I Really Don't know how to put this so...

[oddguy]

And I never labelled all gays perverts .

Sure seemed like it, but I could be wrong. The thing is, you have to be careful of what you say when you're discussing such a touchy subject. People can take things the wrong way. Religion, Politics, Lifestyles...etc.

Anyway, here's what you said...

Right leather clothing or sitting dancing with youre dick hanging out while others watch ? I don't see women doing that . But apparently gays do now don't they ? Case closed

Right...
When talking about...whatever you are, you say "gays." As in, more than one. In the context of your post, it looks as if you're adressing the entire gay lifestyle. So, it would seem you're labeling all gays. Case Closed.

Have a nice day.

-oddguy

[AquaticAmbi]

Too many female hormones or just perverted .

Or secret (apparently secret to some people anyway) option number 3... THEY'RE JUST ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE OF THEIR OWN SEX or in Abe's son's situation, both sexes. Who would have guessed?

Heh, so CS, I'm curious, are you calling Abe's son a pervert if he doesn't have any extra female hormones?

[Jacob]

I just don't see what's perverse about being attracted to another man. It seems to me, CS, that you are concentrating on the intimate aspect of a Homosexuals relationship, which is something far more perverse. I mean, what kind of sicko imagines people having sex when they first meet/see them?

Homosexuality is the same as Heterosexuality, only the people we fall in love with are the same sex as us.

When put in the context of "Homosexuality is merely a man being in love with another man" it seems a lot less "perverted" i'm sure you'll agree. It's when your kind start thinking of what we do behind closed doors - then the trouble starts. Just...don't. Why would you even want to? Can't you just accept that our brains are wired so we fall in love with members of the same sex, instead of concentrating on our sex lives all the time?

'Right leather clothing or sitting dancing with youre dick hanging out while others watch ?'

Lol. And where in the Hell did you come up with that generalisation? Moreso the latter, since i've heard of the former loads.

CS - it might help if you actually tried to get to know a few Homosexuals. Instead of allowing your idiocy to rule your competance. Don't worry, we won't try and mount you whilst walking down the street.

[Al the Glukkon]

Cyber-slig, what the hell are you talking about?

[Nate]

Well my respect for CS just jumped out the window. Unfortunately I'm on the ground floor so it survived. I had to go to town with a good, old fashioned plank-with-a-nail. It's not going to be getting up any time soon.

And to answer your question A the G: CS is taking a few rare, Queer-as-folk stereotypes and assuming they apply only to gay people.

In my time surfing the net for 'entertainment', I've been much more disturbed by some of the straight stuff than the gay.

[Cyber-Slig]

[CS - it might help if you actually tried to get to know a few Homosexuals. Instead of allowing your idiocy to rule your competance. Don't worry, we won't try and mount you whilst walking down the street.
You don't know a thing do you ? I know some homosexuals . One of which being my stupid ****ing uncle . Seeing how they all behave does'nt set a good example for gays . That's all you need to know . And yes maybe some gays aren't pervy they just like other men I'll say sorry for that but NDW did you even have respect for me in the first place?

[Dipstikk]

You don't know a thing do you ?

Have you not been reading? Jacob just said he was gay not two even three posts ago! How can you ask if he knows about them or not?!

I told you that as well that he was gay. Just because you had a bad experience with one person doesn't make the group bad! Jesus F*cking H. Christ, CS! I mean, the info is just layed out in front of you, and you disreguard it like it doesn't show up on your browser!

The fact that your uncle is creepy is irrelivent. The point is that not all gay people have high lispy voices, wear black leather, and go out dry-humping anyone or anything! Most of them are very respectable people.

Seeing how they all behave does'nt set a good example for gays .

Your Uncle = All Gays? Wait, am I the only one here who sees how that coudn't possibly work?
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...On a side note, I don't want to mislead anyone. I'm straight, I likes me them boobies and vaginnies. It just f*cking pisses me off when people make generalizations about anything. Ignorance is the most popular part of the human condition.

[Cyber-Slig]

Back off man . I never said anything Jacob not knowing anything about gays you wierdo . He does'nt know a thing about what I know from what homosexual things I know . Now I'm going to ****ing stop this arguement before I make an enemy .

Cheers

[oddguy]

He does'nt know a thing about what I know from what homosexual things I know .

eh? Are you saying he doesn't know what level you're educated in homosexuality? That you know more than he's giving you credit for? Well, based on your remarks...all you know are stereotypes and generalizations.

-oddguy

[Cyber-Slig]

Now I'm going to ****ing stop this arguement before I make an enemy .

Cheers

take a hint from now on okay ? I'll type it in bold just so you will bother to godamn read the rest of my posts

[Al the Glukkon]

Right leather clothing or sitting dancing with youre dick hanging out while others watch ? I don't see women doing that . But apparently gays do now don't they ? Case closed

I thought guys do that for women too.

[Facsimile]

Now I'm going to ****ing stop this arguement before I make an enemy .

Cheers

take a hint from now on okay ? I'll type it in bold just so you will bother to godamn read the rest of my posts

Oh Cyber-Slig... You're not losing are you? Is that why you stopped?
Is it?
Huh?

[Cyber-Slig]

Y'know it's hard explaining things on the internet for me . And no that's not why I stopped . I argued with Codek and SS once and the results were not good . Now fu.ck off

[AquaticAmbi]

Okay, come one guys... he's like what? 11? How many of us can say we knew even half as much of what we understand now about homosexuals and people with other types of "alternative life styles" at that age?

I know I didn't, but hey, CS, at least I knew about acceptance and not judging others according to my own standards. Even at such a young age, I knew everyone is different, and that's a beautiful thing.

[Cyber-Slig]

I'm 12 next week actually . And I always argue on the internet about pointless stuff . But did I say all gays are total pratts? Ah who cares . I suppose I can't judge someone I don't know

[AquaticAmbi]

I'm 12 next week actually . And I always argue on the internet about pointless stuff . But did I say all gays are total pratts? Ah who cares . I suppose I can't judge someone I don't know

CS, you're at a very important time in your life. The next few years are crucial to learning acceptance and tolerance. I don't think you're a total idiot, but there is a lot you need to learn and will learn if you keep an open mind. There's more to be understood than you or anyone when they're your age could imagine. That's not meant to be insulting; it's just fact.

Now, I ask you to remember when you said (twice) that men who are gay are either perverts or have too many feminine hormones. So it's true that you're not calling all gays "total pratts", but you are saying ALL the ones who do not have any extra female hormones perverts, which is just as wrong as you have not met all homosexual men without extras. Please think long and hard about that. Generalizations are a plague upon this world that we create, which breeds hatred. Stop letting yourself be apart of the disease and start trying to learn more about the cure: acceptance. I personally think you're capable of doing this because of the last statement you made about not judging someone you don't know. That's an excellent start.

And everyone else, I ask you to be patient with CS. Angry words won't encourage him to try to see where we're coming from.

[Dipstikk]

I was being nice...then he got mad at me...

No, but seriously, if I knew that you were twelve, I would have gon easier on you.
I'm what people call "an Asshole." Sorry, man.
You may commence my punishmental spankings, Abe Babe! Wooo!

[Majic]

A genius may lack common sense. A benevolent person may sin. A normally shy person may be a party animal. A respectable may can love porn. An otherwise typical man may be gay.

Point in case: don't judge people on one aspect alone.

[Nate]

well said Majic et al.

NDW did you even have respect for me in the first place?

yes, actually. I thought you were a good contributor to the forums, esp. considering your age.

[Leto]

Why eliminate half the world to have sex with?


(AquaticAmbi and Dipstikk, your both so, so quoteable(sp?).)

[Alcar]

Woah. AquaticAmbi, does Luke know just HOW special you are? My advice is to have children as soon as you can. Because that is definite Mother material right there. Can we trade partners, SeaRex? Please?

I would just like to add my own two cents on the matter. I find all homosexuals disgusting. I mean, a man and a woman together!? What ludicricsy is this!? Homogenous-ism all the wayyyyyy!

Also, CS, in what way is your Uncle disgusting?

Alcar...

[paramiteabe]

In my own opinion it is just sad to think that in this day and age people believe being gay is a natural thing from birth. As my opinion goes I don't believe in being gay as something natural occuring. Its all in the mind and its a feeling some people get which isn't judged by me but it is in the eyes of God. Now thats as far as I am going to go with my Christian faith. I think that is a rather proper way to state something like that as oppose to forceing a belief on someone.

[Jacob]

PA - though Science has proved that such things are natural and come about from birth, you still keep on with your little ways. You little tyke!

On a seperate issue - has anybody here actually been to a Faggot club?

And on a totally unrelated issue - what're your opinions on Fish been given permission to walk on land?

[AquaticAmbi]

Aww... Thanks Alcar (and whoever else said nice things). What can I say? I've learned from observing my parents' mistakes and from my own.

PA- Garg! You ruined the peace that was brought to this thread, but you are entitled to saying whatever your opinion is, no matter how narrow-minded or potentially offensive. (My guess is that you have no friends that are gay because otherwise, I think your opinion would be a bit different.) If you're not gay, you can't know if it's natural or not. The only person who can know is a gay person.

You say you're not judging them or trying to impose your beliefs, but here you are posting that it's unnatural for someone to love another of their own sex IN A THREAD WHERE SOMEONE IS EXPRESSING THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY FOR THE FIRST TIME HERE. Even if you weren't meaning to seem like you were doing those things, it doesn't matter. It's still damn rude. Look, I'm a Christian too, and I think love in any form is natural and beautiful. And I think it doesn't make God happy to offend someone even if it's something we believe in. You seem like a nice enough person, so surely you would agree... At least try to take into consideration the feelings of people here that are not straight, especially when they are admitting it for the first time.

[Jacob]

I didn't find it offensive. Just ridiculous. How many Gay animals do they have to find before people accept Faggotness is nature not nurture.

Nobody answered my last question - boo!

[SeaRex]

Woah. AquaticAmbi, does Luke know just HOW special you are? My advice is to have children as soon as you can. Because that is definite Mother material right there. Can we trade partners, SeaRex? Please?

Alcar...

No. No partner trading.

I don't know how I got someone as great as my Ambi, but you aint touchin' her, got it? Garsh, I loves me Ambi.

Shut up, all of you! I know you're just dying to say stuff.

[Al the Glukkon]

Well I think we all missed the point of this topic.

[AquaticAmbi]

I didn't find it offensive. Just ridiculous.

Well, I wasn't really talking about you, although it could have possibly been offensive to you. I was really thinking of the guy who created this topic to share this part of his life with us and probably looking for some support or something in a place he thought he could find it. He probably wasn't wanting this to be turned into some silly debate. If I were him, I would be pretty pissed off right now.

[Alcar]

Ambi is correct. I completely overlooked the fact that this was created for the sole reason of allowing a forum member to 'come out' as it were. We've had these kind of arguments before, and they are absolutely fine, in another thread intended specifically for an argument. Not to mention I would love to share my opinions on the matter once again. Any further discussion meant for argumentive purposes will be directed to another thread.

Abe's Son, do what you want to do. Being Bi-Sexual is as natural as a rose.

Alcar...

[Jacob]

'Abe's Son, do what you want to do. Being Bi-Sexual is as natural as a rose.'

Lol - you're so bent! Heeee!!