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Jacob · #31 07-26-2006, 03:54 PM

Double-post! Yes. But i laugh in the face of the rules!

Hah!

I found what i was on about! Basically it's the law changing so that Lesbians and Single women could get IVF, which i don't agree with.

I'm all for Lesbians in loving Relationships getting themselves knocked up! Fine! Fantastic! We may be Queer but we can still have kids et al!

Yeh.

It's basically just another "Naturality" thing for me. And if i'm going to stand up and say "IVF shouldn't be available for Hetero women" i'm not going to be a hypocrite and say "Oh, but what now? You munch on something other than a penis? Excellent! Get yer legs a-open! Let's give this another go!"

So yeh, i don't agree with the single women getting it either.

Yeh.

Rex Tirano · #32 07-26-2006, 04:00 PM

Haha Jacob, as interesting as you argument is; please don't double post. Now... Continue.

- Rexy

used:) · #33 07-26-2006, 06:05 PM

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Used: Homosexuality is more of a corruption (not in a bad way) of the flesh" WTF

I prefer your pre-edit.

Ack, I knew someone would get confused by my remark. To address your remark, what I meant was that homosexuality shouldn't have anything to do with having children because, in my beliefs, the urge to parent a child, or children, resides much deeper in yourself than your sexual preference. I see homosexuality more as a mental thing, as opposed to the urge to parent which is instinct.

Mutual Friend · #34 07-26-2006, 06:19 PM

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I prefer your pre-edit.

It makes me into a fool. While nobody else says anything about Jacob's obvious, subversive idiocy (for whatever reason), and talk to him as if he is a reasoned person, me ranting away is just pathetic. I said to myself (aloud) that I'd never enter into another conversation with Jacob, ESPECIALLY a political one. It's just pointless.

Oh look, I'm talking about something that no longer exists and still doing what I delete the ****ing material for in the first place. This must make CRACKING reading.

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Ack, I knew someone would get confused by my remark. To address your remark, what I meant was that homosexuality shouldn't have anything to do with having children because, in my beliefs, the urge to parent a child, or children, resides much deeper in yourself than your sexual preference. I see homosexuality more as a mental thing, as opposed to the urge to parent which is instinct.

I got confused because it was worded terribly. Really terribly. And I'm still kinda confused... most people would recognise that homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice, that's it's a mixture of social, psychological AND genetic factors. I know that isn't what you're talking about here (you're saying the parenting instinct overrides whatever form of sexuality, yes - that is kind of an obvious point, without sounding rude

), but I'm addressing the idea of it being a "mental thing."

Tis all.

used:) · #35 07-26-2006, 06:25 PM

Bah, you're unsolvable.

I don't feel like delving into details about what I meant, so I'll just sum it up: To me, homosexuality exists on a more shallow level than the urge to parent. Therefore it shouldn't matter whether you're gay or not if you want to parent.

Take your British rantiness and join the House of Commons or something. Ack!

Mutual Friend · #36 07-26-2006, 06:26 PM

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Bah, you're unsolvable.

I don't feel like delving into details about what I meant, so I'll just sum it up: To me, homosexuality exists on a more shallow level than the urge to parent. Therefore it shouldn't matter whether you're gay or not if you want to parent.

Take your British rantiness and join the House of Commons or something. Ack!

But... but... I just said exactly that and agreed with you.

You can't win for trying, can ya?

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You're saying the parenting instinct overrides whatever form of sexuality, yes - that is kind of an obvious point...

used:) · #37 07-26-2006, 06:30 PM

I meant I didn't want to have to go into small details like the causes for homosexuality and stuff that you were going into in your post. Anyway, like the Hollandia of the Dutch East India Company, we're steering off course at a mighty rate, so let's just end this sub discussion or keep talking on pms.

Jacob · #38 07-26-2006, 06:39 PM

"that's it's a mixture of social, psychological AND genetic factors"

I don't get what you're saying there. Are you saying all Homosexuals are Homosexual because of that, or that some Homo's are genetic, some psychological etc.

The latter being the more reasonable. The former being drivel.

Nobody really knows what makes somebody Gay, but new evidence suggests it's to do with anti-bodies fighting off the testosterone (or something like that, for instance after every male child a woman has, the chances of the next one being Gay rise 33%).

Out of intrigue, which category would you fit in? Are you a Nature Gay? Gay 'cos of an absent Male role-model? Or because you were bummed by a male relative?

Mutual Friend · #39 07-26-2006, 06:46 PM

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I don't get what you're saying there. Are you saying all Homosexuals are Homosexual because of that, or that some Homo's are genetic, some psychological etc.

I'm saying it's a mixture of factors.

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Out of intrigue, which category would you fit in? Are you a Nature Gay? Gay 'cos of an absent Male role-model? Or because you were bummed by a male relative?

As the last two do not apply, I guess that makes me a Nature Gay, which sounds more interesting than it probably is.

Jacob · #40 07-27-2006, 08:35 PM

"I'm saying it's a mixture of factors."

On what grounds...yadda?

Statikk HDM · #41 07-28-2006, 03:28 AM

The mothereffing blastocysts are going to be incinerated anyhow. Private people can still fund research but federal funding would be a huge help. Hmm, Bush is too busy helping kikes kill sand niggers and asking for another 100 Billion to this time really blow those hook nosed towelheads to kingdom come in Iraq to give a shit about helping the elderly and dying. Or maybe he's just whoring to his Christard base. Either way I detest this decision and wish nothing but harm on the president. Thats not a threat, just a hope, a want, a yearning so I think I'm safe.

Mutual Friend · #42 07-28-2006, 03:36 AM

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"I'm saying it's a mixture of factors."

On what grounds...yadda?

Common sense, mainly.

It didn't sound as if you disagreed, so are you being contrary for the sake of it?

***Nate*** · #43 07-28-2006, 06:33 AM

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... I detest this decision and wish nothing but harm on the president. Thats not a threat, just a hope, a want, a yearning so I think I'm safe.

Perhaps you should hope for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's or Muscular Dystrophy, just to make it that much more ironic.

Statikk HDM · #44 07-28-2006, 12:16 PM

Howzabout Parkinson's? Ray-gun and Der Chimpenfuhrer can eat jellybeans in hell together.

Jacob · #45 07-28-2006, 01:02 PM

"It didn't sound as if you disagreed, so are you being contrary for the sake of it?"

Oh no, i do disagree, i just have friends who have their own, differing, opinions on why bummers are such, so i'm used to it. ...though i've never heard of a Gay guy say that.

But i wouldn't say it's social factors, if anything i'd say you're more likely to become Biferior through social factors. Genetic factors have been disputed many-a-time, and from what i'm aware they've been laid to rest. Psychological...i haven't really read up on that, but i shall look it in the face.

Back on topic, what're the chances of a secret Science group having shenanigans with cloning technology? A la 'The Agency' and 'The Franchise' from the Hitman games.

/geek>