Anonymous and Internet Anarchy -

STM · #31 04-13-2011, 03:04 PM

Fucking internet weirdos, never been on any Chan website, never will. Limit my knowledge of the damn place to 'it's an image board spammed with shit stains and anime,' if there's a distinction. If Anonymous derived from that site no wonder their all cum guzzlers. If you'll excuse the term.

Wings of Fire · #32 04-13-2011, 03:07 PM

Or you could just ignore them, which is what it would appear everyone with actual power is doing.

T-nex · #33 04-13-2011, 03:14 PM

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I guess its cool to hate them now or something.

Is that supposed to be a discouraging message again anon-hate?

Really.... I hated them the minute i found out what they were and how ridiculous they are.

The thing is.. Anonymous Isn't even a set amount of people. I dont think there are any core members, and if there are, they aren't really cos Anonymous is just something someone decided to identify with at some point.

It's a mentality easily gone in and out of.

It's a culture though, that has formed over time. A mob mentality that strip them away of their inhibitions. I think when a large amount of people tell you what you're doing is right, you're less inclined to think of the morals behind it.

Either way, anyone who identifies with anonymous... Well the "for the lulz" part is just a sadistic asshole. I see those type of people as the kind capable of causing great harm to others and still feel good about themselves. It's disgusting.

But it's difficult, cos it's not really "Anonymous" to blame. It's the individuals. But the individuals are so fleeting and Anonymous seems to be the scapegoat, despite it containing many different people. Some of them are just sadists looking for a thrill. Others are "moral-fags". But I've seen "moral-fags" be booed at by other Anonymous-identifiers who say they misunderstood the point of Anonymous.

And I don't see trolling and Anonymous as the same thing. Trolling is ok, when no realm harm is done. I mean, such seems to be the internet-culture anyway. I just can't stand the whole "doxing" of 13 year olds, death-threats and real life bullying that follows.

I don't see what is cool about Anonymous hate. I think think Anynymous is very very hateable.

STM · #34 04-13-2011, 03:15 PM

Don't bother hating them T-Nex, just nothing them. They're not worth the emotion honestly, in a few hours I have educated myself in who they are and what they do, they deserve nothing more than total apathy, only then can you defeat them. Especially if they are inflammatory (I refuse to use the word troll)

Daxter King · #35 04-13-2011, 03:17 PM

I was thinking of another forum too when I typed that post, you can hate them, I don't have a problem with that.

I do have a problem with anytime something bad on the internet happens people go

"must've been those neck bearded 4channers"

EDIT: What the fuck are you talking about scrabtrapman?

T-nex · #36 04-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Well when I say hate, I don't mean like.. Real hate. Perhaps Disgusted is a better word. I don't spend my time thinking about this group except when I read about it or it's mentioned.
Like I don't spend energy hating them. I know they aren't worth it.

They used to scare me a bit early on. But I don't think(hope) they'll go beyond immature cyber-bullying and death threats.
I'm just hoping no psychopath will suddenly get the idea that he'll be a famous anon if he actually harms one of the victims.

Wings of Fire · #37 04-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Fun fact: 'Anonymous' semi-frequently raids all the half decent boards on 4chan (And by half decent I mean not /b/) and it's stupid and pathetic.

Daxter King · #38 04-13-2011, 03:23 PM

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They used to scare me a bit early on. But I don't think(hope) they'll go beyond immature cyber-bullying and death threats.
I'm just hoping no psychopath will suddenly get the idea that he'll be a famous anon if he actually harms one of the victims.

I doubt it, there have been instances I have seen where someone will suggest violence, and the rest berate him. If they are going against something for an actual reason and not for the lulz I dont think there will be violence.

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Fun fact: 'Anonymous' semi-frequently raids all the half decent boards on 4chan (And by half decent I mean not /b/) and it's stupid and pathetic.

I think its pretty funny half of the time, I don't see a difference between it and people going blatantly off topic here in threads.

Wings of Fire · #39 04-13-2011, 03:29 PM

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I think its pretty funny half of the time, I don't see a difference between it and people going blatantly off topic here in threads.

It might be funny if they could come up with better than 'Japan's a pretty cool country, on a scale of one to ten I'd give it an eight point nine.'

STM · #40 04-13-2011, 03:33 PM

They are the spots on the arse of the internet. What would one expect?

***Nate*** · #41 04-13-2011, 06:15 PM

The problem with forming an opinion of Anonymous is that it's not just one group. From what I've read, all the 'political' hacking has been done by a tiny handful of people who connect via IRC. Whilst I still think they're idiots, they appear to actually be able to argue a coherent point about why they do what they do.

On the other hand, the rest of Anonymous seem to be a bunch of hipster/scene kids who think that /b/ is the coolest of the cool and want to feel like they're part of an International Battle Against Evil by getting 15 guys in dust masks handing out flyers about Scientology in the middle of the city. Pathetic.

Manco · #42 04-14-2011, 01:52 AM

At least they're trying to do something, even if they do look like twats doing it.

***Nate*** · #43 04-14-2011, 03:48 AM

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At least they're trying to do something, even if they do look like twats doing it.

And yet they're acheiving nothing whilst making the world, on average, a worse place to live in.

STM · #44 04-14-2011, 06:01 AM

Exactly, why do something if you're doing bad shit? That's like saying, Hitler might have killed eleven million people but at least he did something. Even if he looked like a moustached twat for doing it.

Dipstikk · #45 04-14-2011, 08:10 AM

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At least they're trying to do something, even if they do look like twats doing it.

Despite what people tell you, beggars CAN be choosers in some occasions. When your best hope against corruption and in support of freedom of information is led by a bunch of infantile internet deadbeats, then yes, you can and should wish for better, or at least hold them all to a higher standard.

An idea which they'd probably just laugh off.

Manco · #46 04-14-2011, 08:10 AM

I was referring to the whole crusade against Scientology part. How that compares to Hitler is beyond me.

e: To clarify, the whole "hurr hurr 4chan lulz" rubs me the wrong way too, I'm not defending that. I just think it's still worth recognising that they're out there trying to make a difference.

T-nex · #47 04-14-2011, 09:22 AM

Some of them are genuinely into Anonymous for the political thing and wanting to change the world.

The problem is then that a lot of them will turn on those people and say that they don't get the concept of anonymous and that it's just an Internet hate machine. Those are the people stalling Anonymous from being something that could be respected/hated at the same time.
Right now they just seem like a bunch of angsty, confused teens who want purpose in their lives but no responsibility.

If they truly did something great, my opinion of them would maybe change. But right now they don't even know what they are. Some of them are bullies, some of them are activists... Some of them are just meme-spewers.

Mac Sirloin · #48 04-14-2011, 09:39 AM

I was a regular poster on 4chan until roughly last fall. I just gave up when I saw how stupid they all were, this collective of inept losers, each worse than the last. They are verminous little fuckers who accomplish nothing. Those that communicate amongst each other for benevolent purposes are an incredibly minute minority in a goddamn Galaxy of stupid, awful people. The poser losers who join because they heard about /b/ and want to be kewl are about as worrying as acne: A temporary problem, at best. The worst are people who will probably keep posting until they die. Just a bunch of genuinely lifeless people who are completely detrimental to society.

***Nate*** · #49 04-14-2011, 07:16 PM

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Some of them are genuinely into Anonymous for the political thing and wanting to change the world.

Perhaps, but many of them can't actually express why they want to change the world or what's so wrong about the things they're protesting against. Try and get the average Anonymous to express their actual views on Scientology or Wikileaks and all you're gonna get is what they've heard from someone else and a couple of stupid jokes.

T-nex · #50 04-15-2011, 08:10 AM

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Perhaps, but many of them can't actually express why they want to change the world or what's so wrong about the things they're protesting against. Try and get the average Anonymous to express their actual views on Scientology or Wikileaks and all you're gonna get is what they've heard from someone else and a couple of stupid jokes.

Well that's the point. Despite the few people who do it out of true honest stand-points. The rest just do it because of the mob-mentality, and even go as far as to alienate those who have true feelings about it by saying: Shut up, moral-fag. We do it for the lulz...

I've seen it happen a lot. Amongst Anonymous and other things related, you can't really show any true emotions without being made an idiot who takes the internet seriously. If you share feelings, you're automatically a fag. You only really fit in if you're full of blind hatred and sadism.

That's my experience of this whole thing anyway. That's how the case has been presented to me so far, so that is the opinion that I hold.

MA · #51 04-15-2011, 08:37 AM

T-nex is an anon.

T-nex · #52 04-15-2011, 08:50 AM

That doesn't even make any sense X_x

MA · #53 04-15-2011, 08:52 AM

T-nex is their leader.

Dixanadu · #54 04-15-2011, 08:59 AM

There are no leaders.

Only dictators.

But not dicktater.

Dickpotato, hah. I giggled.

MA · #55 04-15-2011, 09:02 AM

Dixanadu is their lady of the night.

Dixanadu · #56 04-15-2011, 09:04 AM

Lady of Tuesday Night, just.

I have bingo those other nights.

Dipstikk · #57 04-15-2011, 09:59 AM

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I've seen it happen a lot. Amongst Anonymous and other things related, you can't really show any true emotions without being made an idiot who takes the internet seriously. If you share feelings, you're automatically a fag. You only really fit in if you're full of blind hatred and sadism.

American society does this to a certain extent, but the anonymity of the internet cranks that all the way up to 11. I agree, it's not healthy. Other countries are ashamed at how apathetic and uncaring we all are, and all these people can say in defense is that "we're all being too PC and shit."

Pathetic. A little compassion for the people they spend time trolling (dominating the less socially powerful for shallow, egotistical gratification) would do everyone a world of good, but OH, THAT'S NOT COOL.

Disgruntled Intern · #58 04-15-2011, 10:59 AM

On the anonymous side of things, I've found that there are a number of .onion sites you can order drugs from using bitcoins when using Tor. Fairly tempted.

Sekto Springs · #59 04-15-2011, 11:22 AM

T-nex is the head Langolier.

*chompchompchompchompchomp*

Also, I don't know if this was mentioned, but Encyclopedia Dramatica - their lulz hub - has been taken down. Perhaps indefinitely, though I doubt that.
I saw this coming. Their most offensive pages were being removed one by one thanks to a few lawsuits.

STM · #60 04-15-2011, 11:30 AM

Really? I only went on that a few days ago. Tis funny.

EDIT: That's uncyclopedia, my bad.