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I could be totally wring as I'm not used to using stuff like pigpen but the runes at the top of the images say "zwiuc" and "ormsrcdifrzfrrzh".
I must have done something wrong.
Edit; So I tired again and I can't seem to get anything but random letters.
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As Matt posted above - that the password was actually HIIDHEED, here's the other file that we didn't have:

EDIT: It's a repeating string, with slashes in it. All of them are names of moons (all of which I think of planets (including dwarfs) in our solar system.
The characters after each slash (THANKS DIZMA) came out to say
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useSsuitePicselSecuritySaveus
Using the steg function of SSuite Picsel Security, comparing the original HD image and vital.png gave the string
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BmzPmbtzueMfxmeBdayqftqgeBmzpadmQbuyqftqgeVmzgeMqsmqazYuymeYqftazqMzftqBmxxqzqQzoqxmpgeFqftkeFqxqefaOmxkbeaPuazqTqxqzqBaxkpqgoqeDtqmFufmzTkbqduazUmbqfgeWuhugcUvudmcBtaqnqBmmxumcEwmftuMxnuadujNqntuazzQddumbaEwaxxEumdzmcFmdcqcSdqubTkddawwuzVmdzemjmFmdhaeYgzpuxrmduNqdsqxyudZmdhuEgffgzsdTmfuRmdnmgfuFtdkydMqsudNqefxmEgdfgdWmduKyudXasqRadzvaf
When shifted with ROT-14 (THANKS MATT) gave us the string
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PanDaphnisAtlasPrometheusPandoraEpimetheusJanusAegaeonMimasMethoneAnthePalleneEnceladusTethysTelestoCalypsoDioneHelenePolydeucesRheaTitanHyperionIapetusKiviuqIjiraqPhoebePaaliaqSkathiAlbiorixBebhionnErriapoSkollSiarnaqTarqeqGreipHyrrokkinJarnsaxaTarvosMundilfariBergelmirNarviSuttungrHatiFarbautiThrymrAegirBestlaSurturKariYmirLogeFornjot
So what next?
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Thanks for sharing artemisbot

Now I'm really wondering why the password is HIIDHEED instead of HIIBHEED...
HIIBHEED was literally the first thing I tried as password

EDIT: Holy shit that was clever, thanks for sharing this with us

EDIT2: Wiki is now up to date:
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EDIT2: Wiki is now up to date
Damn! Just beat me to it.

The string we got all includes names of moons from toollist.txt, except Erriapo - which is a real moon. We tried to find the index of each of the moons in the decrypted string in the context of toollist, but this gave nothing of interest
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The password is HIBHEED in caps!? I knew it had to be something obvious we missed! Still it was fun trying to figure out a bunch of ways to interpret the numbers, may even come in handy for another clue later on. Will probably look at these images when I get some time later. You guys will probably have the whole thing figured by then lol
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The password is HIBHEED in caps!?
Nope, it was HIIDHEED, which makes literally no sense at all.
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Damn! Just beat me to it.

The string we got all includes names of moons from toollist.txt, except Erriapo - which is a real moon. We tried to find the index of each of the moons in the decrypted string in the context of toollist, but this gave nothing of interest
From a quick look to the list they all seem Saturn's moons. Erriapus which is the one missing from toollist.txt is also a Saturn's moon.
toollist.txt contained also other planets moons (i.e. Europe->Jupiter, Amalthea -> Jupiter)

Also, clearly enough, in toollist.txt all moons are in alpahabetical order.

Just another thing don't know if this can fit: Saturn's equivalent in Greek mithology is Chrono, father of Zeus (Jupiter) who was "famous" for eating his own children.
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Is anyone else unable to open the image files? When I put in the password it comes up saying "Windows Photo Viewer couldn't open this picture because the file appears to be damaged, corrupted or is too large".
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Also, clearly enough, in toollist.txt all moons are in alpahabetical order.
They weren't actually, since each repeat ended with
:
NamakaHiiakaDysnomia
but that was my first thought too!

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Is anyone else unable to open the image files? When I put in the password it comes up saying "Windows Photo Viewer couldn't open this picture because the file appears to be damaged, corrupted or is too large".
I'd recommend unzipping the entire file first with Winzip/Winrar/7Zip before you open the file. It tends to be very unreliable!
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They weren't actually, since each repeat ended with
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NamakaHiiakaDysnomia
but that was my first thought too!


I'd recommend unzipping the entire file first with Winzip/Winrar/7Zip before you open the file. It tends to be very unreliable!
Oh right. And they all are moons of dwarf planets Eris, Makemake and Sedna. Also Charon, one of Pluto's moons, another dwarf planet, is not there.
I don't know if this is on purpose or nut but surely is peculiar.

-> EDIT: False It is there! So no peculiarity except for all in alphabetical order except the ones after Ymir: DeimosPhobosCharonNixHydraNamakaHiiakaDysnomia

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Great job everyone what a treat to wake up to!
Sweet job on the flyers, Matt
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Does anyone know what this symbol is? I've played every Oddworld game and don't recall seeing it ever(though it might just be because it's been awhile so maybe I just don't remember it). Also all the symbols in this picture have numbers next to them, maybe indicating chronological order? if the symbols are part of a cipher that is.
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Does anyone know what this symbol is? I've played every Oddworld game and don't recall seeing it ever(though it might just be because it's been awhile so maybe I just don't remember it). Also all the symbols in this picture have numbers next to them, maybe indicating chronological order? if the symbols are part of a cipher that is.
It is supposed to be the magog cartel logo although it never appeared in "official" media.
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Vizma on the GameDetectives Discord translated all of the pigpen ciphers from mattb's cleaned up flyers -
flyer1.png:
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AOCXY SIO --ROT-6--> GUIDE YOU
flyer2.png:
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FYNNBYNBCHANBUNM --ROT-6--> LETTHETHINGTHATS
flyer3.png:
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GCMMCHA --ROT-6--> MISSING
These can be joined together to give the string
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LET THE THING THAT'S MISSING GUIDE YOU
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Ok brb, quickly going to Erriapo then.


EDIT: Nah, there's nothing there...

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So what's missing then?
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Well we still need to figure out what those symbols with red writing next to it mean, maybe what's missing will be obvious when we crack that code.

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I swear I have seen those symbols with the red writing next to them somewhere before -- This is infuriating hahah
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Could it be the Malachim alphabet?



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Could it be the Malachim alphabet?



http://members.tripod.com/pagan_path-ivil/id82.html

That's gotta be it!!

EDIT: I've found two keys for the malachim runes, but they vary very slightly with which rune means what letter.....

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Hey, on the flyers there are also x's and o's that seem to have a pattern to them. I'm just guessing right now while I look at all of this, but it seems like they could possibly be resembling morse code? It could be something else, I'm still looking to see if I'm missing something, and it might not even be important, but there's just enough of it there that I figure it can't hurt to look at it anyway and see.

(Sorry for no attempts at translation yet, I just wanted to get this out before I forgot.)
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Hey, on the flyers there are also x's and o's that seem to have a pattern to them. I'm just guessing right now while I look at all of this, but it seems like they could possibly be resembling morse code? It could be something else, I'm still looking to see if I'm missing something, and it might not even be important, but there's just enough of it there that I figure it can't hurt to look at it anyway and see.

(Sorry for no attempts at translation yet, I just wanted to get this out before I forgot.)
We haven't figured out those yet, could indeed be morse code.

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The symbols translated
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Hey, on the flyers there are also x's and o's that seem to have a pattern to them. I'm just guessing right now while I look at all of this, but it seems like they could possibly be resembling morse code? It could be something else, I'm still looking to see if I'm missing something, and it might not even be important, but there's just enough of it there that I figure it can't hurt to look at it anyway and see.

(Sorry for no attempts at translation yet, I just wanted to get this out before I forgot.)
Pilou of GameDetectives confirmed this:

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the xoxo as morse (x dash, o dot) give :
t h e y a r e w a t c h i n g
b e t h e s t or m
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The symbols translated
https://imgur.com/gallery/mwGQP
Here's a little guide from the malachim symbols I've been using for the other flyers

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The symbols translated
https://imgur.com/gallery/mwGQP
So from top to bottom
A, 52
U or V (number cut off)
R, number ending in 1 ( rest of number cut off)
R (number cutoff)
I or J, 1
O or Q, 18 or 12? (not sure which)
R, 28
I or J (number ending in 1)
G, 6
R, 28
O or Q, 12
D (number cut off)

Notice the repeats we can fill in some blanks from this (i think I got it all down)

I've got to head out, hope this may have helped. Bye for now

Edit: oh and from the other flyer 1 you can find missing numbers as well
Edit Ah v
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I'm also getting from this image, which should be flyer 1, malachim symbols that line up like this, from left to right, top to bottom:

7 | 12 | 16 | 8 | 17 | 4 | 4 | 31 | 31 | 36 | 7 | 31 | 8 | 52 | 36
U/V O/Q S D K L L I/J I/J R U/V I/J D A R

Sure hope this lines up correctly, but in case it doesn't, well. Have fun!!

EDIT: Well that sure didn't line up. Hold on. Attached a image that should show it better instead.
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The P letter was missing:




Hmmm no luck:

E r r i a p u s
12 36 36 31 52 22 7 16

E r r i a p o
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HOLY SHIT I FOUND SOMETHING


http://www.1029.io/repository/asset99/12362831522212/

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SWEET!!! Nice one!!

Are we all getting different pictures when we click the link again??

EDIT: These are the pictures I've got so far, called WET, YOU, WHA

http://imgur.com/gallery/mdhev

I'd imagine there's a photo with the word "OBEY" written on it to find too

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