolutionary leader of some sort, a Che Guerva type. Abe saves his own people....and others but particurally his own. Liberation man, Uprising, not upper class freeing the little guy.

Dequibenzo · #37 04-04-2002, 09:34 PM

So... his name should be Moses. But it isn't, it's Abe, and if they named him after anybody, I would think it would be Abraham Lincoln. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just a little similar to warrant being an omage of any sort.

BiddaMD · #38 04-05-2002, 08:51 PM

About Abe's name....maybe the developers wanted to give players an image of an average, nice guy. Abe doesn't have to mean Abe Lincoln, jumping to conclusions like that just confuses the reality. I think Abe is just the perfect name for this shmuck of a hero, nothing more, nothing less.

Danny · #39 04-06-2002, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Dequibenzo
I agree, it's probably Abe Lincoln. For one thing, he is known often as "Abe", while Abraham from the bible is not. He is called "Abraham", not Abe, traditionally. If Abe the Mudokon was short for something, sure, but it probably isn't, considering that other mudokons have short names too (like Alf, and Sam). So, yeah, since Abraham Lincoln is known for freeing the slaves, is called Abe, and is much more modern, and also considering that Lorne and many other members of OWI are Buddhists, I would think that Abe the Mudokon is named after him, not Abraham from the bible, who has nothing to do with slaves or loinclothes (WHat the heck were you talking about there?) and is not that great a rolemodel for a hero really. Hate to burst your bubble.

Plus, Max said so...

oddguy 999 · #40 04-06-2002, 02:10 AM

I agree that Abraham Lincon is probly the origin of Abes name.

However the Mudukons have links to many religons... Maybe by coincidence... Maybe because OWI drawwed from a wide selection of religons... And maybe its because it was focused on one religon but so many popular religons follow the same formula.

It seems to me that Budisum is a big influence... Harmany with nature, Karma, Zen energy (Spoce) , Chanting, Meditation, Rencarnation (when you die in the game), and even the clasic Mudukon fether (hair) stile.

Although the Christains and Jews also could be a influence... Both where at stages in their history denied of fredom. Also they have a beleaf in the after life (the werdos, etc.) and souls being seperate from bodys (possestion, etc.)... Plus Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days (when you die in the game).

...Also Im not sure but I think that the Abraham in the bible was supposs to be the father of the Jewish race. (I dont see a link to abe)