Animals of Oddworld...what are they here? -

***Wil*** · #31 05-26-2006, 09:51 AM

Meetles are beasts of burdon. They can be riden on, so they play a rôle in transport like horses do, except they can fly as well. Glukkons fit gun turrets on them but, while I'm not aware of any parallel on Earth, horses are/were also used in warfare.

***Nate*** · #32 05-26-2006, 11:36 PM

Elephants were also used as giant weaponry. And there's the Zumbooruk, which is a small cannon fired from the back of a camel

Spirrow · #33 05-27-2006, 02:01 AM

Ah, the war elephants how could I forget. Yes, warriors who rode on
them were high enough to get a good aim (usually with a spear or arrow) at an enemy. Somewere also armored with body shields. And I believe some could use their tusks to attack with even more force.

magic9mushroom · #34 05-28-2006, 02:38 PM

That species' Darwinian Fitness is 0 since there can only be one male at a time. And then the male dies.

***Nate*** · #35 05-29-2006, 04:53 AM

What species? Cos I know we were talking about war elephants...

magic9mushroom · #36 05-29-2006, 03:12 PM

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What species? Cos I know we were talking about war elephants...

Sorry didn't notice the 2nd page. I meant the extremely territorial species that Spirrow described on page 1

Spirrow · #37 05-31-2006, 01:03 PM

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Sorry didn't notice the 2nd page. I meant the extremely territorial species that Spirrow described on page 1

Alright, what are you trying to say?
*What would happen if a male of a flock (refering to birds)
died simply of age, who would dominate afterwards. Well,
if that's what it is then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Perhaps immediate clues appear around the females and
new males start to charge right over to them and all
hell breaks loose with the alphas fighting every direction.

Note: That was just a suggestion. Maybe not truth.

magic9mushroom · #38 05-31-2006, 07:31 PM

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Alright, what are you trying to say?
*What would happen if a male of a flock (refering to birds)
died simply of age, who would dominate afterwards. Well,
if that's what it is then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Perhaps immediate clues appear around the females and
new males start to charge right over to them and all
hell breaks loose with the alphas fighting every direction.

Note: That was just a suggestion. Maybe not truth.

How can there be any new males? the previous alpha would have killed them

Bullet Magnet · #39 06-01-2006, 03:32 AM

It is possible that when the male dies the largest female becomes a male. It happens on Earth all over the place. Or there are "subversive" scrabs, males who are not dominant. I do have a lot of difficulty trying to reconcile differences between MO scrabs and AO/AE scrabs. Their behaviour is entirely different. It could be that the scrabanian scrabs are nesting, or wild at being confined in the temple...

***Xavier*** · #40 06-01-2006, 05:12 AM

this might help:

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Q: How come scrabs are found in herds in Munch's Oddysee and scrabs are supposed to REALLY HATE EACH OTHER (that's what saves me in Abe's Oddysee from these Slick creatures!!

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Alf: One on one, they can be confrontational. But in one big group, they tend to get along, and just go with the crowd. Y'know, like people in general.

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Q: I've got another question to ask you Alf. In your first two games Scrabs were extremely territorial but in the third they don't fight at all. What's up with that! -Jason

Alf: Well, I've never gotten close enough to a scrab to ask him, but they seem to be much less hostile in the outdoors. Captivity does something to a creature, you know? Makes every inch of space more valuable.

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Q: Hello Alf, If Scrabs fight and kill each other every time they meet,how come they aren't extinct? Maybe they have some strange mating ritual whilst fighting,maybe they reproduce alone or is there another reason........Thanks for now........Long Live Abe !!! Johnny Q.

Alf: Yeah they fight a lot but they don't kill each other off every time. It's when you get two dominant Scrabs together that's when it gets REALLY ugly!

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Q: I haven't played Munch's Oddysee - I haven't got an XBox - but I have read what I can about it. I've noticed in one review that at one point you get chased by a herd of scrabs. A herd of scrabs?! Shouldn't a herd of scrabs rapidly become a smaller herd of full scrabs and then down to one exceedingly fat scrabs? Mind you, there must be some way that they can interact peacefully in order to procreate. I'm really curious to find out more. Please enlighten me. ...("-")

Alf: Well the procreation doesn’t have to be peaceful. Of course in our fairy tale minds we want it to be but it isn’t always so. As you may know creatures often act completely different in large groups. The larger the group, the stranger things get. Hey, wait a minute, why haven’t you played Munch’s Oddysee? I don’t have time for this drivel! Poof! Be gone!

magic9mushroom · #41 06-01-2006, 08:12 PM

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this might help:

Why didn't he say the question had been asked before?

***Xavier*** · #42 06-01-2006, 10:04 PM

because of the amount of questions about scrabs I guess

Spirrow · #43 06-03-2006, 12:38 PM

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It is possible that when the male dies the largest female becomes a male. It happens on Earth all over the place. Or there are "subversive" scrabs, males who are not dominant. I do have a lot of difficulty trying to reconcile differences between MO scrabs and AO/AE scrabs. Their behaviour is entirely different. It could be that the scrabanian scrabs are nesting, or wild at being confined in the temple...

Well, you are correct in some way, Bullet Magnet. Although
the female does not exactly "become" a male, sometimes
the most dominant female takes charge if a male dies. In
other cases the female is the leader of the pack of flock
in the first place. In a line up the female leads the group-
the male acts like the warrior and fights with other males and mates
with the fellow females. In words, it's like the queen and
her drones.

You know game cocks. They're raised specifically for fighting.
However, the ones in the wild do not fight every time they
meet. And that is what I suppose that's what you mean by "subversive"
animals.

Bullet Magnet · #44 06-04-2006, 03:31 AM

Actually, quite a lot of species do physically change sex. Many fish can do it, amphibians, some reptiles, insects, many molluscs are actually both male and female at once. I'm not suggesting that this is the case with scrabs, just that it is possible.

By subversive I mean smaller males that do not fight the dominant scrab. At least until the time is right...

Some animals, specifically a type of batfish, have three male castes in the shoal. A dominant one who is the largest and most obvious, who mates with all the females and doesn't allow the males to do so. There are males who look like females, so the dominant male does not notice them, who secretly mate with the true females, but run the risk of the alpha male trying it on with them. And there is the theif, a small, quick male who darts in, spawns, then retreats before the alpha male can stop them.

magic9mushroom · #45 06-04-2006, 08:19 PM

Wrong word BM the word is submissive
Damn, you beat me at my own game. I forgot about sexchange

Jordan · #46 06-05-2006, 10:47 PM

Slig: Bouncer or Security guard/ Squid?
Glukkon: Hmmm... Maybe a boss of a big business.
Mudokon:A Human.
Paramite: Pig, yes Pig.
Scrab: Horse... Maybe
Slog: Dog -_-
Sleg: The wolf was a good idea.
Vykkers: Scientists
Interns: Teenagers

Spirrow · #47 06-06-2006, 03:23 AM

You must not have studied the oddworld creatures enough.
Those exact same suggestions have been made before by
other people. I still think scrabs have to many simularities
to crabs.

I don't know if you noticed all the thing Abe
can do in the game. He can jump to a ledge and climb
up very fast. And thank to his claws he can climb walls
pretty easy and jump long distances down. As can any
other mudokon. The best earth-like animal to compare him
to is a lizard. So lizard humanoid maybe.

Let me guess, you said paramites are pigs did you. Well that
because the sounded almost like one in games like MO.
They don't even look like one. End of story.

Vykkers are just maybe two steps ahead of us in the world of
abusement to living creatures. And glukkons are a little more
than just bosses. They're masters in the corporate world.

Visit the Oddworld website or do some research online or
on this website: http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/toa/O.../creatures.htm for some oddworld help.
Credit to Xavier and any other creator of this page.

Jordan · #48 06-06-2006, 06:16 AM

-_- Dude they are just what I see them as lol... I don't really see why Scrabs are like Crabs, I'm not trying to say everyone else is wrong by saying that, it's just I don't think that...

dripik_12 · #49 06-06-2006, 10:28 AM

Mudokons are not just humans,they are frogs+turtles+dinos+and humans
(I think)

and Elums are dino+horse

***Xavier*** · #50 06-06-2006, 10:32 AM

I told you to not dubble post... you can edit your posts
one more time and it will be an official warning

Jordan · #51 06-06-2006, 12:28 PM

Hmm... Frog, Turtle, Dinosaur? If you see them as that dude then see them as that, every one has different ideas. Lol I never knew Mudokons had a shell, doubt it lol.

Spirrow · #52 06-06-2006, 01:10 PM

Hey, Jordan_boi, what makes you think Muds are related to dinosaurs.
Is it because of the slanted legs? The don't even have teeth that are visible to see(or beaks). I believe the only reason people believe muds look like turtles is because the greenish-blue skin. I have not played MO so I don't know if they can swim. But I'm guessing they can.

Elum is the word "mule" spelled backward. After all they carry the
mudokons supplies the way meetles can. I think the horns on their
heads could be for battling off enemies and other Elum males
possibly. Or it could just be the same way giraffes have the stubs
and their heads. (Practically for the same uses.)

Xav, how many times do you have to to say
to a member of the forums to not double post before
you issue those warning. Just a question.
No offense to anyone.

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Actually, quite a lot of species do physically change sex. Many fish can do it, amphibians, some reptiles, insects, many molluscs are actually both male and female at once. I'm not suggesting that this is the case with scrabs, just that it is possible.

By subversive I mean smaller males that do not fight the dominant scrab. At least until the time is right...

Some animals, specifically a type of batfish, have three male castes in the shoal. A dominant one who is the largest and most obvious, who mates with all the females and doesn't allow the males to do so. There are males who look like females, so the dominant male does not notice them, who secretly mate with the true females, but run the risk of the alpha male trying it on with them. And there is the theif, a small, quick male who darts in, spawns, then retreats before the alpha male can stop them.

And then there is self-impregnating animals just the same as
many oddworld's creatures do. Hmm, I wonder how many animals
in oddworld can actually mate together?

I double-posted for a reason.

***Xavier*** · #53 06-06-2006, 10:06 PM

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Xav, how many times do you have to to say
to a member of the forums to not double post before
you issue those warning. Just a question.
No offense to anyone.

depends of my mood and the case of the poster.

plus you could have edited your post to put the quote in it

Jordan · #54 06-06-2006, 10:39 PM

Spirrow I didn't say Mudokons were related to Dinosaurs, I was saying to Dripik that he can believe that if he like.

***Xavier*** · #55 06-06-2006, 10:58 PM

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Spirrow I didn't say Mudokons were related to Mudokons, I was saying to Dripik that he can believe that if he like.

I think they are you know

you mean you didn't say mudokons were related to dinos I suppose

Jordan · #56 06-07-2006, 01:58 AM

Oops my mistake, I make them often, I'll edit ma post Xavier

***Wil*** · #57 06-07-2006, 04:23 AM

Mudokons could be said to be like dinosaurs. They evolved from birds into reptile-like creatures. Seems like Earth's evolutionary chain in reverse.

*edits double posts*

Spirrow · #58 06-07-2006, 05:13 AM

You know, I have thought of a small list of earth creatures
who's names can be changed to make an oddworld animal.
I don't exactly pay attention to the fan section of this forum,
but I'm guessing there have been threads asking people to
create their own oddworld animals from scratch or from an
unlisted earth animal.

Jordan · #59 06-07-2006, 05:35 AM

Hmmm..... I always thought Mudokons evolved from birds, as when Abe dies he turns into birds.

Spirrow · #60 06-07-2006, 07:37 AM

Actually I believe those would be spiritual birds. Or maybe
those are Abe's soul, as they regroup in another region to
form his physical self again.

The birds also form bird portals. Sometimes you see them fly
out of portals when Abe has freed enough mudokons, and
they circle him and absorb into his body to give him the power
of Shrykull.