Gaddafi's dead -

STM · #31 10-21-2011, 07:23 AM

Who gives a flying fuck? I don't know if you are playing devil's advocate or if you guys are serious but he himself massacred thousands, it's their country now, what they do is their own affair, they have the backing of some of the most powerful countries in the world. Fuck Khadafi.

Wings of Fire · #32 10-21-2011, 08:23 AM

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Who gives a flying fuck? I don't know if you are playing devil's advocate or if you guys are serious but he himself massacred thousands, it's their country now, what they do is their own affair, they have the backing of some of the most powerful countries in the world. Fuck Khadafi.

Nope. A war crime is a war crime bro.

***Wil*** · #33 10-21-2011, 08:46 AM

What are you talking about? Humans are civilized. That means mob mentality is above the law.

STM · #34 10-21-2011, 08:48 AM

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Nope. A war crime is a war crime bro.

Eh, you're not wrong, but are you seriously saying it matters he's dead?

Wings of Fire · #35 10-21-2011, 08:51 AM

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Eh, you're not wrong, but are you seriously saying it matters he's dead?

At the very least, this means he can't go out like a martyr.

STM · #36 10-21-2011, 08:54 AM

Did you hear his last words? 'This is wrong, this is wrong in Islamic law'. Also, when they opened the storm drain he apparently said 'Please leave me what have I done to you?' Does this make it slightly more distressing for anyone else. Suddenly humanises him a bit more. Even if the plea is trivial and stupid.

Ridg3 · #37 10-21-2011, 09:45 AM

I don't give a shit if they killed him illegally or not. I'm relieved somewhat of the turn of events, and it has nothing to do with the rebels getting their country back. I'm grateful that at least one of the major suppliers of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) might finally get cut off.

Libya supplied the IRA with a shit load of weaponry and semtex and thanks to them, hundreds of people have been murdered, killed or injured. Fuck him. I'm glad the boot of justice finally kicked him in the arse.

Mac Sirloin · #38 10-21-2011, 09:47 AM

How is it distressing? He was a power-humping gorilla, throwing his army here and there and making life miserable in a way that you and I, in our comfy Western abodes, will probably never know for countless innocent people. I can absolutely agree that if, at the inevitable end of my inevitable regime, the walls closing in, the rebels at my hidey hole and a gun at my throat, I thought the only way I could get mercy would be to try to appeal to the same law I've been disobeying hither a thither for 40+ years of iron-fisting rule.

Also, you have to remember that these were rebels. This wasn't SEAL Team 6 attacking the block from their invincible deathchopper, these are passionate, freedom-seeking people. I make no assumptions on where Libya is going from here, but I can definitely salute the rebel-administered death of Gaddafi as a step in the right direction.

Manco · #39 10-21-2011, 11:56 AM

Well from the sound of it, he may indeed have been killed in cold blood: http://gu.com/p/32zcj

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Wounds on Gaddafi's body appeared to confirm that he was indeed killed in cold blood in the chaotic minutes following his capture on Thursday. He was found in the town of Sirte, hiding in a drainage pipe. There was a close-range bullet wound on the left side of his head. Blood stains showed another bullet wound to his thorax. His body, subsequently driven to Misrata and publicly paraded, was barefoot and stripped to the waist.

I have no sympathy for him, but from a moral perspective his death wasn’t justified. Doesn’t matter how evil or tyrannical he was, he was still a human; and two wrongs don’t make a right.

That said, overall I still feel the Libyan people are doing a good thing. Hopefully they can build a decent democratic country now.

MeechMunchie · #40 10-21-2011, 12:41 PM

I saw rebel mobile phone footage of his murder on BBC news.

Unpleasant as it was, I was entirely preoccupied musing on how useful modern technology is.

Seriously, 40 years ago we wouldn't have had a clue what was going on right now.

Bullet Magnet · #41 10-21-2011, 01:48 PM

We still don't have a clue what went on 40 years ago. Or even 23 years ago. If Gaddafi had gone to trial we in Britain might learn what if anything Gaddafi knew about the Lockerbie bombings and the murder of PC Fletcher, and any number of other international atrocities he was or may have been involved with. We'll never know now.

He should have stood an actual trial and been held accountable for each crime individually. The first action of the "new" Libya would have proved that they would do things differently.

As it went, it was business as usual. I hope things change, but it is a bad start.

STM · #42 10-21-2011, 02:20 PM

A man who was ruled the country with an Iron Fist for all your living life BM. If you have a chance to kill this man, don't lie to me and say that in their position you wouldn't take it.

Wings of Fire · #43 10-21-2011, 02:49 PM

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A man who was ruled the country with an Iron Fist for all your living life BM. If you have a chance to kill this man, don't lie to me and say that in their position you wouldn't take it.

Ironically, this is coming from the christian talking to the atheist.

STM · #44 10-21-2011, 03:29 PM

Why is that ironic?

It's just human nature.

Phylum · #45 10-21-2011, 03:38 PM

This may not be The End for them. There are still loyalists around.

OddjobAbe · #46 10-21-2011, 03:40 PM

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Why is that ironic?

It's just human nature.

So is fucking, but the Bible doesn't permit you to do it unless you have a legal document with your name and the person you want to fuck's name on it.

I think that the way the rebels went about dealing with this was hypocritical and hasty. I am not feeling optimistic for Libya's future.

Bullet Magnet · #47 10-21-2011, 03:47 PM

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A man who was ruled the country with an Iron Fist for all your living life BM. If you have a chance to kill this man, don't lie to me and say that in their position you wouldn't take it.

The chance that I would actually take is that the prove that I am infinitely better than him in every way, and do so by not even moving one iota closer to his hadeopelagic level. So I'd arrest him. I might not be gentle, but that's what I'd do if I could.

STM · #48 10-21-2011, 04:53 PM

Really? In a mob situation? When you are hyped up on God knows what and you've got a gun in your hand and adrenaline in your veins, the tyrant that subjected you to a brutally fascist regime openly supplying arms to terrorists and supporting hatred around the globe? You would not only hesitate to kill this monster but you would take him with you to jail? I don't believe you.

Manco · #49 10-21-2011, 05:04 PM

Not everyone is ruled by peer pressure, STM.

moxco · #50 10-21-2011, 05:25 PM

The thing is even if they took him prisoner they would have definitely executed him anyway.

Dixanadu · #51 10-21-2011, 06:23 PM

Yeah, but at least let him suffer the humiliation of being on trial.

He's hid some precious moneys somewhere. TIEM 2 FIEND DAT POO

Phylum · #52 10-21-2011, 07:38 PM

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Not everyone is ruled by peer pressure, STM.

Yeah STM. Fucks sake.

moxco · #53 10-21-2011, 09:10 PM

STM's opinion is so wrong.

Dixanadu · #54 10-21-2011, 09:20 PM

Everything about STM is wrong.

Mac Sirloin · #55 10-21-2011, 10:17 PM

Every time everyone gets into a little group and shits on STM it's wrong.

Like, it actually is. It seems to happen more than what seems fair.

StrangerEastwood · #56 10-21-2011, 10:26 PM

This whole situation is wrong. A man has died. Violently. And people are celebrating like theyve done good. Hatred breeds hatred. The cycle will start again, and eventually we will come to this conclusion. Again.

Jordan · #57 10-22-2011, 12:45 AM

I don't think I'd have the guts to kill someone, even someone who was as dickish as gadafi. I would probably do the same as BM.

Mr.Spandexpants · #58 10-22-2011, 12:54 AM

STM has a point though, imagine if you had been under the rule of a cruel tyrant who couldnt care at all for his people? I think that most people would do it. But alas, I still think that he should have lived. Leave him to rot in a prision cell filled with regret, rather than give him a quick death.

Wings of Fire · #59 10-22-2011, 01:04 AM

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STM has a point though, imagine if you had been under the rule of a cruel tyrant who couldnt care at all for his people? I think that most people would do it.

Once you justify one murder when do you stop?

moxco · #60 10-22-2011, 01:10 AM

He actually tried to flee into Niger but France and the US bombed his motorcade; forcing them to retreat back to Sirte.