Are Mudokons Communist? -

***Wil*** · #31 10-12-2010, 09:23 AM

I think the political message behind Oddworld is more about changing our individual and societal priorities rather than advocating any particular models of governance, law or economics.

STM · #32 10-12-2010, 09:42 AM

I agree, I feel that Lorne did not want to integrate political warfare into his story line, besides tribal governments rarely veer towards a communist regime anyway. Any lose government, certainly in human nature, is geared towards a right winged one, this is because, naturally, a tribal leader will want to stay powerful and will tax his peasants or employ some means of taking amounts of what his labourers work to produce. This could be what the mudokons mimic, of course on the other hand we have never seen a greedy mudokon leaving the possbility that they have a perfect communist regeme in place. Maybe a Tito styled anti-opression communism?

Jango · #33 10-21-2010, 09:31 AM

Yeah, I don't think that they intended for there to be any kind of political message or points when they made Oddworld. Politics in its pure form just doesn't seem to be anything to do with it at all.

Andrelvis · #34 10-26-2010, 02:27 PM

Anti-capitalist =/= communist.

Also, Mudokons can't be communists because communism claims to be post-capitalist, while Mudokons explicitly want to go back to a pre-capitalist way of life.

Andrelvis · #35 10-26-2010, 02:29 PM

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Yeah, I don't think that they intended for there to be any kind of political message or points when they made Oddworld. Politics in its pure form just doesn't seem to be anything to do with it at all.

Oddworld is extremely political. It is a critique of capitalism in game form.

***Nate*** · #36 10-26-2010, 04:32 PM

Andrelvis, please don't double post. Use the Edit button, or the multiquote tool.

In any case, Lorne and Oddworld are not anti-capitalist either. Why would they sell their games for cash if they were?

enchilado · #37 10-26-2010, 07:55 PM

To capitalise on them, duh.

Hazel-Rah · #38 10-26-2010, 08:15 PM

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In any case, Lorne and Oddworld are not anti-capitalist either. Why would they sell their games for cash if they were?

Because you have to violate your beliefs once in a while for survival?

Andrelvis · #39 10-27-2010, 02:12 AM

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Andrelvis, please don't double post. Use the Edit button, or the multiquote tool.

In any case, Lorne and Oddworld are not anti-capitalist either. Why would they sell their games for cash if they were?

Because I suppose they are not against capitalism per se, but capitalism in it's more savage forms, being unrestricted, destroying forests, and etc.

enchilado · #40 10-27-2010, 02:27 AM

Is that what capitalism is?

Well I'll be.

***Wil*** · #41 10-27-2010, 02:35 AM

Oddworld isn't anti-capitalism, anti-consumerism or anti-corporatism. It's anti-the-bad-practices-that-lead-to-much-damage-to-the-environment-people-and-society.

GlukkonGluk · #42 10-27-2010, 02:25 PM

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It's anti-the-bad-practices-that-lead-to-much-damage-to-the-environment-people-and-society.

Max is right. That is, Max is always right, of course

but I mean, one of the central themes of the Oddworld games is always environmental issues that reflect, in a twisted, warped way, a mirror image of our own society, and what we may be headed for. Prophetic, I dare say. A glimpse into the future. It's like a sad clown. Or something.

ziggy · #43 10-28-2010, 03:54 PM

I think it's not real.