Pre-order New 'n' Tasty -

Varrok · #31 07-09-2014, 02:50 AM

If there's one thing I know, it's that preorder content is never good. Never. It always feels like a cashgrab with no much effort included.

***Nate*** · #32 07-09-2014, 02:59 AM

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Nate, read again, the Alf part is basically a new level. I think that's some content you don't want to miss.

It just feels... wrong.

Havoc · #33 07-09-2014, 03:08 AM

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Bighead mode is an absolute must.

Just to be sure, can we have a confirmation from OWI/JAW that if we pre-order this now and don't have a PS4 we will still be able to enjoy the additional content (Alf + outfits) on PS3 and PS Vita when the game becomes available on those platforms?

Or are Alf and the outfits PS4 only?

I'm probably bringing up an extremely controversial topic here, but are we getting the same pre-order content when we pre-order it for Steam (if and when that becomes an option)?

Or would this anger the all powerful Playstation gods?

***Xavier*** · #34 07-09-2014, 03:57 AM

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It just feels... wrong.

I know what you mean, but I don't think it's a big deal.

Thing is, I guess pre-orders exist so OWI/JAW can already have an idea of how many copies are already "secured" at this stage. The pre-order deals are made to offer additional value to the customer so that he wants to order it now and not a few days after release. The only thing I'd like however is to allow the customer to purchase the additional content on the side via DLC if he missed the pre-order, even if it means having to wait a few weeks. There are some games I did not buy because I missed the pre-order bonus and felt I would never be able to enjoy the "full" experience.

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I'm probably bringing up an extremely controversial topic here, but are we getting the same pre-order content when we pre-order it for Steam (if and when that becomes an option)?

Or would this anger the all powerful Playstation gods?

OWI/JAW claim to be platform agnostic, so I think it's a safe bet to say this kind of pre-order deal, or at least the content, is going to be available on all platforms.

OWI_Alex · #35 07-09-2014, 04:17 AM

OK, some clarification on a few things just now:

1. The additional, entirely optional Alf mission will be available post-release, free of charge to everyone that pre-orders, and at a small charge to everyone else that wants it down the line. Further details on what the Alf mission is to follow.

2. The same pre-order offers are likely to be offered to all platforms, yes, even if not as part of a pre-order. We'll be offering both the Alf mission and the costume regardless of platform.

3. The DLC will carry across all PlayStation platforms.

4. It's currently one additional costume, not plural. Details to follow.

5. We're working as hard as possible to try to replicate a similar offer outside of the US.

6. We don't currently know when the pre-load will occur.

7. The pre-order price also covers for Cross Buy when the PS3 and VITA versions are released.

***Xavier*** · #36 07-09-2014, 04:22 AM

I am a 100% happy with this answer, thanks a lot for clarifying this so quickly

Connell · #37 07-09-2014, 04:40 AM

If I pre-order this without a PS4, can I download it directly to my PS3 when it eventually comes out for PS3?, or is this exclusively a PS4 pre-order?

Holy Sock · #38 07-09-2014, 04:41 AM

Jaw_Alex said the DLC will carry over through Cross Buy.

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If there's one thing I know, it's that preorder content is never good. Never. It always feels like a cashgrab with no much effort included.

A whole Alf mission surely wouldn't be an almost effortless cashgrab?

***Xavier*** · #39 07-09-2014, 04:47 AM

Especially since it's stuff OWI/JAW will work on it post-release and will be also available outside of the pre-order deal.

Can't wait to find out more about Alf's side of the story but I guess that will be addressed in a NnT Ingredients article later

Scrabaniac · #40 07-09-2014, 05:20 AM

Hopefully Alf won't have the ability to possess like Abe, so it will be kinda difficult

I think this extra content is a fantastic idea, especially as Alf has become a really well known character that has never actually been playable before. It does however feel strange to have him try and escape rupturefarms without Abe's help.. He must have escaped before Abe's story, as he would have been the 100th Mudokon.

***Xavier*** · #41 07-09-2014, 05:49 AM

Those are valid points. Plus he shouldn't save Mudokons, otherwise it would be silly to have Abe being the big hero but not Alf. I guess for Alf to make it out alive on it's own is already quite an achievement.

Strnadik · #42 07-09-2014, 06:11 AM

I wasn't happy with Outfit pre-order bonus, but actual gameplay addition, Alf mission... That would really make me pre-order it if I had PS4. I really hope it's going to be pre-order bonus on Steam too.

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Sackboy skin for Abe. For the irony.

Ahahah. That made my day. Thank you.

Ledeux · #43 07-09-2014, 07:19 AM

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. He must have escaped before Abe's story, as he would have been the 100th Mudokon.

Technically wouldn't have Abe been the 100th mudokon?

Crashpunk · #44 07-09-2014, 07:37 AM

In all these years, I never thought of it like that.

Scrabaniac · #45 07-09-2014, 07:51 AM

If abe was the 100th, technically he would have a place on the stats boards.. :P

OANST · #46 07-09-2014, 08:01 AM

I'm angry right now. Not because of anything to do with videogames. That would be silly. I stubbed my toe.

Holy Sock · #47 07-09-2014, 08:30 AM

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If abe was the 100th, technically he would have a place on the stats boards.. :P

If ya wanna get superfluously technical about it the Glukkons would strip Abe off the employee list because he's no longer an employee but a wanted eavesdropper.

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I'm angry right now. Not because of anything to do with videogames. That would be silly. I stubbed my toe.

They say swearing helps.

OANST · #48 07-09-2014, 11:03 AM

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If there's one thing I know, it's that preorder content is never good. Never. It always feels like a cashgrab with no much effort included.

While that's probably true of in game content, sometimes physical pre order bonuses can be pretty awesome.

Varrok · #49 07-09-2014, 12:37 PM

OANST can't see how can be done

OANST · #50 07-09-2014, 12:46 PM

Speak English.

Varrok · #51 07-09-2014, 01:06 PM

Be nice to people.

JennyGenesis · #52 07-09-2014, 01:33 PM

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5. We're working as hard as possible to try to replicate a similar offer outside of the US.

The fuck? Hell no, that ain't good enough, similar offer? No, I want to play the Alf mission!

Holy Sock · #53 07-09-2014, 02:52 PM

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The fuck? Hell no, that ain't good enough, similar offer? No, I want to play the Alf mission!

You will get to play the Alf mission. Just no guarantees that we'll get it with the exact same pre-order offer though.

V_O_T · #54 07-09-2014, 04:14 PM

Better buy all consoles and subscriptions while on my way to America just to be safe lol.

But seriously, I highly doubt they won't carry the same offer to the other consoles. If they made some extra content for oddworld, they'd want to make sure all fans can get their greasy mits on them.

Plus, I think this is an experiment for JAW/OI to see how dlc and pre order bonuses work. Just like Xavier said, to see how many people will secure a copy. Market research Etc.

I don't care what happens, I just want oddworld in my future lol.

On a side note, I wonder if we'll see anything to do with Sam.

She's not held captive in rapture farms right? Maybe alf finds the last meech.

Holy crap, does that mean Crig the Slig could be a possibility?? Like he could wave him through an exit or something? I'm going into crazy fanfic now. Sorry, im on pain meds since I got my bracers out lol.

Havoc · #55 07-09-2014, 04:39 PM

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You will get to play the Alf mission. Just no guarantees that we'll get it with the exact same pre-order offer though.

In other words; on other platforms it might become paid DLC instead of free pre-order content.

A lot of 'might', 'could be' and 'maybe' being thrown around here. You'd think this stuff would be set in stone 12 days before release...

Holy Sock · #56 07-09-2014, 04:54 PM

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In other words; on other platforms it might become paid DLC instead of free pre-order content.

A lot of 'might', 'could be' and 'maybe' being thrown around here. You'd think this stuff would be set in stone 12 days before release...

Well, yeah. i mean jaw-alex confirmed it... and said we'd get more details later this week. (even though i was referring to the PS4 pre-orders in the UK & EU, not other platforms)

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1. The additional, entirely optional Alf mission will be available post-release, free of charge to everyone that pre-orders, and at a small charge to everyone else that wants it down the line. Further details on what the Alf mission is to follow.

2. The same pre-order offers are likely to be offered to all platforms, yes, even if not as part of a pre-order. We'll be offering both the Alf mission and the costume regardless of platform.

And since the website reverted to its original state, and no longer advertises the ability to pre-order, and Oddworld hasn't announced any of this on Twitter i'm getting the impression that this pre-order stuff was accidentally announced a few days too early.

OWI_Alex · #57 07-09-2014, 10:15 PM

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In other words; on other platforms it might become paid DLC instead of free pre-order content.

A lot of 'might', 'could be' and 'maybe' being thrown around here. You'd think this stuff would be set in stone 12 days before release...

Not from me.

Like I said, we're working as hard as we can to ensure everyone gets the chance to grab the pre-order content but with stuff like this, things can change at (literally) the last minute.

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And since the website reverted to its original state, and no longer advertises the ability to pre-order, and Oddworld hasn't announced any of this on Twitter i'm getting the impression that this pre-order stuff was accidentally announced a few days too early.

We just want details nailed down and solidified first.

V_O_T · #58 07-09-2014, 11:17 PM

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Fair call.

I can understand where Havoc and some others are coming from, but we just gotta be appreciative that our concerns have been noted throughout the development for like 2 years or so. I dont think they are going to start ignoring us now.

Anyways, I think we're in good hands guys

and if anyone is legitimately butt hurt, i'll happily buy codes for others so we can all check it out together. I cant wait to start seeing new threads being erected about the awesome feels, experiences and hidden things in the game.

inb4 everyone starts getting butthurt for free codes lol.

JennyGenesis · #59 07-10-2014, 12:33 AM

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You will get to play the Alf mission. Just no guarantees that we'll get it with the exact same pre-order offer though.

Well that is bullshit. Im willing to pre order to the game to get the extras for free but there is no fucking way I am going to pay for them after paying for the game just because I live outside the USA. Im surprised that region ever matters here, i would have thought that given Im buying it for the PS4 that the offer would be available worldwide.

OWI_Alex · #60 07-10-2014, 01:08 AM

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Well that is bullshit. Im willing to pre order to the game to get the extras for free but there is no fucking way I am going to pay for them after paying for the game just because I live outside the USA. Im surprised that region ever matters here, i would have thought that given Im buying it for the PS4 that the offer would be available worldwide.

You're jumping to conclusions.

Like I said, we're working flat out to try to figure out something else.