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And once again i must apologise for my truly tactless analogies.
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Your analogies are better than those of Icarus.
OANST could you seriously either just leave the thread alone or contribute to it? Posting reasons for why you posted something that you weren't supposed to post counts as spam, as far as I'm concerned.
As for the discussion at hand, I think the big bang is prehaps a little too heavy, and lacks established knowledge as well as knowledge among the users to be a useful subject of debate. Therefore I'm moving us back onto the immigration/government/crime topic by mentioning that in some southern states, there are now more people who speak foreign languages than there are who speak english. In other words, the illegal immigrants are outnumbering the people who are supposed to be there. Now, if this doesn't constitute not running a country properly, then I don't know what does.