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05-31-2006, 03:45 PM
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Faults in Pascal's Wager(NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN!)
In the Penses Pascal wrote that it is impossible to truly know God so you have no clue how he chooses to deal with people. He could just not give a **** and not reward anybody. He could only punish on earth and do nothing after you die. Hey, God is unknowable to us, who is to say that he won't only reward people who constantly wear long johns or go commando. Even sicker is that he might reward true evil doers. Or, bizarre as it may seem, a deity can be thought up as rewarding atheists and agnostics for being questors and intellectually honest. Point being, belief is not enough.
Second point, does anybody know how many deities there are? Mankind has created well over 3000. Even being very, very kind to the Wager and saying that their is a lap-over of 100 that means there are 30 deities that you have to pick between. This "argument" is centuries old and has been utterly demolished time and time again and yet it keeps coming back. 20 minutes in the library's philosophy section or surfing the web should be enough to show you that the argument, and by extention the wager, is worthless.
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How do you handle death? Over the past 2 weeks, two of my cats died. Both were old but to have both die so close to each other was hard. Maybe one was missing the other. I just think that I handle death in a strange way. When they died I cried like anyone would. But once we buried them I just went back to my normal self. Being happy and stuff. I feel guilty for doing this but I guess that is the way I get over death. I think I even did this when my friend died last year. Except I did cry for longer.

So how do you get over death?
I think what you've done is very healthy. I think people tend to hold on to the past to much and it causes them immense pain. Enjoy the ones you love while they are with you and when they die mourn them for a while and then when you are done celebrate their lives by living yours to the fullest.
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I deal with death by shooting foxes.
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Foxes? How fun can that be?
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06-03-2006, 07:57 PM
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I never said it was fun but it has to be done.
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06-05-2006, 02:46 AM
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So when you are getting over death, the fox dying doesn't matter?
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So when you are getting over death, the fox dying doesn't matter?
Appearantly not.
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06-08-2006, 03:45 PM
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What are you two on about? They're only animals and do not experience pain in the way you or I do.
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Totally. I've actually started torturing turtles to let off my anger. It's quite useful.
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Hurrah! Someone finally detected my (obvious) sarcasm. Ain't you a bunch of bright sparks?
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Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't quite pick up the sarcastic tone of your voice.

And we've had debates on this forum before about hunting.
But I probably don't even need to tell you that...
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06-09-2006, 07:32 AM
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Come on - dealing with death by shooting foxes?! Well, *I* thought it was obvious. Anyway, can't believe people even bother debating the issue, it's clearly wrong.

EDIT: Please don't turn this thread into such a debate!
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06-10-2006, 12:38 AM
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Eh, I realised you were being sarcastic. Didn't feel the need to point it out.
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...yes. And quite rightly. I was just talking to the people who did reply and took it seriously. Er... yes.
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death is natural you should just accept and live with no regrets
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November 23 2005 my life changed. Three of my friends-two of which I will never get to talk to anymore- were in a really bad car wreck. They were hopping hills on a back road near Elizabeth Indiana and hit a tree going around 90 mph around 11:00 P.M. The third kid was in the back and is lucky anuff to be alive. The two friends in the front died on contact. I have had bad dreams about what they might have been doing the time it happend. I still can't believe this happend, but I choose to go on with my life and try not to think about it to much.

Anyway, I move on and try to make life as fun as it can be no matter what.
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07-04-2006, 06:58 AM
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Anyway, I move on and try to make life as fun as it can be no matter what.
Except when driving, hopefully.
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Except when driving, hopefully.
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Eh, it wasn't meant to be a joke. I just hope that a lesson was learnt from that.

My aunt cares for terminally ill and injured people, which gives her a delightfully deadpan sense of humour. Right now she's looking after a criminal who was being chased by the police along a country lane, and tried to lose them by turning off his lights. On a country lane. Needless to say, he's now paralised from the neck down because of his reckless actions. And people feel sorry for him… *baffled*
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Eh, it wasn't meant to be a joke. I just hope that a lesson was learnt from that.
I did not take it as a joke. A big lesson was learnt from it.
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Short term I deal with death very well. I get on with life, try and do things to the best of my ability and keep going even when I feel I can't.

Long term I do more damage to myself than good. Which has caused alot of my behaviour this year.

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I think I don't feel sorrow if I feel that the dying one has had his or her chances in making his or her life satisfying.
In my family, I believe that I loved our grandma the most, but I still didn't cry at the funeral. She was old enough that she had had chances to make the life of hers as good and enjoyable as possible, so I don't find any reason to be so sad for her. But okay, I do miss her occasionally.
On the other hand, it was a great shock for me when my first guinea pig died, for he was young, loyal, and died painfully.

Or this is what I'm telling myself. I usually just block bad things out from my mind and don't deal with them. I believe that I will have to suffer from it in some part of my life. : D
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