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03-14-2017, 01:19 PM
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Well, Sister is in the computer now (borrowing in her time to see new developments and)
I CALLED IT!
I WAS RIGHT! HA!...
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Well, you all agreed with me... but i am happy none-the-less!

Well, i just feel stupid not to figure out alone!
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It's a popular meme
But alright sorry.
I'm sorry, I might have been a bit too harsh on you there.

I was shown the knowyourmeme page and now see what you did there.

But please let's keep this thread clean and focused on the ARG investigation

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Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

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Tried to make it better



also This was used last time right?:
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https://twitter.com/SPIRITOF1029/sta...41119012261889

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Just posted the link from Spirit of 1029 apparently they said "you have all you need Follow the numbers Find the Truth so now what?
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I don't know if people already cracked the code and i'm WAY behind, but was trying to decipher this and... woah, i think there is more than one language and its giving me a headache XD
where is the guy that deciphered the Photo3 Code?

Edit: Wait... last time it was backwards right? AHHHHH, Back again
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Insane Mudokons as well as blind, sick, happy, sad and angry.. I bet these ones are going to be able to lash out and kill you in this game.
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Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

The alphabet OrangeLightning used is attached to this post: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=255

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First, no need to feel bad, i moderate another site and i know, that if sometimes you don't do something slowly all hell breaks loose.

Secondly, the alphabets doesn't seem to match. The first rune could be an N, but then the second one? Maybe characters from the other alphabets must be used.
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Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

Where did you find this? We could try a frequency attack on it, but I'm kind of rusty.

Actually never mind, a frequency attack is impossible on this, looks more like an alphabet.
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I'm updating as I go along but using the blind alphabets masterpost above I'm coming up with the following:

=NORMAL=

N? ? ?? WS?????? S?? ??? ???? ?????

=FLIPPED=

?N?R? KL?C ??M ??? ?????K?? ?? ? ??


I'll edit as I go along but I'm at work so I can only really work it out intermittently. If anyone wants to take over please do so!
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Where did you find this? We could try a frequency attack on it, but I'm kind of rusty.

Actually never mind, a frequency attack is impossible on this, looks more like an alphabet.
Oh! here is where it comes from, it's from the new teaser (it's on for literally ONE frame):
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Oh! here is where it comes from, it's from the new teaser (it's on for literally ONE frame):
I'll be damned, I check the entire clip frame by frame, especially the zoom/pans which looked quite suspicious, didn't see it. at all. I'll see if I can enhance it.
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I'll be damned, I check the entire clip frame by frame, especially the zoom/pans which looked quite suspicious, didn't see it. at all. I'll see if I can enhance it.
I'm aways happy to help with stuff XD i can't solve puzzles, but damn if i can't find secrets! >
i saw the clip frame by frame, i only saw this and some squares at the end...
(and many "old film" disturbances)
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I'm aways happy to help with stuff XD i can't solve puzzles, but damn if i can't find secrets! >
i saw the clip frame by frame, i only saw this and some squares at the end...
(and many "old film" disturbances)
I must have passed by that frame alone 2-3 times last night, didn't see it. Same today, tried again, nothing. Frame by frame, my eye just wouldn't notice it, go figure. Anyway…


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I've been trying to enhance it as best I could, I've tried some frequency separation, noise removal, and then manually traced it with a brush. Coloured grey the areas I'm not too sure about, but this seems about right.

It's strange though, I keep getting the feeling that if we cut it in half and/or mirror it it will match something. It's like I know at least half those glyphs, but I can't figure where from.
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Here's what I have so far.


Hi guys! Newcomer here to the forums and ARG'ing. I've put the glyphs and tried to translate them as best as I could and from what I've seen I'm guessing that there's a message we have to decypher once more...

NJ ??D WSQWCDIB SNJ YWU GD PQMZDIB

Unfortunately I had some difficulty trying to figure out what some symbols meant. Since I couldn't find the glyphs for Z and J, I used two of the glyphs I found in the new message and made them stand for J and Z (but since I don't know if they're the real translations they can be interchangable).

I tried to mirror the glyphs to see if it needed to be flipped the right way around but it only seems to have made things worse. However because of the way the glyphs are the message did change but a lot of it is missing translation.
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I must have passed by that frame alone 2-3 times last night, didn't see it. Same today, tried again, nothing. Frame by frame, my eye just wouldn't notice it, go figure. Anyway…


Full version available…


I've been trying to enhance it as best I could, I've tried some frequency separation, noise removal, and then manually traced it with a brush. Coloured grey the areas I'm not too sure about, but this seems about right.

It's strange though, I keep getting the feeling that if we cut it in half and/or mirror it it will match something. It's like I know at least half those glyphs, but I can't figure where from.
Well... OddWorld is getting sneakier
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Wait... so it's a cipher that translate to a cipher?
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I used OrangeLightning's alphabet, but I had no luck:

Original: NM ??? WS?OCDI? SNM ??? G?T????S
Flipped: ??????K? ?C ??? OI? HN?GMK?? ??? DI
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Supposing it's a substitution cipher, and supposing the alphabet follows the same rules of the previous iteration, I started working on a reduction of the problem, shown here:



It assumes that the flat position is the first, and that the glyphs rotate 45° for every letter. So, "in theory", finding those 4-5 key letters should give us the alphabet to decrypt it all.

Pardon the rough mouse drawings, trying to update you guys as I go…

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Hey, I am new here!
Just found two more codes in the clip.
See you in a few minutes
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Mind sharing it with us please? Maybe we will have more luck with those.
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here are the codes I found. I'll try to clear them up a bit!



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--. -.. .--. --.- --- .--- / --.- -.- / --.- -.-. --- / -... -.-. -.- --. --.- .--. / -.. --- / --.- -.- --- / --- - -

GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKGQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Unless I'm mistaken.

I'm starting to wonder if they're red herrings.
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Awesome man, nice job!

The Morse code reads: GDPQOJ QK QCO BCKGQP DO QKO OTT
I assume this needs to be deciphered.
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Wow, more codes than i thought! ;D and i analyzed it so cautiously! happy to see more codes!
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GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKGQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Unless I'm mistaken.

I'm starting to wonder if they're red herrings.
I don't think they would do this... it seems weird for them, have they done this before? don't match their MO
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I don't think they would do this... it seems weird for them, have they done this before? don't match their MO
No idea, I'm quite new.

By the way, the other screenshot looks like pigpen, and I still have no idea about the first substitution algo… let's see if some dinner will help the thinking :P
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Ok the Morse isn't Caesar-cipher. I cycled trough all the possible shifts.
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