Do you want Kids? -

Silversnow · #31 12-30-2004, 03:11 PM

I like children. Really small children that I can adore while they're quiet and simply give back to its parent when it starts to scream. I don't think I have the patience (sp?) to be a good mother. Besides, the sound of children crying freaks me out. But yeah, a few kids would be fun! Doesn't matter if I screw them up or not, everything wrong with them will be my fault anyway.
Damn this constant bitterness! *bangs head against wall*

Volsung · #32 12-30-2004, 04:31 PM

I feel that kids are kind of like parties. You don't want them around every single night, and most of the time you want 'em at someone else's house. That way if it sucks, you can just go back to your nice quiet house and hell, why not play some Oddworld while you're at it.

But maybe one day. Who knows?

Abeguy · #33 12-31-2004, 09:57 AM

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I'll let mawk handle this one.

No, It's just that your Public profiles say that both of you are guys so...yeah

Rich · #34 12-31-2004, 01:04 PM

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No, It's just that your Public profiles say that both of you are guys so...yeah

Sorry Mawk but heres the proof, it's scientifically impossible for us to make babies.

Abeguy · #35 12-31-2004, 01:56 PM

Tee hee hee

ANN NEELY · #36 01-02-2005, 10:29 AM

Hell, no! YOU wouldn't wanna have kids after some time with MY little sister! She's loud, can't sit still, annoying, and breaks all the damn stuff I make in ceramics class! *Sniffs, and glues two teeth back on her ceramic Alien* I'm about ready to ram all her damn "Carebears" down her $#&@ing throat! I'll probably stick to rats, gerbils, and ferrets. *Hugz "Swiper", the ferrret she got last night* No, can't stand little kids. Also, I don't want to make the problem with over-population worse. I watched Soylent Green last night, and I wouldn't want that to happen...

-Alien Guardian

Languor · #37 01-02-2005, 10:33 AM

Lol Ann. Sounds like you need to relax...

I want kids eventually. Only one or two though, cause any more than that and I think things just get out of hand. I want at least one girl though, if not two... although I've heard teenage girls are a lot harder to parent than teenage guys. ...Bring it on.

I wish I could just give babies some pill or something and have them wake up 5 or 6 years old. The whole infant and toddler stages don't sound like a whole lot of fun to me. I think the older they get the cooler they'd be though.

Reptile · #38 01-02-2005, 10:42 AM

I'd have to have sex...with a ....woman...for a child...

I hate children. They're annoying, drooling and overall spasticated for my own being. I never saw myself as a father figure, if it did come to that moment if your wife or girlfriend was pregnant, better accept the fact. Must hurt like hell

AquaticAmbi · #39 01-03-2005, 09:45 AM

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Also, I don't want to make the problem with over-population worse.

You can only further overpopulation if you have more than two children. If you have two, you're merely replacing yourself and the father. If you have only one, you're replacing just one of you, which still decreases the population.

TheRaisin · #40 01-03-2005, 02:22 PM

I think poor people need to stop having so many damn kids.

I'm starting to sound like my hyper-conservative friend. He believes that the U.S. will eventually become a socialist hell where a vast part of the population loafs around getting supported by the government. His reasoning is that poor people will keep having more and more kids until they're a majority, then vote for liberal presidents year after year who give more and more aid to the destitute until it gets to the point where they're getting so much aid they no longer have to work. It could almost sound believable except for two things: 1) the poor will always stay poor, that's just how our nation works, and 2) poor people don't vote. They either don't take part in the process or get scared away by poll workers biased in favor of the Republican candidate, or their votes get destroyed or invalidated, or whatever.

But seriously, why do they always have so many kids?

AquaticAmbi · #41 01-03-2005, 02:43 PM

Maybe it's because birth control is so damn expensive. On the other hand, there's always those health clinics that base the cost on income and stuff, but the majority of poor people probably aren't aware of them. I think there's only two or three states that include birth control in the basic medical insurance-ness. I think all states should do that.

Languor · #42 01-03-2005, 02:47 PM

In the U.S. an organization called Planned Parenthood offers free birth control - both emergency and monthly - if you just ask. Granted, that shouldn't be a permanent solution as that's meant for teens who don't have access to birth control or things of that nature, but the point is that birth control is available to those who really want or need it.

TheRaisin · #43 01-03-2005, 04:10 PM

Yeah. So why do people feel the need to spawn so many freaking offspring? You'd think they were frogs or something.

You know what else? Catholics. The whole "no birth control" thing obviously isn't enforced quite as strongly anymore, there are definitely Catholics who use it, but still. Catholics. Sheesh.

Languor · #44 01-03-2005, 04:18 PM

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Yeah. So why do people feel the need to spawn so many freaking offspring? You'd think they were frogs or something.

You know what else? Catholics. The whole "no birth control" thing obviously isn't enforced quite as strongly anymore, there are definitely Catholics who use it, but still. Catholics. Sheesh.

Hahaha. Funny the way you put it, but I agree. I mean, I know not everything in life goes according to plan, but still... the families with 8 or 9 kids on Welfare makes me wonder. There are always alternatives - even if they may not be pleasureable, they are still there.

Yeah, the Catholics seem to be slowly lightening up as far as their traditions grow. Granted there are many hard-liners that will never give up on their traditions, but I think the Church as a whole is becoming more liberal. Maybe that's just me...?

AquaticAmbi · #45 01-03-2005, 04:25 PM

Speaking of Planned Parenthood, I love their website. The front page always has articles and news about issues dealing with women and gay rights, sexual education, laws dealing with such things as abortion, etc. It's a wonderful source to keep updated about things like that.

EDIT: Although there are places such as Planned Parenthood, I still think birth control should be covered by insurance because it's something almost every woman in America has to pay for some time in their life.

TheRaisin · #46 01-03-2005, 04:55 PM

Sex Ed really sucks. Almost all of my Sex Ed in school has been stuff about STDs, warnings not to have sex, and I think I had a brief unit about the process of pregnancy. Nothing interesting or even the least bit useful (actually the unit on pregnancy was mildly interesting but I don't think I'll ever apply that knowledge). They don't teach alternatives to intercourse, they don't teach anything about contraceptives, they don't teach any of the psychological aspect. The entire freaking thing is "Learn about these STDs! Don't have sex!". I haven't even learned the anatomical aspect of it. I remember a few vocabulary words but I never learned what they are. That sucks.

Languor · #47 01-03-2005, 05:11 PM

Sex Ed seems pretty stupid. I suppose it's good for the general knowledge about STDs and all that, but... I think it's a little overboard to have a whole unit/class on sex. The only "sex ed" that I got was in health class - we covered a short unit on it. Interesting stuff.

...Not.

AquaticAmbi · #48 01-03-2005, 05:34 PM

Right, right. The articles I've read on the site have been about the developments of sex ed, like people trying to make it so they'll teach about all those things you mentioned, Raisin. Fun fact that I may have mentioned before: It's illegal to teach about methods of obtaining (and possibly using) birth control. The only legal method is abstinence only.

Facsimile · #49 01-03-2005, 11:28 PM

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Fun fact that I may have mentioned before: It's illegal to teach about methods of obtaining (and possibly using) birth control. The only legal method is abstinence only.

What? I thought America was supposed to be great at education. We get taught about ever different type of birth control, what they do, how to get them (through a doctor, or a pharmacy). And Raisin, we get taught all of the stuff you said you don't. Do they want you to go into the world ignorant?
Actually, now that you mention it we watched this American video and they were like, 'The only way to insure you won't get pregnant is to NOT HAVE SEX AT ALL!" And they said about abstinence about fifty times, and it was only like a ten minute video. My friends and I discussed it, and we were amazed at how against sex these people were.

Rich · #50 01-04-2005, 02:18 AM

In ours we learned about various contraception methods, STD's and anatomony. And of course how you go about actually having sex. We watched a funny 80's video with people who spoke in Birmingham accents. It was funny.

AquaticAmbi · #51 01-04-2005, 06:59 AM

Wow, where do you live Facsimile? I bet those 10 minutes in that American video pretty much summed up American sex ed. The only times condoms were even mentioned were in phrases like "Condoms break blah% of the time" and "The pill and other types of birth control have blah blah risks". That's absolutely it. No joke. How sad. The people that came to talk to use were so negative towards sex, it was sad. The only emotional issues they spoke about were negative ones before marriage and positive ones after marriage. You could tell they had Christiany motives. At one point, while discussing what to look for in a partner/husband, they said we should pick someone with the same beliefs as we have. Yeah, needless to say, the program was useless.

Fun story: We took a survey before the program about random things like our knowledge of certain stuff, our opinions on something, if we were virgins, and if we were waiting until marriage. The questions were stupid. One practically forced us to say we think oral sex is the same thing as sex because it also said it could result in contracting an STD, so if you said no it wasn't sex, you'd also be saying no you can't get an STD from it. Anyway, we were given the survey again after the program. We were told it was 100% confidential. Then the lady walked around picking them up individually and looking at the answer to the very last question: "From this day forward I promise to abstain from sex until my wedding night (or something like that). Yes or No?" If you checked yes, you got a card that you had to sign saying the same thing. This card can be used to get free food/discounts at certain restraunts. If you said no, you get nothing. EVERYONE AROUND YOU COULD SEE IF YOU WERE HANDED A CARD OR NOT! That is SO not confidential!

(Sorry this has gotten so far off-topic. Anyone feel free to go back to the original topic.)

soulstice · #52 01-04-2005, 08:17 AM

Personally, I would only like to have one daughter, If I did have children, that is.

***Nate*** · #53 01-04-2005, 01:14 PM

I used to want to have kids until I led in a youth group. Little shits put me off ever being a father. Not that that was very likely anyway but that's beside the point. It's much easier when you can hand the kids back at the end of the day.

I'll just do my best to become the very best uncle I can be and spoil my nephews and neices rotten

***Nate*** · #54 01-04-2005, 01:14 PM

EDIT: hmmm... mysterious identical double post

Facsimile · #55 01-04-2005, 06:03 PM

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Wow, where do you live Facsimile?

New Zealand. And that thing about the cards, wow. Thankfully they don't put anything about religion into our schooling.

And to those that say they don't want kids because the ones you've dealt with are little bastards, you do realise if you were a parent you could influence them to not be like that, right?

TheRaisin · #56 01-04-2005, 06:22 PM

Ambi: OMFG!!!!! That is utter bullcrap! That's one of the most horrible things I've ever heard! I live in a piece-of-shit town with a piece-of-shit educational system, but THAT . . . that is freaking sick!

Good education? In the U.S.? Well, I guess so, yeah. You know what they say though, "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence." I feel a little cheated that I haven't gotten the kind of schooling people from other countries seem to get.

And if nothing else I wish I'd gotten you folks's Sex Ed. I feel so naive. Someday I'm going to find "that special someone" and it'll be like, "Okay now, umm, lemme take a look-see here . . . Whoa, what the hell is that thing? Waitwait, lemme do a Google search, just a sec." Friggin' bullchips.

You know what else? Why in all my . . . weeks . . . of Sex Ed have I never heard the term "mutual masturbation"? It's like. There's the gratification aspect, the mutual love and trust and whatnot all rolled into one, with no risk of pregnancy, STDs, anything of the sort. I dunno, maybe I'm not getting something here. If that's the case, it's their fault.

AquaticAmbi · #57 01-04-2005, 06:41 PM

There was a film that we watched where "mutual masturbation" was mentioned by some person not affiliated with any sex ed. program. I think she actually had HIV or something... but anyway, she mentioned it as an alternative to sex and/or oral sex, and my teacher flat out told us to ignore everything she was saying.

Raisin, you should visit Planned Parenthood's teen site, called TeenWire.com. Seriously. I'd recommend it to anyone our age. It's like sex ed the teen way. You can find basically anything you have a question about on there. They have articles, questions answered that are submitted by kids (You can submit a question if you can't find the answer there), diagrams, and they even have videos about certain things, such as putting on a condom (Don't worry, it's completely PG-13). I hope no one finds it inappropriate to recommend sites like these... They're completely educational!

It's a great and extremely useful site.

***Nate*** · #58 01-04-2005, 06:49 PM

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And to those that say they don't want kids because the ones you've dealt with are little bastards, you do realise if you were a parent you could influence them to not be like that, right?

Doesn't every parent think like that? But if I had a dollar for every parent I've seen who thought they were raising their kids the right way and yet have absolutely no control over them when it comes to tantrums and suchforth I wouldn't have to go in every day to this crummy job. *checks over shoulder to make sure no-one's looking*

Facsimile · #59 01-04-2005, 06:55 PM

But not every kid is bad. I was never a problem.

AquaticAmbi · #60 01-04-2005, 07:19 PM

I was/am never a problem either, except when my mother acted/acts like a crazy nazi. I think it's the whole thinking one can control his or her children thing that's the problem. People don't own their children. I've noticed that parents who have shown their children equal respect and guidance without absolute control usually have less trouble with their kids. And the kids in turn learn to be the same way with their children someday.