Lucid Dreaming -

T-nex · #31 11-18-2010, 10:52 AM

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So you effectively have to fall asleep whilst remaining conscious? Christ.

Yeaaa.... But sometimes it just happens automatically. Specially if you have a lot of stuff on your mind, which follows Mac's suggestion. At least the last time I had one, was because I went to sleep kinda late, and couldn't really fall deep asleep as it was. Then suddenly I was sucked into my own world.

I dunno. There are websites dedicated to lucid dreaming. They probably have a lot of info. But a lot of them are also intertwined with Astral Projection stuff, cos somehow these two belong together. According to the peeps anyway.

Edit: A quick google search and found this FAQ if anyone is interested http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamin...l#dreamcontrol

STM · #32 11-18-2010, 12:12 PM

Lucid dreaming is as far as I'm concerned a massively interesting concept but I thought it was funny that other people couldn't do it.

Does anyone who can lucid dream know how to control their dreams? I know from experience that trying to just change dream without waking up results in wake up almost instantly so does the change have to be gradual?

scrabface · #33 11-18-2010, 02:22 PM

I wish I could write more about this topic, but as soon as I am going to experience a lucid dream, I am going to share it with you.
But I am honestly surprised that so many of you already had been dreaming lucid.

OANST · #34 11-18-2010, 02:24 PM

I don't lucid dream. Life is stupid enough without that shit.

scrabface · #35 11-18-2010, 02:29 PM

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I don't lucid dream. Life is stupid enough without that shit.

only if you dream about YOUR shitty life. Apart from that...

OANST · #36 11-18-2010, 02:31 PM

budump tch.

slig# 5719 · #37 11-18-2010, 02:37 PM

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Does anyone who can lucid dream know how to control their dreams? I know from experience that trying to just change dream without waking up results in wake up almost instantly so does the change have to be gradual?

To stop waking up straight away never think about trying not to wake up, in my experience I just wake up when I do that. I have also found that emotions wake me up too. When I first started Lucid Dreaming I pulled a small pill from my pocket, (in the dream of course

just assume it's there and it will be there) told myself it will make me sleep longer and swallowed it.

As for controlling things *shrugs* sometimes I can sometimes I can't but I usually find assuming something will happen is better than willing something to happen.

***Nate*** · #38 11-18-2010, 04:47 PM

Every time I have lucid dreamed it has been when I've woken up and then gone back to sleep. But then, that's generally the only time I ever remember dreams so that might not actually be too significant.

I recently had a dream about my ex. It was lucid enough that I controlled it to get us in to his bedroom. Then when I started flirting with him, he backed away. Cock-blocked by my own unconscious!

tantopat · #39 11-18-2010, 05:03 PM

I had a lucid dream once when I was little, but I've never quite gotten the hang of it since. I remember the dream being much harder to control than my parents had led me to believe, and the only thing I could really do was rewind and replay the dream as it happened (I don't remember much of it, but it was something about being on a spaceship with Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park). Since then I've had dreams where I've changed things that don't seem realistic enough to me, but I'm not sure if they count as properly lucid; even if I see a dream as unrealistic, I can never seem to recognise it as a dream until I wake up.

Bullet Magnet · #40 11-18-2010, 05:37 PM

Incidentally, how does anyone know their dream is actually lucid? It's well established that you can simply not trust your own recollection of your dreams.

***Nate*** · #41 11-18-2010, 07:28 PM

BM makes a good point.

And, for the record, I believe that there is no way to make yourself have lucid dreams. It either happens or it doesn't, depending on how close to being awake you are. Some companies have tried selling doodads that shine LEDs in your eyes (i.e. to half-wake you up) when it senses REM, but other than that there's not much you can do.

enchilado · #42 11-18-2010, 08:09 PM

But I didn't recollect the dream, I experienced it and then woke up.

Mac Sirloin · #43 11-18-2010, 10:21 PM

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I don't lucid dream. Life is stupid enough without that shit.

Exactly this. I thought it was totally rad until I actually tried, then I realized that what makes dreaming at all fun is the total unpredictability of them. It's neat experiencing something that only your subconscious (or whatever) can regurgitate on you.

MA · #44 11-19-2010, 04:52 AM

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budump tch.

that sounded like something falling off the table.

Bullet Magnet · #45 11-19-2010, 06:12 AM

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But I didn't recollect the dream, I experienced it and then woke up.

How do you know you even had a dream if you can't remember it?

enchilado · #46 11-19-2010, 06:23 AM

Incidentally, how do know I actually posted that? You can simply not trust your own recollection of posts you've read.

Wings of Fire · #47 11-19-2010, 06:23 AM

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Incidentally, how do know I actually posted that? You can simply not trust your own recollection of posts you've read.

As a five year student of psychology I can guarentee this is an excellent analogy.

yup

Mac Sirloin · #48 11-19-2010, 07:21 AM

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that sounded like something falling off the table.

Upon reading this post I almost checked under my desk, just in case.

Bullet Magnet · #49 11-19-2010, 07:30 AM

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Incidentally, how do know I actually posted that? You can simply not trust your own recollection of posts you've read.

If in doubt, check again.

STM · #50 11-19-2010, 09:21 AM

Surely then, this world only exists in the micro-second that I thinking of as I type, coincidently, the beginning of this sentence would no longer exist. Neither does this. Or this. Your stating that you cannot account on what you've read does not take into account the readers memory, or the ability of the writer to change what has been written, if all other accounts are demolished and the writer edits what he has written into a new form, the previous account no longer exists and surely, the person who remembers the previous post is no longer correct because correctness requires one true by-stander? Yes?

Asmoden · #51 11-19-2010, 10:16 AM

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Does anyone who can lucid dream know how to control their dreams? I know from experience that trying to just change dream without waking up results in wake up almost instantly so does the change have to be gradual?

Actually lucid dreams are the basics of shamanism.
The shamans usually take some particulars plants(Datura-Stramonio) to artificially induce lucid dreaming.
Exist the natural way too: this is about using the personal will to induce lucid dreams just before tking a nap (though, in the beginning, this will take at least 2 monts).
Cleared this first stage you can start traveling using dreams.
The most difficult thing about it is learning to not concentrate your attention on something in particular.

OANST · #52 11-19-2010, 10:26 AM

THAT'S ALMOST AS COOL AS PSIONICS, GUYS!

STM · #53 11-19-2010, 11:07 AM

Ugh, that post, see, the one above yours Asmoden, took a whopping 6 minutes to type, no one looked not even OANST looked, he didn't even troll. =*(

Anywho, Asmoden, do people still do this? I would love to do that so long as it didn't affect my body negatively.

Asmoden · #54 11-19-2010, 11:17 AM

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Anywho, Asmoden, do people still do this? I would love to do that so long as it didn't affect my body negatively.

At basic levels it's not dangerous; but if you become really good at it other than aquiring some interesting benefices you can come in conctact with other inorganic beings and at this point it become crazy dangerous....

Since i love oddworld fans i won't tell you how to do it thought

OANST · #55 11-19-2010, 11:19 AM

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Ugh, that post, see, the one above yours Asmoden, took a whopping 6 minutes to type, no one looked not even OANST looked, he didn't even troll. =*(

Right. You really didn't think I was going to read your attempt to wax philosophical, did you? That would be......absurd.

STM · #56 11-19-2010, 11:40 AM

You've changed.

@Asmo: Go on, tell meeeeee, in a private PM?

Asmoden · #57 11-19-2010, 11:43 AM

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@Asmo: Go on, tell meeeeee, in a private PM?

Unless you tell me you want to enter a permanent coma...

STM · #58 11-19-2010, 11:47 AM

Well I wanna no how to hallucinate, if you don't tell me I'll google it, and we all know the sickos on google would be happy to comanise me

OANST · #59 11-19-2010, 11:52 AM

You're both fucking stupid.

Asmoden · #60 11-19-2010, 11:53 AM

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Well I wanna no how to hallucinate, if you don't tell me I'll google it, and we all know the sickos on google would be happy to comanise me

Google about this is just trash.
Real shamans will never whrite something like this on google... 80% of people are complete idiots after all and they will just end up making fun of our amazing work or misuse it.