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Munch and Abe are commanded by the Big Raisin to help a particularly lazy Glukkon become one of the richest Glukkons on Oddworld. Why?
Because it was the only way to access Vykkers Labs in the first place. No other vessel going to the Labs would be so completely devoid of security as Lulu’s airship.

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It's not like Abe needed Munch's help to rescue a few eggs, and it's not like any of the Quintology arc was advanced around Munch - as far as we're aware, Munch is just going to bugger off and raise a hundred gabbiwogs (which will then get fished out of the sea and eaten by the now-richer-than-ever Vykkers. Once they've built a new ship that is)
Saying Munch doesn’t have any signicance to the future of the Quintology is like saying neither Abe nor Squeek have any such significance. Just because we don’t know about their, doesn’t mean we should judge the present characters for it. Although I will agree that, in the boiled down story Mudling explains away, Munch’s importance in his own game was incredibly lightweight.

Oh, and Munch is the only character whose significance in Squeek’s Oddysee we actually know.

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Oh, and who is this Big Raisin creature? Why are Abe and the mudokons suddenly so eager to do his bizarre bidding? Maybe he's really a glukkon in disguise and is blackmailing them with the Queen's life. Suddenly the story all makes sense!
I’m reading this as being tongue in cheeck, but the Raisin is an ancient prophet, oracle, and spiritual advisor. He has been revered by Native races for generations, he has predicted a grisly future that he wants to avoid, and his astral projection gives him a knowledge of and compassion for even the cruelest Industrial individuals that most Natives lack.
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I mean, at least it has an ending
Yeah. I can forgive it all its stupidity because it blessed me with an ending. I'm thankful.

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It's not what Lorne intended though, so let's hope we see Munch's real story one day.
Me too. It's weird how many people in this forum are claiming that the film(s) will DEFINITELY be good because we can trust Lorne to produce quality that sticks to his vision rather than compromised shit. Lessons should be learnt.

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Because it was the only way to access Vykkers Labs in the first place. No other vessel going to the Labs would be so completely devoid of security as Lulu’s airship.
When Abe was sent to rescue Munch from Vykkers Labs (first scene), why then wasn't he actually sent to enrichen Lulu so he could ride the airship up?
I'm sure there are many ways to get into Vykkers Labs which don't involve the contrived nonsense around Lulu.

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There was actually much more to the story, and there weren't going to be lulu machines randomly in every boss's office, despite the fact they they laughed outright at his fund.
But this all got trashed with the xbox change and the time restraints, they realy had to work with what they had, and wrap the story around that.
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I’m reading this as being tongue in cheeck, but the Raisin is an ancient prophet, oracle, and spiritual advisor. He has been revered by Native races for generations, he has predicted a grisly future that he wants to avoid, and his astral projection gives him a knowledge of and compassion for even the cruelest Industrial individuals that most Natives lack.
Yes, but none of that is actually given in the game. And I'm criticising Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee the Xbox game, not background story (or "real" story) which a few fans and some OWI employees know.
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When Abe was sent to rescue Munch from Vykkers Labs (first scene), why then wasn't he actually sent to enrichen Lulu so he could ride the airship up?
I'm sure there are many ways to get into Vykkers Labs which don't involve the contrived nonsense around Lulu.
The Big Well. Were you not paying attention?

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Yes, but none of that is actually given in the game. And I'm criticising Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee the Xbox game, not background story (or "real" story) which a few fans and some OWI employees know.
Same with other Oddworld characters, including Sligs. They are given no explanation, no backstory, no particular personality traits. We see they are guards/soldiers and personal assistants, and we take that in our stride. Why can you not do the same with the Raisin, seeing he is a wise, respected individual? The Big Face wasn’t given any backstory at all. Why is he the Mudokons’ spiritual leader?
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I'm sure there are many ways to get into Vykkers Labs which don't involve the contrived nonsense around Lulu.
1. To get the Gabbiar.
2. To ruin the economy.
3. So they could get out again, with a load of scrubs and eggs.
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ok, i can see why many people were disappointed with MO, but c'mon, you got to give them some credit, how many companies are there that can jump from 2D straight to 3D?

not many, i can tell you that
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You mean there were, what, midway points between the two?
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I win this argument you dirty apologists.

Except on the Big Raisin count. But no one cares about that bit.
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Munch's Oddysee is the most underrated game on Xbox...There are many worse games that MO and they achieved better score than MO. Its sad that the quintology is not complete. I think that Squeek's Oddysee was planned to be THE Oddworld game, that will answer most of the quiestions like that one with Big Face.
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Munch's Oddysee is the most underrated game on Xbox...
What about Barbie Horse Adventures?

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I think that Squeek's Oddysee was planned to be THE Oddworld game, that will answer most of the quiestions like that one with Big Face.
No. I don't really think that Big Face is important enough to get plottime in Squeek's story, what with Gorman Disenza and Lady Margaret's grandmother and the economy hitting the fan.


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What about Barbie Horse Adventures?

No. I don't really think that Big Face is important enough to get plottime in Squeek's story, what with Gorman Disenza and Lady Margaret's grandmother and the economy hitting the fan.


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Yeah, I like MO. And why alot of people hating SW for not having Abe or Munch in it? Allthough I hate it for that reason... But its still a cool game. I still kind of like MO. At least my collection is finished.
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Same to me dude..SW is great, but if it was not set in Oddworld, I would probably never buy it...;-) and not having Abe in it, yeah, that sucked really well...
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Well I've finaly managed to get an xbox along with MO and SW, and even though I havn't finished MO yet I must say that some parts of it are a bit silly, such as the bouncing noises when Munch and the Fuzzles jump. I think it's a good game, but they could have made the atmosphere darker and less cartoony. Also, I think the Gamespeak for Sligs, Paramites and Scrabs could have been more like the previous games (Why the heck do Paramites sound like pigs? And what happened to the sounds Scrabs make??).

Anyway, as for SW, I think that's a much better game than Munch. The atmoshpere's a bit darker and I think the in-game graphics are lots better. And I don't mind not seeing Abe in it (wouldn't it be funny if Abe was in it? What would he do?).
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What?! The Scrabs and Paramites don't even make the same sounds as in the other games?!
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I just started playing MO for the first time 2 days ago and although everyone can list the oh-so-many bad things about this game with ease, I still think MO was a necessary step in the Oddworld series. Something good must've surely come out of this - and I can think of one thing, and one thing only - they'll know better next time, as they're bound to deliver good games.

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Nope, they don't. Paramites sound just like pigs. And both Paramites and Scrabs behave in EXACTLY the same way, as in they're in a herd, and they group up and chase you. And that's about all they do.

One of the things out of many that I hated about MO.
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I just started playing MO for the first time 2 days ago and although everyone can list the oh-so-many bad things about this game with ease, I still think MO was a necessary step in the Oddworld series. Something good must've surely come out of this - and I can think of one thing, and one thing only - they'll know better next time, as they're bound to deliver good games.

I think it'll all turn out good, in due time.
They (OWI) doesnt make games anymore...
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Can you still possess them?
Yes, but there's no gameplay value. You can run around, make a few noises and attack the other animals. This will send the entire herd into a fratricidal mania as they all descend upon the unfortunate individual you possessed and tear it limb from limb.

You can possess the slogs too. Same deal.
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They (OWI) doesnt make games anymore...
I'd like to think they haven't given up on the gaming business entirely. One can always hope.
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I'm going to get Munch's Oddysee, just because it has something to do with Oddworld.
Very nice said it was!!! Munch's Oddysee is a game that has "something" in it...
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