Stan "Tookie" Williams -

Cullen Heath · #31 12-15-2005, 05:27 PM

Well its how he said "Its because hes black" That really pissed me off!
Forget it just drop the subject, I dont want to takl about this!

Leto · #32 12-15-2005, 08:06 PM

'Scuse me, boss. Shine your shoes then?

Coolmanbizkit · #33 12-16-2005, 08:27 AM

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I know he himself only killed 4 people, but he started the crips and members of that gang kill people everyday, so baaily he has killed thousands!

But his books may have saved thousands of lives too.

Godlesswanderer · #34 12-16-2005, 10:13 AM

I dont know about you but I've never heard of a children's book saving a life...

big bro boogie · #35 12-16-2005, 10:25 AM

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I dont know about you but I've never heard of a children's book saving a life...

Childrens books? Wha?
Those books were directed to children to Prevent them going into gangs. And because of that there are (considerably) less gangs, which could kill people.

Godlesswanderer · #36 12-16-2005, 10:50 AM

Ah right, seems was told wrong. I was told that he wrote books for children (as in childrens books). Also, I didn't read any of the thread before so... meh.

DanTheDamnManDan · #37 12-16-2005, 12:38 PM

I wouldn't say there are *considerably* less gangs.... There might be a couple less gang members.... But really, who's life gets changed by a book when you're that young? One book vs. thousands of other causes of someone turning into a gang member.

Coolmanbizkit · #38 12-16-2005, 01:49 PM

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I wouldn't say there are *considerably* less gangs.... There might be a couple less gang members.... But really, who's life gets changed by a book when you're that young? One book vs. thousands of other causes of someone turning into a gang member.

Yeah, But still. You never know how many kids that now wont be in gangs and kill people...

Cullen Heath · #39 12-16-2005, 02:13 PM

And this is why I think he should not have been given the death penalty. If he could have been given life prison instead, he would have been able to write more and more books, thus saving more and more lives.

used:) · #40 12-16-2005, 02:20 PM

Cullen, try and think empathetically for once.

Prison is not the most comforting of places. And you cannot expect someone to just keep writing. Even someone like Tookie would know there is so much more in life.There is no proof he would have just kept writing books anyhow.

Cullen Heath · #41 12-16-2005, 02:28 PM

Ummm...... yah there is actually: HE SAID HE WANTED TOO!
I think anyone (unless you are really stupid) would rather go to prison and help people there rather than being killed.
I did a current event (Its a 1 page report we have to do every week about something currently going on) about this, so dont think I dont know anything about this! He said that he wanted to go to prison instead of the death penalty.

Leto · #42 12-16-2005, 04:58 PM

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Ummm...... yah there is actually: HE SAID HE WANTED TOO!

People can decieve, you know. Metaphoricall speaking, if I was charged for murder and was put in prison, would you let me out if I said 'I wouldn't want to do it again'?

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I think anyone (unless you are really stupid) would rather go to prison and help people there rather than being killed.

You'd be surprised, infidel. Would you prefer go to prison and die there in twenty years or would you prefer to die now and get it over with?

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used:) · #43 12-16-2005, 05:01 PM

Not to mention the constant ass rape by barred up slugs, what with the "SOAP DROPPED, BITCH!." Also the aggravating labor and horrible living conditions.

There are things far worse than death.

He did what he did in childrens books not out of enjoyment of writing but most likely out of regret for himself and the desire to end this tragedy in the US.

***Nate*** · #44 12-16-2005, 07:41 PM

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You'd be surprised, infidel. Would you prefer go to prison and die there in twenty years or would you prefer to die now and get it over with?

What Cullen would prefer is irrelevant in this case. What is relevant is that Tookie did say he would prefer to live and write more in the hope that he could take further steps towards making up for his wrongdoing. Dead, he's no use to anyone.

AquaticAmbi · #45 12-17-2005, 07:07 AM

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Not to mention the constant ass rape by barred up slugs, what with the "SOAP DROPPED, BITCH!."

Hah, if there was any ass raping going on, he would have been the rapist as he was huge and had scary muscles.

Anyway, I still think the idea of pardoning (giving forgiveness for the murders and other crimes) is ridiculous. Life in prison would have been the best choice, I believe, because he was of some use to society and I'm generally against the death penalty. Wheehoo.

Leto · #46 12-17-2005, 01:59 PM

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What Cullen would prefer is irrelevant in this case. What is relevant is that Tookie did say he would prefer to live and write more in the hope that he could take further steps towards making up for his wrongdoing. Dead, he's no use to anyone.

I'm not specifically talking about Tookie here, I am just saying that either way you'll die eventually. It's all up there in my post.

Cullen Heath · #47 12-17-2005, 04:36 PM

Well I would rather die in prison then die right there on the spot. I want to live as long as I can. I want to enjoy life. Man. Its short so I would much rather spend the rest of it in a cell rather that just giving up.

used:) · #48 12-17-2005, 04:39 PM

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I want to enjoy life.

In a cell with ass raping brutes? Nice optmism, but I can hardly see how you can get happiness out of jail time.

Deah isn't necessarily giving up, I prefer to think of it as the ultimate orgasm of life.

Cullen Heath · #49 12-17-2005, 04:48 PM

OK, well yes I WOULD rather spend time in a cell with big brutes who say:
"Well you dropped the soap! I thought you wanted it!"

Yes.... Yes I would if my only other choice was giving up my life.