Telekenetics -

Laser · #31 05-15-2007, 12:51 PM

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This won't work.

Because i just posted.

TELKEGAYTICS LOL

well there we are then,typical of hobo to troll a thread,i swear we should start feeding him goats

but i actually would like to try this so i will and if its crap then i'll stop

Arxryl · #32 05-15-2007, 03:16 PM

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Arxryl and ziggy, there's no real "right" way to make a psiball, or to do anything in psionics. Basically, it's just like having an opinion, in that almost everyone does it differently. I tend to use this way, but you should find the way that works the best for you. This doesn't mean that someone "has" your way of doing it, so you should always try different techniques, as well as even small varients in how you do it.

of course there are small varients, but when I say "do it right" I mean in a relaxing pose, or very deep meditation or the like... as in the "right" way to relax. (of course there are multiple ways to relax as well, but hanging by your toes with barbed wire tied to your waist probably isn't one of them...)

Bullet Magnet · #33 05-15-2007, 03:50 PM

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Yall remember that one fact? We use about 10% of our brain. When we try to learn this stuff, we're using more of our brain.

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R.U.B.B.I.S.H.

At any one time, a typical human will be using 10-20% of their brains. But which 10-20% depends on what they're doing; when they are having a conversation the speech centres will be busy and when they're playing a game of football, the vision and physical motion centres will be doing their stuff. Over the course of time, 100% of a healthy person's brain is used.

People like savants actually use less of their brain at a time. Though interestingly, they use completely inappropriate parts, such as spacial awareness for math.

The more I look into think, the more it is starting to smell. I'm trying to hypothesise someway the insignificant and inconsequential thoughts of an upright ape alone can alter the universe around him. The forces suggested by many people would cause fatal hemorrhaging at externally detectable levels. The random use of the word "energy", behaving in ways that energy cannot (though does in science fiction where matter such as the luminous ions of a lightning bolt are mistaken for energy), it is being described more like an invisible substance than actual energy. What is bugging me is that those involved make no attempts to explain it, as it "just being able to do it" is enough. This might just be the scientist in me, but the apathetic "it just exists" attitude, to me at least, seems to be lacking a vital human drive.

The whole thing appears to be defying every law of physics, and sounds like so much new age and religion. If it does exist, as I say, it would revolutionise science, but it is just treated as a matter-of-fact by these people, as if everyone accepts it exists and that the non-believers are comparable the the Flat-Earth Society. If only just one were willing to enter a damn laboratory then maybe something could be concluded, but the reclusivity can only let us respond in the same way we would to people claiming to have cloned humans or constructed an anti-gravity device but never actually release anything less than verbal declaration.

mitsur · #34 05-15-2007, 04:21 PM

It sure dosen't help that the creators and main contributors to this site are going by names such as 'peebrain'

***Nate*** · #35 05-15-2007, 05:28 PM

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well there we are then,typical of hobo to troll a thread,i swear we should start feeding him goats

Oh, that's awesome! *changes hobo's CT*

On-Topic: I am now more firmly ensconsed in my status as skeptic than ever. My brother made my mum get in contact with his spiritual-healer guru for some health issues and I had a short moment of worry that she'd be right and I would have to realign my worldview. The thing is, not only did she not help squat, but things ended up going worse than she predicted. My mum's going to be fine, so there's nothing to worry about but I am rather happy not to have to change my perspectives on the universe.

Nemo · #36 05-15-2007, 08:36 PM

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WORDS THAT LIES!1!1!1!

Well, I really doubt that the human race is possible to just sum this kind of thing up in a simple statement. Right now, at least.

Bullet Magnet · #37 05-15-2007, 09:57 PM

I think you're putting words into my quote box there.

Fez · #38 05-16-2007, 11:17 AM

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I'm not impressed. Make a cow float and film it.

That made my day.

Strike Witch · #39 05-16-2007, 07:22 PM

Make a sugarcube float then. Or a pencil. Do something to prove your telekinetics exist.

Nemo · #40 05-16-2007, 07:32 PM

Pfft, I only started a couple days ago. It's not something were you go from rank 7000 to 1 in a day.

ziggy · #41 05-16-2007, 07:48 PM

Ok if people could do telekenesis then we would know them. I doubt someone would be like "I can't show my powers to the public." Nobody is that modest. This stuff is fun to read about, but it is far fetched.

Nemo · #42 05-16-2007, 09:47 PM

Even the slightest thing about this going too public could cause a huge problem.
Predicting the future? People will be quick to think of gambling.
Draining power from other people? I shouldn't have to tell you.
Reading people's thoughts? Major violation of privacy.
Healing people? "It's the new age Jesus! All hail him!"
Moving stuff with your mind? Um... I have to admit, I can't think of something with that.
Out of body experiences? Can anyone say voyeur to the max?

But whatever, if you don't believe, why not get out right now?

mitsur · #43 05-16-2007, 11:09 PM

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Pfft, I only started a couple days ago. It's not something were you go from rank 7000 to 1 in a day.

Wow, it's amazing where you can find quotes related to WoW.

I need get of that thing, or I'll die.

Anyway, I gave up when I started getting light headed. Telekenetics was lame.

***Nate*** · #44 05-17-2007, 12:58 AM

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Anyway, I gave up when I started getting light headed. Telekenetics was lame.

Next time, don't try and levitate your own skull; it's a recipe for disaster.

Laser · #45 05-17-2007, 10:28 AM

tis crap i think now so i'll say bon voyage from this thread

Slig 7665 · #46 05-17-2007, 10:35 AM

Well these psyball and telekenics stuff is interesting so nemo have you had any luck making psyballs

Bullet Magnet · #47 05-17-2007, 11:26 AM

Honestly, I hope you can prove us all wrong (because that would be awesome), but to do that, you need empirical evidence, which is why I stress the laboratory conditions. Otherwise our attitudes cannot and must not change.

Nemo · #48 05-17-2007, 03:48 PM

Then got out.

This topic is for believers, or people who want to get into it.

And yes, I've been making psiballs for about a week with little improvement. Still working on throwing them.

Bullet Magnet · #49 05-17-2007, 04:33 PM

Skepticism is the default scientific position, what do you want from me? If we all go into an issue with the same opinion then there is no objective for debate, no need to assess what we know, no need to engage in further research. It would descend into mere dogma.

I mean, we don't allow topics here for devout Christians only. Havoc would have a fit.

I just want to have an intelligent discussion about this. I am sick of the unproductive quagmires topics descend into without input from the opposing viewpoint.

Arxryl · #50 05-17-2007, 04:51 PM

There is always two sides to the same coin... or so the saying goes.

mitsur · #51 05-17-2007, 05:13 PM

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Then got out.

This topic is for believers, or people who want to get into it.

And yes, I've been making psiballs for about a week with little improvement. Still working on throwing them.

Nemo, Bullet is not trying to make you look like a fool. Since he's being scientific, he's not believing or disbelieving until you can actually show us some proof Telekenetics is real.

He just wants to have a analysis over this, not have people blindly follow you into it. Since it's such an obscure subject, you're not really justified to make a topic devoted to just people who follow it. It'd be the same as ILoveHammy making a topic to just talk about God and convert a bunch of people.

In other words, try to explain it and show us examples, not just ignore the people who aren't into it and tell them to get out of the topic.

Strike Witch · #52 05-17-2007, 05:57 PM

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Pfft, I only started a couple days ago. It's not something were you go from rank 7000 to 1 in a day.

Well go practice until you can, Starscream.

***Nate*** · #53 05-17-2007, 06:05 PM

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And yes, I've been making psiballs for about a week with little improvement. Still working on throwing them.

I really couldn't work out from the website what a psiball is. Perhaps you could take a photo of them? Or are they and all their side effects invisible?

Nemo · #54 05-17-2007, 07:40 PM

Most of the times, they are invisible.
Although you can make one visible, it's both difficult and rare, atleast according to the site maker. He says he has made some visible, but as it's sort of a "It might happen" thing, he hasn't been able to grab a picture. He's heard from people who say they have made visible ones, and from people who say they've seen their friends.
Pikachures at the bottom.

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Nemo, Bullet is not trying to make you look like a fool. Since he's being scientific, he's not believing or disbelieving until you can actually show us some proof Telekenetics is real.

He just wants to have a analysis over this, not have people blindly follow you into it. Since it's such an obscure subject, you're not really justified to make a topic devoted to just people who follow it. It'd be the same as ILoveHammy making a topic to just talk about God and convert a bunch of people.

In other words, try to explain it and show us examples, not just ignore the people who aren't into it and tell them to get out of the topic.

Listen, I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm not asking people to blindly follow me. I'm wanting to talk with people who are in it, or people who are believing in it, and want to get in.

What I don't want is people who are going "It's not real! I have no proof! I'm more believable! Tra-la-la-la!"
Yes, I might of over-reacted, but I can't tell you how many people I've seen just trash the topic because psionics is such a taboo* appearantly.

*I'm not sure of the right word to use.

6-finger-fred · #55 05-17-2007, 08:24 PM

I want to make things blow up. Why can't I do that? All I can do is make imaginary balls. Sounds real fun.

Give me something fun and I'll consider reading into it.

Nemo · #56 05-17-2007, 08:26 PM

You can blow things up with your mind.

Just takes practice and effort.
No one important got hurt by a little work.

6-finger-fred · #57 05-17-2007, 08:32 PM

Ok, what's with the Psi-Ball? What is it's purpose? I did it and it seemed to work... in a way. So now what?

I know I can read but all the instructions are too vauge. If I wanted to use the extra part of my brain I wouldn't listen to a bunch webernet-ites blurting out random stuff they SAY happened. No offense but it seems real fake. These guys don't seem like real Psi-users or whatever they are called. I want to see someone blow something up, not do something useless like move a pencil.

Nemo · #58 05-17-2007, 08:38 PM

Well, it can be used for a good purpose.
My friend Jon learned from a famous psionist how to heal, for his arthritis.
Or you can use it for your own stuff.

And yeah, I think your psiball worked.
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Oh, and the reason why the instructions are so vague is because it changes a lot from person to person.

***Nate*** · #59 05-17-2007, 09:35 PM

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Most of the times, they are invisible.

So how do you know that you have formed one?

Note: A reply of "I can feel it" does not count as an answer.

Nemo · #60 05-17-2007, 09:55 PM

That's just it, You CAN feel it.
Sight isn't the only form of sense.

It depends on what exactly you make, but for me, it's sorta like magnets at the same poles.