Why the PS3 will bomb and why the Wii won't. -

Kamille · #31 07-16-2006, 11:18 PM

once the PS3 goes down in price it will sell, i just really love playstation games which is why i want one

used:) · #32 07-16-2006, 11:34 PM

Hmmm, that's a thought. Considering the high prices that hardly any of their gaming community will be willing to pay; they will have to lower prices soon after so many units are sold.

Kamille · #33 07-16-2006, 11:43 PM

the high price point will effect sales no question especially since they have always been like the average gamers choice for people who just want a machine that will be a good investment, sony always supports their systems with alot of games.

Bullet Magnet · #34 07-17-2006, 07:40 AM

The XBox 360 has excellent Multiplayer support (free online gaming!) and has had plenty of time to establish itself in the market, the Wii (the hell kind of name is that?) benefits from supperior innovation ie the controller, though I suspect that later on a more traditional controller will be released, and Nintendo also has to shake out of the niche that it has worn for itself that it mostly bears kiddy titles. The PS3's pricetag will be a tremendous blow to it's early sales, but it won't stop people buying it. The real PS3 community will develop when the price drops. It also benefits from being the most powerful monster of a machine to enter the market for this generation, stats-wise.

But for me, the biggest problem with these consoles is the need to splash out on an HD TV to benefit from the next-gen graphics.

Mojo · #35 07-17-2006, 07:42 AM

Xbox 360 free online multiplayer? I think not! That's the PS2 you're talking about!

Ninjaxe · #36 07-17-2006, 08:11 AM

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It's ridge racer.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!

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There arn't any good games coming out for it.

Heavenly Sword and MGS4 apear to be the only games even worth trying on the PS3, and 2 games is not worth 600 dollers, now matter how good they are. It's like Steel Batallion, but worse.

*Snicker*

Wiiiiiii!

I couldn't argee more...Not ridge racer. That is the game .... that game was released on every console that sony produced.

Price...that is extorsion. I don't get that much pocket money. Might consider getting the xbox 360. The Wiii will be expensive aswell. Imagine how much a controller going to cost. Usually they come with 1.

Bullet Magnet · #37 07-17-2006, 12:30 PM

I thought silver membership on 360 was free?

Mojo · #38 07-19-2006, 01:57 AM

Silver, yes, but you need Gold for online multiplayer. Although you can get a lot of stuff from Silver. I'm just glad that Gold can be purchased through pre-paid cards. No more creditcards! Yay!

Hmm, that reminds me, that last update of XBL, you are supposed to download stuff while playing a game now. That's not true. It actually pauses the download, until you exit the game! True, you can browse Marketplace, but still...

Abeguy · #39 07-19-2006, 06:15 AM

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though I suspect that later on a more traditional controller will be released,

http://cubemedia.gamespy.com/cube/im...9070254246.jpg
that little thing right there will plug into the wiimote, and will be used for older games, and third party games from people who don't want to use the motion sensing capabilities. please research before saying stuff like that

Rich · #40 07-19-2006, 09:02 AM

Well, in the UK, I'd say that PS2 has always been far more popular than the XBOX and Gamecube. The way I see it is, Nintendo is generally day-glo kiddie shit and resident evil, which ports to XBOX and Sony anyway and the XBOX is for yanks.

Bullet Magnet · #41 07-19-2006, 09:33 AM

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though I suspect that later on a more traditional controller will be released,

http://<br /> http://cubemedia.game...9070254246.jpg
that little thing right there will plug into the wiimote, and will be used for older games, and third party games from people who don't want to use the motion sensing capabilities. please research before saying stuff like that

What, it's true, isn't it?

Daxter King · #42 07-19-2006, 01:34 PM

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http://cubemedia.gamespy.com/cube/im...9070254246.jpg
that little thing right there will plug into the wiimote, and will be used for older games, and third party games from people who don't want to use the motion sensing capabilities. please research before saying stuff like that

I've heard thats just for classic games and a Gamecube controller will be used for no-motion sense games.I could be wrong though.Nintendo WILL dominate the next console war.

Abeguy · #43 07-19-2006, 06:30 PM

true. and why would they make the wii-mote games able to be controlled with analog? some games just wouldn't be able to do that, namely Wii sports among others

Reptile · #44 08-07-2006, 05:07 AM

In my opinion, Sony's taking everything the 360 done and is making it better. So you can't give them much praise by 'borrowing' other technology from Nintendo and Microsoft.

The Blu-Ray is different though, I'm not paying 60/70 dollars for a game.

It pisses me off to see Playstation fanboys "OMFG!!!!1, PS3 PWNS XBX360!!!"

Like someone said (in the previous page) there is no best console, so don't get ahead of yourself, when it's released...it's gonna be a big Ps2...that's it! 360 was hyped, and now it isn't....jesus, calm down!

BTW, Ps3 is worthy for FF7 remake and Devil May Cry 4, 360 for Halo 3 and Gears of War, 'nuff said.

Hobo · #45 08-16-2006, 10:45 AM

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It's ridge racer.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!

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The console is priced at 599 US dollers...

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Thats 200 more than the 360.

You can buy the 360 and the Wii for just about the same price as a brand new PS3.

WHAT THE HELL IS SONY THINKING!?

3 -

For the launch, Sony has planned 1 million...

World wide.

That boils down to about 1 per town in the US alone...

This is much worse than the 360's numbers at launch, but aparently Sony didn't learn anything from the first one out of the gate.

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There arn't any good games coming out for it.

Heavenly Sword and MGS4 apear to be the only games even worth trying on the PS3, and 2 games is not worth 600 dollers, now matter how good they are. It's like Steel Batallion, but worse.

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They've stolen (again) concepts/technology from Nintendo. After the Wii was announced Sony put a small gyroscope in their controller, so if the player violently thrashes about, the character will jump. I loathe me some PS3.

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It's not worth the technology their flaunting. No one but Sony is using Blue-Ray, and its also alot more expensive to run Blue-ray format, and to make it. This is bad news for anyone making games for the PS3 since games will average about 70 dollers US brand new.

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It's almost as big as god damn Xbox!

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Now the Wii on the other hand...

Everyone loves classic games, and Nintendo is playing on that.

Available on Nintendo's online catalouge will be every game back to the original NES to buy and play on your Wii, some with enhanced graphics or controls. Also, the Sega platforms will be availible on their too, and any game with mutliplayer will have online gaming support. Goldeneye 64 online with friends? Hells yeah.

Interactive controller.

UNH! *Thrust*

Sword fights? Cooking Games? Tenis!?

UNNNH!

We've seen most of the videos, and Red Steel looks absolutely awesome.

Unnnnh...

Besides, if you're not a hardcore gammer with the Wii, just buy a 360 too. It's only 200 US and is about the size of 3 DVD cases stacked on eachother...

I can't wait for some Wii...

*Snicker*

Wiiiiiii!

Hey i remember you! I liked you!

Abeguy · #46 08-16-2006, 08:20 PM

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/3661
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/5017

ziggy · #47 08-16-2006, 10:39 PM

i don't know how fun the Wii games will be, but the controls seem new and fun. It's dumb how the ps3 will cost so much.

Luskan · #48 08-17-2006, 05:24 AM

to be hornest no matter how good the ps3's graphics are supposed to be i'd much rather have a wii for less than £200 than a ps3 around the £500 marker.

munchman92 · #49 08-17-2006, 07:00 AM

the ps3 will be so much beter than the wii

1) the wii's controller sucks!

2)the only decent games nintendo consoles have are super mario

3)when has nintendo ever made a console that isnt outdone by sony after 1995?

4)graphics, speed everything about it will be so much better apart from the price

Spirrow · #50 08-17-2006, 07:15 AM

Munchman, don't insult other consoles just because you don't like them.

I can live with the price of the PS3, and perhaps it'll go down after a while.
But I think it's worth it, because these modern systems are starting to
work a lot like the computer your using right now. Talk about storing
images, playing DVDs, going "online" as they say in E3 demonstrations.
But that's just show-off, not stuff you actually need.

Nintendo has made a lot of great games in the past. Before Sony and
Microsoft began dominating the market with their new games, everyone
I knew was stuck with the N64 and was romotely happy about it.

Zerox · #51 08-17-2006, 08:06 AM

Munchman, stop talking out yer a*s.

Personally, I wouldn't go near the Xbox 360. The other 2 have had over an extra year of hard work and effort put into them. The Xbox just seems like a cash in to sell to everyone before the others come out. Xbox is newer on the market and the others tend to sport the better gaming series anyway.
I like the Wii because it is so innitiative and original. I wouldn't say that graphics are everything. It should also be MUCH cheaper than PS3 (what a goddamn rip off that is). I'm also dissapointed with Sony for stealing the control system. So, Nintendo attempts to keep Wii underwraps for a while, and then unveils how the controller works. Not soon afterwards, Sony announmces that their controller is not just wireless, but can sense 8 different movements. What a rip-off. Lazy arses. Isn't as effective as Wii anyway. AND with far more buttons on it, that may be just a tad too many controls for people to try and get to grips with. Wii is more open and simple, and was deliberately designed for as many people to use it as possible.
Also, I strongly disagree with everyone saying Nintendo games a 'kiddy'. I just don't think that violence makes a videogame good. May be fun sometimes, but it's not everything. It doesn't alone make a videogame good, but people are still obsessed with it. Many videogame series are moving to the Wii completely, if not just releasing unique games for it. Plus, it will work on even the oldest televisions just fine.

munchman92 · #52 08-17-2006, 08:14 AM

i guess i'm out numbered in my opinion. well fair enough you like what you like i like what i like.

Spirrow · #53 08-17-2006, 08:22 AM

The PS3's controller has no more buttons than the PS1's controller.
Maybe you, Zerox, can't cope with as many controls as I can, but it's
perfectly fine by me.

What do you mean "can sense eight different movements"?

munchman92 · #54 08-17-2006, 08:27 AM

you can move the controller left right up down etc on the new controller to help with game slike flying ones spirrow

Spirrow · #55 08-17-2006, 08:37 AM

Ah, yes, it's a rounded directional pad allowing you to move the
character in a game diagonally easier than the previous controllers.
Again, just show-off.

Abeguy · #56 08-17-2006, 08:41 PM

I already pre-ordered the wii, It's gonna rock. and the Web Browser on it will rock the house. Hopefully it's faster than the DS's browser, but it should, cuz it will probably be able to update the browser, unlike the DS's

Kamille · #57 08-17-2006, 08:50 PM

I hope they make a gundam game for Wii with a beam rifle controller =D that would give me fanboy wood that would drill holes in titanium... anyway yeah I think I'll go with Wii or xbox 360, PS3 is going to be more expensive than I thought it would be, plus Blu-ray is going to fail and it will become just like the Betamax mark my words.. oooo

Reptile · #58 08-21-2006, 05:26 AM

Shell out a few hundred dosh and you're there. I'm not all for that techno crap. Who needs all that crammed in a console anyway, if you ask me...you're just whoring out the whole system.

Hobo · #59 09-01-2006, 06:27 AM

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I hope they make a gundam game for Wii with a beam rifle controller =D that would give me fanboy wood that would drill holes in titanium...

That is the best quote these forums have ever had. Even better than anything PA ever said. Where is PA anyway?

Statikk HDM · #60 09-01-2006, 08:49 PM

Eh, color me distinctly unimpressed by the Wii thing. It looks like a lame gimmick to me. The best controllers were, in order
Playstation/PS2
Sega Genesis
XBOX
Duckhunt
Time Crisis
This one makes pine for the N64. Sure, its original, but sometimes the tried and true is the best.
Just so everybody doesn't think I'm a crank who exists only to chug haterade, I think the PS3 is going to be awesome and I like the XBOX 360.