Cyberbullying -

Dipstikk · #31 04-19-2011, 01:00 AM

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I remember this one time some kids were making fun of a girl in the 1st grade because she couldn't swim. I tried to defend her by yelling back at them.

The teacher made me sit in the hallway, it taught me that I should never interfere with a bully.

Wha-- I... brain = over.

Now this just knocks me on my ass. Who was this guy and what the hell is his issue? What, were the little shits paying him off or something?

Havoc · #32 04-19-2011, 02:31 AM

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look at this shit, Havoc. its all such a painfully predictable pattern. after you've been logically bludgeoned into the ground X amount of times in a thread, once again, you decide to try and go with "U mad, guys?" or some other inane bullshit. that's the reason why i don't bother taking you seriously anymore. i've seen things crawl out of my gullet after a heavy drinking session that are prettier than these 'arguments' of yours you keep squeezing out.

Now now now, I am hardly predictable. Okay maybe a little. But just because some called me out on what might be a character flaw doesn't mean the discussion is suddenly invalid.

If the victim can't block a bully, where are loved ones around the victim? Why do parents not see this and act on it. Why does the school not act on it? Why doesn't anyone tell the victim to suck it up and K.O the fuck out of that bully?

You don't tell me that threats and physical violence go unnoticed in any size school. The parents or at least the school has to be aware of it, so why is nothing done about it? Why is the police not brought in? Why do I have so many questions?!

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Havoc I think you need to realise their is a vast difference between occasionally slipping an insult into an statement and continuous harassment and threats. Although I have never really been bullied extensively I have dealt with some intimidating people before (though not really over facebook) and I can tell you it is not very pleasant. It is not overly difficult to fathom someone (for bullying happens to so many people) committing suicide; constant taunting can really make you feel shit.

Committing suicide over this shit is something I will probably never get. Unless you're having the shit kicked out of you everyday and you're tortured weekly infront of the school. But like we've established before, that's probably just my insensitive nature. I'd kill someone else before I ever get to a point where I'd want to kill myself.

Ridg3 · #33 04-19-2011, 02:52 AM

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You don't tell me that threats and physical violence go unnoticed in any size school. The parents or at least the school has to be aware of it, so why is nothing done about it? Why is the police not brought in? Why do I have so many questions?!

You'd be fucking surprised at how little parents/teachers hear when it comes to bullying related incidents and you'd be even more surprised at how they find out. It almost never comes from the victim because the victim is so shit feared about getting a hiding he'd rather take the insults and the odd shove now and then. It always usually comes from someone who's actually had enough seeing what happens and goes to tell someone.

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Why doesn't anyone tell the victim to suck it up and K.O the fuck out of that bully?

If the victim even thought that he had a chance in knocking the scummy fucker out, you'd think he'd hesitate? You make it sound as though the victim wants to be bullied. You really are retarded aren't you. Only someone with such lack of empathy and knowledge of such business could say the shit you've been saying. I don't know anything about cyber-bullying but I'm sure not going to turn around and call them all weak shits for getting upset about it.

STM · #34 04-19-2011, 04:09 AM

Trust me it's not, because I go to school, they make a big thing about cyber bullying and it can be anything:

+ Written abuse
+ Threats / death threats
+ sometimes a hundred people against one victim
+ Black mail through pictures if you get what I mean
+ Can lead to physical assault and sometimes sexual assault.

enchilado · #35 04-19-2011, 04:56 AM

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+ Can lead to physical assault and sometimes sexual assault.

But that's not cyberbullying.

STM · #36 04-19-2011, 05:24 AM

No but it's a consequence, hence 'can lead to'

T-nex · #37 04-19-2011, 07:41 AM

Besides even the mere threat of physical violence can put some people in a very bad mental state. If someone gets a threat on FB from someone they know, they will obviously be scared. Even if nothing happened or ever will.

Disgruntled Intern · #38 04-19-2011, 04:00 PM

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look at this shit, Havoc. its all such a painfully predictable pattern. after you've been logically bludgeoned into the ground X amount of times in a thread, once again, you decide to try and go with "U mad, guys?" or some other inane bullshit. that's the reason why i don't bother taking you seriously anymore. i've seen things crawl out of my gullet after a heavy drinking session that are prettier than these 'arguments' of yours you keep squeezing out.

THIS.

Know what else I love? The fact that Havoc is taking such a hard nosed prick attitude about this crap, but when ever half the forums jump on his back because he faps to animals and minors, he fucking cries and whines and bitches until one of the god damned admins steps in. He also negreps like hell because he actually DOES take the internet personally and he assumes that rep makes people weep.

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And where are the parents in this story? The parents who are screaming for a law against cyberbullying, is it really that much trouble to contact the other parents and keep the bully grounded for the next 2 weeks?

Are you kidding me? I'm just going to assume that you've been this repulsive your whole life and as a result, had no friends as a child because if you had, you'd know that shit likes this is the worst idea ever for two reasons. The first:

Parent A calls parent B to bitch about B's kid, and now Parent B feels like their parenting ability is being called into question by a stranger/outsider. Most people will take pretty serious offense to this.

The second reason:

Let's say that Parent B does see the light of day, and realizes they have a shithead for a kid. Fine, great, grounded for two weeks. So now the child B, who already had it in for Child A, is in trouble because of them. Do you think the bullying is going to stop because a fucking CHILD is going to have enough mental clarity to realize that they should blame themselves instead of Child A for their grounding? Because that won't happen. All that's going to happen is Child B's pissy angst will grow, and the bullying will intensify.

I mean, jesus, it's like basic math. How fucking stupid are you?

***Alcar*** · #39 04-19-2011, 04:30 PM

Hmmm... Not sure what to say.

On the one hand, I can empathise with those affected by bullying, on the other hand, I'd like to slap them and tell them to beat the crap out of whoever is disturbing them.

Sure, sure, physical action isn't the answer - in a perfect world.

Alcar...

moxco · #40 04-19-2011, 07:01 PM

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Committing suicide over this shit is something I will probably never get. Unless you're having the shit kicked out of you everyday and you're tortured weekly infront of the school. But like we've established before, that's probably just my insensitive nature. I'd kill someone else before I ever get to a point where I'd want to kill myself.

Yes but for every person who becomes suicidal as a result of bullying there would be hundreds-of-thousands more who don't. And unless you've been in a such a situation I don't expect you to get it.

Daxter King · #41 04-19-2011, 07:17 PM

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Wha-- I... brain = over.

Now this just knocks me on my ass. Who was this guy and what the hell is his issue? What, were the little shits paying him off or something?

Was a woman if I recall correctly. She came in when I was arguing with one of them, decided I was the problem, and sent me out. Bitch.

Dipstikk · #42 04-22-2011, 01:11 AM

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Was a woman if I recall correctly. She came in when I was arguing with one of them, decided I was the problem, and sent me out. Bitch.

Sounds like she has a teaching philosophy that the principal should be informed of, and if that doesn't work, the school board. She is maintaining bullying.

Daxter King · #43 04-22-2011, 10:02 AM

She is long gone by now, that was many moons ago.

Jordan · #44 04-30-2011, 07:47 AM

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I'd kill someone else before I ever get to a point where I'd want to kill myself.

This just proves your shit-head attitude towards pretty much anything. Most people i've talked to would rather kill themselves than murder someone. I don't understand how you could live with the guilt of taking someone elses life. That aside, i've read the crap you've been spouting in this thread and to me it almost amounts to the troll going on about paedophiles and homosexuals... But the thing is you're actually being serious. Seriously stupid, you've got no clue on how difficult bullying can be. I'm sure serious cyber bullies will not stop after simply being blocked. I'm sure they'll do anything they can to make anothe feel like crap.

Havoc · #45 04-30-2011, 07:57 AM

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This just proves your shit-head attitude towards pretty much anything.

No, that proves that unlike the majority of people, I still have a survival instinct. That's something I'm actually proud of.

Wings of Fire · #46 04-30-2011, 08:14 AM

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No, that proves that unlike the majority of people, I still have a survival instinct. That's something I'm actually proud of.

Humans are social creatures, we live in societies and our lives are based around interactions with other people. We value equity and justice, and compassion and altruism are survival traits.

You'd be stone dead in a tribal society.

Havoc · #47 04-30-2011, 08:16 AM

That doesn't even make any sense. Any healthy person would kill someone else before killing themselves if given the choice. If not, nature has fucked up somewhere.

Connell · #48 04-30-2011, 08:44 AM

Wow, reading through this thread, and any point i'd wish to make has pretty much already been covered. Havoc, you are one the most insensitive, callous and ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune to listen to jabber on. Throughout my childhood I was fortunate enough to never undergo any serious bullying, but seriously, have a heart! Your point has been reduced to squalor and yet you continue to argue, which makes you look like an even bigger jerk and idiot. Something tells me something very bad happened to you in life, which has made you have these awful opinions. What a ridiculous bunch of crap you've come out with! Hopefully all these posts will show you the fact your willing to kill someone doesn't make you a bigger man than those people who unintentionally spend the majority of their childhood in misery.

Havoc · #49 04-30-2011, 09:11 AM

Have you people collectively decided to just pick a few words out of my posts and base your reply on that?

1. Read the post.
2. Read it again for good measure.
3. Attempt to understand what it says.
4. ...
5. Profit!

RoryF · #50 04-30-2011, 09:42 AM

I don't see why the person would keep the bully in contact with MSN or facebook or whatever. Although I've never really been cyberbullied much, any time that happens I just delete them of my friends list.
Telling any teachers or parents won't help.
Teachers usually say they're going to sort it out but nothing happens and I'm sure there's not much a parent can other than to inform the school which won't do anything.

I've tried the teacher part before so I know what I'm saying.

STM · #51 04-30-2011, 09:47 AM

Trust me it's not that easy, cyberbullying is never one on one just as bullying irl is never one on one, one poor kids has to face up to sometimes twenty other little fuckers. No one here an say 20 - 1 wouldn't make them feel like shit because they'd be lying.

RoryF · #52 04-30-2011, 09:48 AM

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Trust me it's not that easy, cyberbullying is never one on one just as bullying irl is never one on one, one poor kids has to face up to sometimes twenty other little fuckers. No one here an say 20 - 1 wouldn't make them feel like shit because they'd be lying.

I know a person from my old school who had that. He left though. It was really mean of them to do that. Thank god I don't go to the same school as them.

STM · #53 04-30-2011, 11:19 AM

Thankfully people won't bully me any more, I don't take shit but I used to so I was a target and I know what it's like. That being said I can talk my way out of most situations, the last guy who tried to fight me just ended up looking like a twat and the next day I showed when he asked to fight me he never even turned up, now he avoids me all the time. I'm no hero. XD

hedjeroo · #54 04-30-2011, 11:59 AM

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That doesn't even make any sense. Any healthy person would kill someone else before killing themselves if given the choice. If not, nature has fucked up somewhere.

I think you got your sentence order wrong. That first sentence is supposed to be at the end.

I don't think you have a right to say anything about a healthy person when you're condoning bullying.

Bullying is pretty counterproductive in our complex social structures, even if at a base instinct level it's survival of the fittest. I'd like to think humanity has developed a brain capacity higher than that, but having experienced bullying first-hand and seen pieces of work like you be an accessory to it I honestly doubt.

RoryF · #55 04-30-2011, 12:08 PM

As much of a problem bullying is in general, I don't think killing the bully will do any favours to person being bullied, nor the bully's family.

CrissCross · #56 04-30-2011, 12:09 PM

i used to get thrown around a bit at school, but then i joined the rugby team tackled all the people that were being dicks and they never messed with me again

the end =D

RoryF · #57 04-30-2011, 12:13 PM

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i used to get thrown around a bit at school, but then i joined the rugby team tackled all the people that were being dicks and they never messed with me again

the end =D

So you're implying that if a person joined a rugby team that he then get's powers to kick off at the bully? What if the bully had been in a pro rugby team for years and decided to smash the person up for trying him?

CrissCross · #58 04-30-2011, 12:20 PM

well thats the other great thing actually, if you went to the same school as hm then you would probably be in the same rugby team and trust me if they did anything to you the rest of the team would give that guy the bash

well thats how our team works i dont know about anyone elses

(although if they were on the other team then they probably would probably PWN u)

RoryF · #59 04-30-2011, 12:23 PM

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well thats the other great thing actually, if you went to the same school as hm then you would probably be in the same rugby team and trust me if they did anything to you the rest of the team would give that guy the bash

well thats how our team works i dont know about anyone elses

(although if they were on the other team then they probably would probably PWN u)

Just because you're on the same team as the bully doesn't mean you're automatically safe. The other guys might be friends of the bully or they might just not help. They could just stand and laugh. That's what usually happens at schools (especially if the person's team is full of chavs).

CrissCross · #60 04-30-2011, 12:36 PM

well then tell your coach if you're that scared and if you dont want to be a gnark then you'll sadly just have to deal with it

that's just my opinion anyway